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#fedora-meeting: fedora-qa
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-10-15/fedora-qa.2012-10-15-15.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* roll call  (adamw, 15:00:15)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 15:05:02)
  * adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion
    - still didn't get enough round tuits, sorry  (adamw, 15:05:30)
  * tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team,fesco...) to
    look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel
    should be dialled down - tflink posted a thread that got some
    responses but it went down a detour, we will try again  (adamw,
    15:12:22)
  * ACTION: tflink try again with asking other teams to review the
    updated release criteria  (adamw, 15:12:59)

* Fedora 18 Beta status check  (adamw, 15:13:10)
  * F18 Beta TC4 landed Saturday  (adamw, 15:13:48)
  * TC4 comes with a regression in NetworkManager:
    http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866434  (adamw, 15:17:07)
  * new upgrade tool is still not testable so far as we know  (adamw,
    15:19:08)
  * AGREED: as new upgrade tool is still not complete, QA does not
    recommend freezing for Beta at this time  (adamw, 15:22:36)
  * ACTION: adamw to update fesco freeze ticket  (adamw, 15:22:44)

* Fedora 18 Beta mini blocker review  (adamw, 15:23:05)

* (864981) BootLoaderError: bootloader install failed  (tflink,
  15:30:19)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864981   (tflink,
    15:30:19)
  * Proposed Blocker NEW  (tflink, 15:30:19)
  * AGREED: 864981 - This seems severe but it would be good to have some
    more information - ask reporter to reproduce and provide more
    details on VM setup  (tflink, 15:36:55)

* (866115) ValueError: ('invalid size specification', '0 b')  (tflink,
  15:37:07)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866115   (tflink,
    15:37:07)
  * Proposed Blocker NEW  (tflink, 15:37:07)
  * AGREED: 866115 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an
    installation using automatic partitioning to any sufficiently large
    target disk, whether unformatted, empty, or containing any kind of
    existing data"  (tflink, 15:39:53)

* (866486) Apper: cannot perform system update  (tflink, 15:40:06)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866486   (tflink,
    15:40:06)
  * Proposed Blocker NEW  (tflink, 15:40:06)
  * AGREED: 866486 - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion:
    "The installed system must be able to download and install updates
    with yum and the default graphical package manager in all
    release-blocking desktops"  (tflink, 15:45:42)

* (866434) DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The
  name :1.0 was not provided by any .service files  (tflink, 15:45:57)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866434   (tflink,
    15:46:00)
  * Proposed Blocker NEW  (tflink, 15:46:03)
  * AGREED: 866434 - It would be good to have more data on the number of
    people affected by this an more confirmation of the cause - will
    revisit when more information is available  (tflink, 15:51:49)

* (866441) TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable  (tflink,
  15:51:56)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866441   (tflink,
    15:51:57)
  * Proposed Blocker NEW  (tflink, 15:51:57)
  * AGREED: 866441 - More information is needed on the cause of this
    before deciding on blocker status - will revisit later  (tflink,
    15:55:37)

* (866519) BIOS RAID is not shown on harddrive screen  (tflink,
  15:56:04)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866519   (tflink,
    15:56:04)
  * Proposed Blocker NEW  (tflink, 15:56:04)
  * AGREED: 866519 - We need more information on the affected HW and how
    many people are affected before making a decision on blokcker status
    (tflink, 16:04:23)

* open floor  (adamw, 16:06:06)

Meeting ended at 16:13:35 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* tflink try again with asking other teams to review the updated release
  criteria
* adamw to update fesco freeze ticket




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw to update fesco freeze ticket
* tflink
  * tflink try again with asking other teams to review the updated
    release criteria
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (107)
* tflink (73)
* kparal (42)
* jreznik (28)
* Viking-Ice (24)
* dan408- (13)
* zodbot (8)
* mkrizek (6)
* jskladan (5)
* nirik (4)
* brunowolff (4)
* pschindl (3)
* jsmith (2)
* Southern_Gentlem (1)
* Martix_ (1)
* Cerlyn (1)
* satellit_e (1)
* maxamillion (1)




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