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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:02:00 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-09-24/fedora-qa.2012-09-24-15.02.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* roll call  (adamw, 15:02:24)

* previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 15:12:01)
  * "adamw to find out who's writing the release announcement and make
    sure it calls out the biggest Alpha bugs" - this was done
    successfully  (adamw, 15:13:08)
  * "tflink to draft up a freeze entrance requirements proposal for the
    list and we can take the idea from there" - tflink still working on
    quantifying freeze readiness  (adamw, 15:14:24)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/F18_alpha_smoketest1_results
    (tflink, 15:14:41)
  * LINK: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/ <-- not here.. is
    it on the other mirror?  (dan408-, 15:15:39)
  * https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/946 is a ticket related to
    freeze entrance criteria topic  (adamw, 15:17:47)
  * "pschindl to kill 'uncategorized package groups' criterion" -
    pschindl is not around today, but this got done and reported on the
    list  (adamw, 15:19:22)
  * "kparal to refine 'release-blocking package sets' criterion" - this
    is still going on but it looks like we're pretty close  (adamw,
    15:20:21)
  * "adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion" - I didn't get around
    to this yet, sorry  (adamw, 15:21:06)
  * ACTION: adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion  (adamw,
    15:21:18)

* release criteria revision  (adamw, 15:23:19)
  * ACTION: adamw to draft new partitioning criterion for Beta once we
    know what will be in anaconda  (adamw, 15:30:47)
  * adamw/tfink propose to replace specific upgrade methods in the Beta
    upgrade criterion with 'officially supported upgrade method(s)'
    (adamw, 15:38:07)
  * 'all kickstart delivery methods' criterion is agreed to be possibly
    overstated  (adamw, 15:41:01)
  * ACTION: adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method'
    criterion  (adamw, 15:41:11)
  * ACTION: tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team,
    fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything
    they feel should be dialled down  (adamw, 15:47:17)

* Naming of TCs/RCs  (adamw, 15:48:20)
  * AGREED: we still don't have a proposed scheme that everyone loves,
    but we agree the goal is to come up with a TC/RC naming scheme as
    unlikely as possible to confuse people about what each build is
    (adamw, 16:01:51)

* open floor  (adamw, 16:02:12)
  * tflink will be announcing a new release of the blocker bug tracking
    app (also known as Skynet) shortly  (adamw, 16:04:29)

Meeting ended at 16:12:55 UTC.




Action Items
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* adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion
* adamw to draft new partitioning criterion for Beta once we know what
  will be in anaconda
* adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion
* tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, fesco...) to
  look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel
  should be dialled down




Action Items, by person
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* adamw
  * adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion
  * adamw to draft new partitioning criterion for Beta once we know what
    will be in anaconda
  * adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion
* tflink
  * tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, fesco...) to
    look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel
    should be dialled down
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (141)
* tflink (63)
* dan408- (21)
* jreznik (8)
* nirik (6)
* robatino (5)
* zodbot (3)
* Cerlyn (3)
* maxamillion (3)
* misc (2)
* Southern_Gentlem (2)
* spoore (1)
* brunowolff (1)
* jskladan (1)




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