19:02:19 <gholms> #startmeeting Cloud SIG (13 Jul 2012)
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19:02:24 <rbergeron> thank you.
19:02:25 <gholms> #meetingname cloud_sig
19:02:25 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'cloud_sig'
19:02:31 * rbergeron needs to fix that somehow
19:02:33 <gholms> #topic Robot Roll Call
19:02:36 <gholms> Who's here?
19:02:36 * rbergeron 
19:02:43 <gholms> Hello, mah cloudies!
19:02:51 <gholms> #chair rbergeron jforbes
19:02:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: gholms jforbes rbergeron
19:03:01 <kraman1> hi
19:03:09 <rbergeron> hiya
19:03:22 <tdawson> Greetings
19:03:33 <rbergeron> hey mr. dawson
19:03:55 <tdawson> I have to say, I'm impressed at how fast you type on a phone.
19:04:13 <rbergeron> lol
19:04:21 <agrimm> o/
19:04:26 <rbergeron> i've been practising since they had typing pagers
19:04:30 * shaon waves
19:04:35 <rbergeron> well, shall we start?
19:04:50 <rbergeron> i think agenda is looking like openshift and euca status
19:05:01 <rbergeron> hi shaon
19:05:08 <gholms> #topic OpenShift
19:05:13 <gholms> tdawson: Yo.
19:05:14 <shaon> hello rbergeron :)
19:05:39 <rbergeron> tdawson: whats the word?
19:05:39 * gholms needs to step out for a moment
19:05:41 <tdawson> So, although the openshift features page looks scary, this upcomming week is when we start going full bore.
19:05:44 * rbergeron looks for maxamillion
19:05:45 <gholms> rbergeron: The bird is the word.
19:05:47 * gholms runs
19:05:54 <tdawson> We wanted to wait for the features that were comming out in this release.
19:06:08 <tdawson> Which is being released on monday/tuesday.
19:06:14 <rbergeron> verrry nice
19:06:42 <tdawson> We've been working on some spec files so that hopefully we can use the same spec file for F18 as well as RHEL6.
19:07:06 <tdawson> We're hoping they get approved by the ruby guys, because that would make our world a whole lot easier.
19:07:06 <rbergeron> and you guys have about a month to get functional, and more time before you have to be at 100 percent
19:07:18 * rbergeron nods
19:07:31 <tdawson> We also discussed about this "stability" issue.
19:07:58 <tdawson> Our plan is to keep whatever we release for F18, stable, except for security and/or big major bugs.
19:08:15 <tdawson> But as we release at the end of each sprint, we will publish those packages into rawhide.
19:08:48 <tdawson> So if a user does want the new features, they can get them from rawhide.
19:09:22 <rbergeron> very cool
19:09:30 <gholms> That sounds like a great plan.
19:09:31 <tdawson> We've also forked passenger ... we call it ridealong
19:09:41 <gholms> Gave up on upstream?
19:09:54 <gholms> It's too bad, too.  After all that work...  :(
19:10:04 <tdawson> Well, we haven't totally given up, but for now, we have to do what we have to do.
19:10:25 <agrimm> gholms, the rawhide thing _is_ a great plan.  euca should do that.  :)
19:10:39 <gholms> agrimm: Yeeeessss
19:11:11 <tdawson> We still don't have it up on github, but we've made some unofficial rpm packages.
19:12:04 <tdawson> I think that's about it, unless I missed something.
19:12:26 <tdawson> Hopefully by the end of next week we'll have our percetage higher than it currently is.
19:12:53 <rbergeron> thank you :D
19:13:10 * rbergeron will harass abojt a test day further down the road
19:13:45 <tdawson> Ya, it's good to have something to test before getting harassed about it. ;)
19:13:54 <rbergeron> gholms: /me cues you
19:13:56 <gholms> Anyone have questions about OpenShift?
19:13:57 <rbergeron> yup
19:14:33 * gholms takes the silence as a "no"
19:14:46 <gholms> #topic Eucalyptus
19:15:15 <gholms> agrimm, mspaulding: Either of you up for driving this one?
19:15:25 <agrimm> gholms, have you been keeping everybody updated?  I know I've missed a couple of weeks, so I don't know what you've told people
19:15:46 <agrimm> but I can give status as I know it
19:15:51 <gholms> I haven't had much to say because Eucalyptus hadn't planned much until now.
19:15:56 <agrimm> ok.
19:16:12 <agrimm> So, we've submitted Euca as a feature for F18
19:16:27 <agrimm> and mspaulding is now a packager, which is awesome
19:16:40 <mspaulding> yay
19:16:44 <gholms> #info Eucalyptus submitted as a F18 feature
19:16:51 <rbergeron> wooo
19:17:17 <agrimm> we have an upstream issue (and lots of subtasks) for tracking what we're doing:  https://eucalyptus.atlassian.net/browse/EUCA-2578
19:17:49 <agrimm> as well as the ongoing packaging work tracked here:  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eucalyptus
19:18:06 <agrimm> Did the oVirt guys ever make any progress with GWT?
19:18:08 <gholms> #link https://eucalyptus.atlassian.net/browse/EUCA-2578 Eucalyptus upstream issue for Fedora
19:18:19 <rbergeron> agrimm: no clue
19:18:26 <rbergeron> re: gwt
19:18:27 <gholms> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Eucalyptus packaging tracker
19:18:55 <rbergeron> is gwt blocking you guys?
