#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting

Meeting summary

1. roll call (adamw, 15:01:28)
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:05:50)
   1. "adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion" and "adamw to draft new partitioning criterion for Beta once we know what will be in anaconda" - the proposal's on the list, we'll come to it later (adamw, 15:06:28)
   2. "adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion" - didn't get to that one yet, sorry (adamw, 15:06:39)
   3. "tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel should be dialled down" - tflink was waiting for the revised partitioning criteria before doing this, so will happen soon (adamw, 15:08:16)
   
   
3. Release criteria: partitioning criteria proposal (adamw, 15:10:03)
   1. adamw proposed revised partition criteria for F18+ to the list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-October/110494.html (adamw, 15:10:46)
   2. AGREED: the modified proposed criteria given at XX:37 in the log are approved as the baseline requirements for F18 beta, further requirements have been suggested but will be discussed separately (adamw, 15:50:05)
   3. ACTION: adamw to propose a criterion covering basic (not advanced) re-use of /home for Beta (adamw, 15:52:33)
   4. viking-ice suggests that for f19+, much more custom partitioning functionality should be required at Beta (adamw, 15:53:01)
   5. there is some support for requiring creation of LVs/advanced btrfs partitions/RAID to work at beta (adamw, 15:54:30)
   
   
4. Release criteria: upgrade criteria proposal (adamw, 15:56:36)
   1. tflink quoted the current proposals at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-October/110512.html (adamw, 15:56:56)
   2. viking-ice points out that the question of the status of upgrades from older Fedora releases has still not been entirely settled (adamw, 16:02:02)
   3. there is some support for extending the criteria to support upgrades from the two previous stable releases, we will discuss that separately (adamw, 16:07:27)
   4. AGREED: tflink's proposal for upgrade criteria, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-October/110512.html , is accepted (but we note that the use of 'or' is slightly ambiguous and can be improved) (adamw, 16:11:27)
   5. AGREED: the intent of the proposed criteria is that you must be able to upgrade all three of: a) a minimal install, b) a GNOME install, c) a KDE install (adamw, 16:11:54)
   
   
5. Fedora 18 Beta status: freeze-worthy? (adamw, 16:12:56)
   1. FESCo will be determining this week if the F18 codebase, especially anaconda, is complete enough to enter freeze for Beta (adamw, 16:13:44)
   2. the idea is that we freeze only once the code required by the Beta criteria is broadly in place (adamw, 16:14:05)
   3. the new upgrade tool code is at https://github.com/wgwoods/fedup , but as far as we are aware there has been no release and no indication that it is yet in testable state (adamw, 16:17:05)
   4. wwoods says fedup should be testable before freeze (adamw, 16:25:16)
   5. dlehman says current partitioning code covers the criteria as accepted earlier in the meeting (adamw, 16:25:46)
   6. AGREED: QA agrees that the current state of F18 is not freezeable but anaconda team believes outstanding issues will be resolved before freeze. we will list specific areas of concern on the FESCo ticket: upgrade tool and autopart install into free space (adamw, 16:36:24)
   
   
6. Open Floor (tflink, 16:39:04)

Action items

1. adamw to propose a criterion covering basic (not advanced) re-use of /home for Beta

Action items, by person

1. adamw
   1. adamw to propose a criterion covering basic (not advanced) re-use of /home for Beta

People present (lines said)

1. adamw (203)
2. tflink (76)
3. Viking-Ice (58)
4. dlehman (23)
5. nirik (22)
6. kparal (22)
7. wwoods (13)
8. akshayvyas (8)
9. zodbot (4)
10. jskladan (2)
11. jreznik (2)
12. Martix (1)
13. mkrizek (1)
14. jwb (1)
15. pschindl (1)
16. viking-ice (0)