18:30:38 <rbergeron> #startmeeting Fedora Board IRC Meeting 18:30:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 30 18:30:38 2012 UTC. The chair is rbergeron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:30:38 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:30:44 <rbergeron> #meetingname Fedora Board IRC Meeting 18:30:44 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_board_irc_meeting' 18:30:52 <rbergeron> #topic Who's around? 18:30:56 <gholms> Hello, world! 18:31:20 <rdieter> hola 18:31:44 <rbergeron> #info rbergeron, gholms, pbrobinson, rdieter present 18:31:50 * jreznik is here, hey all! 18:31:55 <rbergeron> #info jreznik present 18:32:06 <rbergeron> #chair gholms pbrobinson rdieter jreznik 18:32:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: gholms jreznik pbrobinson rbergeron rdieter 18:32:56 <rbergeron> okay, i'll hang for a minute before I dive into other things 18:33:08 * jreznik was afraid he's the invisible goody 18:33:14 <jreznik> ghost 18:33:24 <gholms> Hooray for auto-correct! 18:33:24 <rbergeron> #info cwickert, ke4qqq absent (travel) (also, happy birthday cwickert) 18:33:30 <rbergeron> jreznik: ;) 18:33:55 <rbergeron> #info jds2001 present 18:34:04 <rbergeron> #chair jds2001 18:34:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: gholms jds2001 jreznik pbrobinson rbergeron rdieter 18:34:15 <rbergeron> #topic Agenda 18:34:37 <jds2001> sorry, i didnt realize my irc client hosting machine rebooted for some reason 18:35:10 <rbergeron> #info A few things on agenda today: Announcements, Open Floor / Open Q & A, Discussion on release naming, Tickets (board as single point of failure), Any other business I forgot about. :) 18:35:31 <rbergeron> And with that, I'll just dive into the super-quick-announcements portion. 18:35:35 <rbergeron> jds2001: no worries :) 18:35:39 <rbergeron> #topic Announcements 18:36:34 <rbergeron> #info Townhalls for elections are ongoing, including one not long after board meeting (20:00 UTC) 18:36:42 <rbergeron> #info See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections for details 18:37:17 <rbergeron> #info Also: Voting for elections begins on June 1st, and ends June 7th at 23:59:59pm UTC 18:37:34 <rbergeron> #info This is Board, FAmSCo, and FESCo elections. 18:37:46 <rbergeron> Let's see. Anything else interesting or "beefy" to announce? 18:37:46 <rbergeron> :) 18:38:03 <jds2001> well, we released yesterday! 18:38:05 <jds2001> yay!Q 18:38:09 <gholms> \o/ 18:38:14 <jreznik> wooohooo! 18:39:04 <rbergeron> #info Fedora 17 has been released. He's Beefy! He's Miraculous! Beefy Miracle is downloadable now: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora 18:39:23 <rbergeron> Anyone else with announcements? 18:39:28 <jreznik> hot dogs already ordered for our release party 18:39:36 <jreznik> ;-) 18:39:39 <rbergeron> jreznik: excellent 18:39:47 <jds2001> jreznik: you providing plane tickets from the US? :D 18:39:57 <mrunge_> any plans for releases on secondary arches? 18:40:04 <rdieter> jds2001: might take a miracle 18:40:30 <rdieter> mrunge_: ask the secondary arch teams, they'd be the ones in the know 18:40:32 <jreznik> ;-) 18:40:57 <rdieter> mrunge_: which one(s) in particular is of interest to you? 18:41:17 <rdieter> in general, try poking #fedora-<arch> 18:41:21 <mrunge_> Oh, I thought they should announce, if there's something to announce 18:41:34 <rbergeron> mrunge: the ARM folks had their F17 beta last week; i'm sure they will make more noise as needed :) 18:41:37 <pbrobinson> there will be a release for ARM at some point in the not too distant future 18:41:49 <jreznik> nice 18:41:51 <mrunge_> great to hear pbrobinson! 