19:19:10 <gholms> The lack thereof will.
19:19:30 <rbergeron> what i mean is
19:19:42 <rbergeron> is someone from ovirt supposed to be doing something
19:20:28 <agrimm> rbergeron, well, I just thought they'd get to it before me
19:20:30 <agrimm> :)
19:20:34 <rbergeron> or can you just do it :D
19:20:34 <rbergeron> ah
19:20:36 <rbergeron> okay
19:20:48 <agrimm> and I am *not* really qualified to fix the problems gwt has
19:20:57 <agrimm> to be completely honest
19:21:03 <mspaulding> agrimm: what kind of problems?
19:21:33 <agrimm> mspaulding, interoperability which eclipse libraries newer than what upstream builds against
19:21:47 <mspaulding> ah
19:22:40 <rbergeron> that sounds.... complicated
19:23:44 <rbergeron> is gwt a total blocker?
19:24:04 <agrimm> no, it only blocks the admin web UI, which isn't _really_ required
19:24:12 <ayoung> Sorry I'm late
19:24:19 <agrimm> we  turned it off in Debian
19:24:43 <agrimm> management is not happy about that, but it's functional
19:24:56 <ayoung> GWT is a mistake IMHO...there, I said it.
19:25:23 <ayoung> So go and rewrite Eucalyptus
19:25:24 * agrimm isn't going to argue with that
19:25:26 <gholms> ayoung: Preaching to the choir here :)
19:25:30 <ayoung> Ha!
19:26:08 <gholms> Anyone have anything else for Eucalyptus?
19:26:11 <ayoung> I know RHQ is using GWT as well
19:26:22 <ayoung> perhaps they have more movement on its packaging?
19:26:32 * rbergeron will see obino tomorrow presumably
19:26:34 <gholms> I'm going to see if I can update euca2ools in rawhide.
19:26:41 <ayoung> As is RHEV-M now that I think about it
19:27:08 <rbergeron> yep, we were just discussing ovirts use
19:27:39 <ayoung> Ah right...
19:28:28 <agrimm> I'll ping people in #fedora-java about it on monday
19:29:11 <agrimm> aside from that, almost all of the packages we need are up for review.  at that point the work is more about making euca work with the version of packages in fedora, and meeting guidelines for things like systemd and selinux
19:30:11 <rbergeron> :D
19:30:46 <rbergeron> no big woop, right?
19:31:00 <agrimm> riiight
19:31:04 <gholms> One way to find out!
19:31:09 * gholms hides
19:32:08 <gholms> Anything else here, or shall we move on?
19:32:17 <agrimm> I'm done for this week
19:32:35 <gholms> #topic Open floor
19:32:39 <rbergeron> i have nothing, unless anyone wants to talk cloud fad
19:32:45 <gholms> Any questions?  Thoughts?
19:32:47 <rbergeron> or zonker has something
19:32:47 <gholms> Tomatoes?
19:32:52 * rbergeron pokes at jzb
19:33:04 <gholms> rbergeron: Any word on getting your computer fixed?
19:33:11 <ayoung> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack_status_report_2012-07-12
19:33:30 <gholms> Thanks, ayoung!
19:33:48 <gholms> Any commentary on that, or does the page speak for itself?
19:33:55 <ayoung> I'm going to talk Keystone at The Boston Group this month
19:34:03 <ayoung> so some shameless self promotion
19:34:10 <gholms> #info ayoung to talk Keystone at The Boston Group this month
19:34:11 <ayoung> Summit went over really well
19:34:18 <ayoung> Let me post a link to the lab
19:34:21 <rbergeron> hoooooray summit
19:35:14 <ayoung> http://fedorapeople.org/~russellb/openstack-lab-rhsummit-2012/
19:35:38 <ayoung> really detailed and well done by Russell and Derek
19:36:19 <ayoung> Openshift and Openstack should probably compare notes regarding Identity Management
19:36:24 <ayoung> Euca too
19:36:59 * gholms bookmarks
19:37:17 <rbergeron> ayoung: how so?
19:37:48 <ayoung> rbergeron, well, if Openstack is going to be able to launch on top of Openstack, or on Euca,  it needs to have a common view of Auth
19:37:49 <ayoung> so
19:38:02 * jzb pokes rbergeron
19:38:14 <rbergeron> openshift?
19:38:20 <ayoung> yeah
19:38:21 <rbergeron> on top of
19:38:23 <rbergeron> okay
19:38:25 <jzb> I got nothin today. Check with me after OSCON :-)
19:38:39 * ayoung is going to start a project named CloudShift just cuz
19:38:43 <rbergeron> jzb: i'll check with you at oscon :D
19:40:06 <rbergeron> ayoung: so maybe that's a mailing list topic?
19:40:13 <tdawson> ayoung: I know of one guy who is looking at openshift on openstack ... I'll ask him about authentication, how compatable they are.
19:40:14 <ayoung> rbergeron, yeas
19:40:21 <gholms> ayoung: I used to have a regular expression on the wall that counted all the open/cloud/stack/shift/nebula things out there. :P
19:41:38 <gholms> Anyone have more stuff to talk about?
19:41:45 * gholms will close in one minute otherwise
19:42:41 <gholms> Thanks for participating, everyone!
19:42:46 <gholms> #endmeeting