18:42:03 <pbrobinson> and we'll shout it from the roof tops you can be sure of that ;-) 18:42:23 <rbergeron> okay, shall we move to Open Floor? :) 18:42:43 <mrunge_> I'll shut up. thanks! 18:43:11 <rbergeron> hey, comments are welcomed around here :) 18:43:22 <rbergeron> #topic Open Q & A / Open Floor 18:43:27 <jsmith> ! 18:43:33 <rbergeron> #info Have burning questions? Ask them now! 18:43:35 <rbergeron> jsmith: yes 18:43:48 <jsmith> I just want to say congrats to rbergeron and the rest of the Fedora leadership team on a great F17 release 18:44:06 * gholms concurs 18:44:09 <jsmith> EOF 18:44:15 * pbrobinson seconds jsmith 18:44:36 <rbergeron> thanks ;) 18:45:03 * rbergeron is pretty sure the thanks should go to everyone else :) everyone did a fabulous job. 18:45:37 <rbergeron> "it was a beefy release" 18:45:49 <rbergeron> Anyone else? I'll hang out for a bit and see if anyone has questions, comments, etc. 18:46:40 <gholms> All this talk of beef makes me want burritos. :-| 18:46:48 <rbergeron> awww. 18:46:59 <jds2001> gholms: go find the nearest chipotle :D 18:47:02 <rbergeron> A delicious eucalyptus-scented burrito. 18:47:14 <gholms> jds2001: Good idea! After the meeting. 18:47:18 <gholms> rbergeron: And yuck. 18:47:50 <pbrobinson> gholms: I'm about to light up the BBQ for dinner :) 18:47:55 <rbergeron> jds2001: thanks for volunteering to wrangle the townhall. (and thanks to everyone else who has done so as well!) 18:48:05 <rbergeron> pbrobinson: hot dogs? 18:48:38 <jds2001> rbergeron: np :) 18:48:43 <pbrobinson> rbergeron: well sausages minus buns as I forgot those, plus a number of other bits :) 18:49:01 <rbergeron> pbrobinson: LOL. poor beefy. 18:49:25 <pbrobinson> rbergeron: eucalyptus-scented burrito? Is that a real thing? 18:49:36 <rbergeron> pbrobinson: only if you work at eucalyptus 18:49:48 <gholms> eucalyptus is a smelly, messy tree. 18:49:48 <rbergeron> pbrobinson: so gholms, obino, mull, gregdek might know. :) 18:49:57 <gholms> And they suck up all the water. 18:50:02 <gholms> And they explode when they catch fire. 18:50:16 <rbergeron> okay, i'm going to ... move onwards, and if anyone has Q&A stuff then we can catch it at the end. 18:50:20 <gholms> Good idea. 18:50:20 <rbergeron> is that kosher? :) 18:50:32 <pbrobinson> gholms: it depends of the type, there's 100s of them :) 18:50:43 <gholms> pbrobinson: :) 18:51:14 <rbergeron> okay! 18:51:24 <rbergeron> #topic Release Naming 18:51:47 * gomix show's up late, apologies... 18:52:09 <rbergeron> jreznik: I recall from my haze of the past 2 weeks that perhaps you were going to take the lead on poking at people to get this moving or discussion / consensus happening 18:52:27 <rbergeron> unless i'm crazy :) 18:53:17 * pbrobinson vaguely remembers rbergeron's recollection being correct 18:53:19 <jreznik> rbergeron, I was out the whole week, so sorry 18:53:39 <rbergeron> jreznik: no worries. do you want to go poking at it now / still? :) 18:53:42 <jreznik> but tmrw I'll start poking 18:53:52 <rbergeron> #action jreznik to start poking at the release naming stuff 18:54:39 <jreznik> i'll try to use whenisgood to find time for meeting, we have to start somehow 18:54:43 <rbergeron> okay then. :) 18:54:43 <rbergeron> yeah. 18:55:18 <rbergeron> alrighty. 18:55:37 <gregdek> gholms: way to pitch the product! "smelly, sucks up resources, will sometimes explode." 18:55:58 <jds2001> gregdek: :D 18:56:02 <gholms> gregdek: The tree is no longer part of the branding, so I can now complain about it again. :) 18:56:07 <rbergeron> kind of like gregdek, really :) 18:56:16 * rbergeron hugs gregdek and is totally kidding 18:56:21 <gregdek> Ah, right. A Eucalyptus is not a tree, and a Fedora is not a hat. 18:56:32 <gregdek> rbergeron: :P 18:56:38 <gholms> Hooray for marketing! 18:56:45 <gregdek> LOL 18:56:47 <jreznik> lol 18:56:47 <rbergeron> gregdek: open door, had to walk through it, sorry :) 18:56:56 * gregdek glares at rbergeron. 18:57:08 <rbergeron> gregdek: if eucalyptus burritos aren't your thing, we will have hot dogs at SELF. And stickers. 18:57:29 <gregdek> STICKERS!!!! 18:57:37 <rbergeron> or you can punish me later. :p 18:57:40 <rbergeron> MOving onwards. 18:57:43 <rbergeron> abadger1999: are you about? 18:59:06 <rbergeron> okay, perhaps we'll come back to the SPOF thing. 18:59:25 <pbrobinson> /me is still waiting for stickers from rbergeron and hopes he doesn't miss out! 18:59:48 <rbergeron> #topic Clarification on Localization of spins 19:00:15 <rbergeron> #info Ticket 136, for the record 19:00:20 <abadger1999> rbergeron: I am here 19:00:27 <rbergeron> pbrobinson: I know you said you'd get with cwickert when he got back. 19:00:34 * abadger1999 day late and a dollar short as usual :-) 19:00:39 <rbergeron> to work this on the spins list within the spins sig. :) 19:00:57 <rbergeron> pbrobinson: so I guess this is just friendly reminder, I know cwickert is out today 19:01:06 <pbrobinson> rbergeron: I dropped cwickert an email and I've not had a response yet 19:01:08 <rbergeron> abadger1999: ah, awesomes. 19:01:18 <rbergeron> pbrobinson: yeah, he's like, travellin' man. 19:01:23 <jreznik> he was really buddy 19:01:27 <jreznik> busy 19:01:36 <jds2001> he's really buddy, too :D 19:01:39 <rbergeron> hot dogs at linuxtag :) 19:01:40 <jreznik> ah, autocorrection 19:01:41 <rbergeron> yes he is! 19:01:53 <pbrobinson> yea, which was why I dropped him a mail and figured when he got a moment he would respond 19:01:54 <jreznik> kuala lumpur... 19:02:45 * rbergeron nods 19:02:46 * pbrobinson waves to gregdek 19:02:55 <rbergeron> okay, so back to abadger1999 19:02:57 <jreznik> i'll ping him later today 19:02:59 <rbergeron> #topic Board as SPOF 19:03:11 <gregdek> pbrobinson: hey man :) 19:03:14 <jreznik> he should be on amb. meeting 19:03:19 <abadger1999> There's a new draft -- I think I got all the changes people requested two meetings ago 19:03:56 <abadger1999> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Board_single_point_of_failure 19:04:14 <abadger1999> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AToshio%2FBoard_single_point_of_failure&action=historysubmit&diff=289236&oldid=287069 19:05:32 <zodbot> Announcement from my owner (nirik): Fedora Town Hall at 20:00 UTC (4pm US-Eastern) with the Fedora Board candidates. Visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#IRC_Town_Halls for information on how to participate and pose questions to the candidates 19:05:50 <rbergeron> abadger1999: I think it looks way better. I do wonder what other non-board-peeps think. 19:06:44 <jreznik> it's poetry 19:06:58 <jreznik> I like it 19:07:00 <rdieter> full of win 19:07:07 * jds2001 likes too 19:07:17 <jds2001> any non-board peeps around? 19:07:39 * inode0 will read it but can't right now 19:07:53 * mrunge_ is currently digging through that document 19:09:17 <rbergeron> abadger1999: I think it looks lovely. I know we're dragging this out but do we want to wait a few days post-meeting for feedback? Or are we cool with it? 19:09:23 <mrunge_> ok, I like that proposal! 19:09:32 * abadger1999 has no preference. 19:09:46 <abadger1999> If it's approved and found lacking it can be fixed. 19:09:49 <rdieter> imo, let's adopt/ratify it. if there's further tweaking to be done later, so be it 19:09:58 * gomix i like it too ! 19:10:05 <inode0> everyone likes it :) 19:10:12 <abadger1999> heh :-) 19:10:13 <rbergeron> okay, seeking proposals: rdieter, wanna do it? :) 19:11:15 <rdieter> ok, I propose to formally adopt that document for board decision-making 19:11:26 <rbergeron> +1 19:11:31 <abadger1999> +1 19:11:32 <rdieter> +1 19:11:34 <gholms> +1 19:11:34 <pbrobinson> +1 19:11:35 <jds2001> +1 19:11:46 <gomix> +1 19:12:06 <pbrobinson> 8 up, I think that's quorum :) 19:12:10 <rbergeron> is that everyone here? jreznik? 19:12:58 <rbergeron> #agreed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Board_single_point_of_failure is adopted for board decision-making 19:13:25 <rbergeron> abadger1999: did you want to move that out of your userspace, or would you like someone else to do so? :) 19:13:46 <abadger1999> I can do it. where would we like to link it from? 19:14:29 <rbergeron> Ummmmmmm. 19:14:30 <rdieter> Category:Board for starters, we can add more later I suppose 19:15:12 <gomix> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board ? 19:15:14 <rbergeron> it might get interwoven with http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board#Keeping_track_of_open_issues as well 19:15:22 <rdieter> +1 19:16:12 <abadger1999> Okay, I'll get that linked in and moved into place. 19:16:43 <rbergeron> #action abadger1999 to move SPOF into board-space on wiki 19:16:52 <rbergeron> okay! :) 19:16:53 <gholms> Thanks! 19:17:03 <rbergeron> woooo 19:17:29 <rbergeron> okay, moving onwards then 19:17:43 <rbergeron> #topic More Open Floor / Q&A / Other Business 19:17:51 <rbergeron> Okay, so... back to if anyone has questions, etc. 19:17:52 <jreznik> oh, sorry +1 19:17:54 <rbergeron> Or if I forgot anything. 19:18:31 <jreznik> for spof 19:19:18 <rbergeron> jreznik: :) 19:19:42 <rbergeron> #info Next IRC Meeting is on.... Wednesday, June 13, 18:30 UTC 19:20:49 <rbergeron> #info This will be post elections, so, a hearty thank-you to our elected folks whose terms are ending, whether or not they are running again :) 19:21:10 <jreznik> thanks guys! 19:21:17 <gomix> +1000 19:21:32 <gholms> Indeed! 19:21:55 <rbergeron> Oh: If any of y'all have made any awesome progress on your goals, would love to hear about it. :) 19:22:34 <jds2001> np, happy to do it :D 19:22:47 * rbergeron holds the fort another minute before ending meeting 19:22:51 <rdieter> wrt goals, I've achieved my initial goal of sponsoring 3 new contributors (packagers). 19:23:17 <abadger1999> yay! 19:23:18 <gholms> \o/ 19:23:26 <rdieter> hoping for another 2-3 over the next week or 3 19:23:40 <jreznik> first free of 300! 19:23:40 <rbergeron> rdieter: very nice :) 19:23:51 <mrunge_> rdieter, sounds great 19:25:20 * gomix also mentored a new one ;) from Argentina 19:25:49 <rbergeron> gomix: awesome. 19:26:15 <gomix> thanks abadger1999 for sponsoring alvesadrian ... 19:26:34 <rbergeron> Okay, folks. I'm goign to end meeting; thanks for coming today :) 19:26:57 <rbergeron> #endmeeting