02:00:29 <dan408_> #startmeeting FAmNA 02:00:29 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 21 02:00:29 2012 UTC. The chair is dan408_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:29 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:01:04 <dan408_> #topic roll call 02:01:08 <dan408_> hello everyone 02:01:30 <graphite6> Hello! 02:01:52 * masta waves 02:01:57 <dan408_> #chair masta 02:01:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: dan408_ masta 02:02:08 <dan408_> hello graphite6! 02:02:09 * inode0 waves 02:02:13 <dan408_> #chair graphite6 inode0 02:02:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: dan408_ graphite6 inode0 masta 02:02:14 <graphite6> I'm here, currently reading the logs from the meetings I've missed 02:02:16 <dan408_> hi inode0 02:02:22 <chanchito> greetings 02:02:26 <dan408_> #chair chanchito 02:02:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: chanchito dan408_ graphite6 inode0 masta 02:03:01 <dan408_> give people another minute 02:03:04 <dan408_> i know i barely made it 02:04:07 <dan408_> #chair NiveusLuna 02:04:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: NiveusLuna chanchito dan408_ graphite6 inode0 masta 02:04:17 <dan408_> anyone else here? 02:04:37 <dan408_> ok lets get it going 02:04:37 <dan408_> #topic === Announcements === 02:04:52 <dan408_> anyone with announcements? 02:05:30 <dan408_> quiet in here today 02:05:35 <masta> :) 02:05:38 <dan408_> everyone must be getting ready for the holidays 02:05:55 <graphite6> definitely dreaming about turkey and pie :D 02:06:01 <chanchito> :-) tired from work, working all weekend again, and thursday too 02:06:02 <dan408_> ditto 02:06:04 * inode0 is just feeling guilty for having a low productivity week 02:06:19 <dan408_> #topic === Tickets === 02:06:26 <chanchito> yay tickets! 02:06:31 <dan408_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 02:06:49 <dan408_> #topic Ticket #33 - 2012 Fedora Merchandise Order 02:07:11 <dan408_> So I spoke with suehle about the playing cards 02:07:27 <dan408_> she didnt have a concrete answer but she said $3.50 or less per unit depending on how many we order 02:07:30 <masta> .famnaticket 33 02:07:31 <zodbot> masta: #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33 02:07:40 <masta> dan408_: like that ^^ 02:07:43 <dan408_> thanks 02:08:12 * inode0 understands she already ordered them but since we haven't discussed price or volume I am not sure what is going on 02:08:36 <dan408_> oh did she place a new order? 02:08:36 <inode0> but we'll get some cards I guess 02:08:58 <chanchito> it will hard to get discounts with multiple orders, rather than a bulk purchase 02:09:07 <masta> nb: you around? 02:09:22 <dan408_> ok 02:09:34 <inode0> something about money left in the quarter needing to be spent 02:09:41 <dan408_> she said they are blessed since they were already ordered, i did notify spot, he didnt say "no" 02:10:04 <dan408_> do you know how many were ordered inode0? 02:10:09 <chanchito> can we order more shirts with the leftover funds? 02:10:18 <inode0> spot has now blessed them sort of - being blessed for Red Hat to produce and being blessed for us to produce are a bit different 02:10:40 <dan408_> ok 02:10:42 <dan408_> got it 02:10:45 <inode0> I already said I don't have any idea about price or volume since no one discussed it with us 02:10:56 <graphite6> the fun of multiple expense streams 02:11:03 <dan408_> let them handle it 02:11:27 <dan408_> and yes +1 chanchito 02:11:34 <dan408_> would like to get some more shirts ordered if possible 02:11:50 <dan408_> i think we are overdoing it on the pens 02:11:58 <inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pchestek/TMGuidelinesDraft#Ambassador_Giveaways 02:12:12 <chanchito> i have close to 1000 pens leftover from my last event 02:12:16 <inode0> See the pre-approved types section there - it is isn't on that list it isn't approved for us 02:12:22 <chanchito> too many pens, too many stickers 02:12:29 <dan408_> +1 ChanServ 02:12:30 <dan408_> err 02:12:33 <dan408_> +1 chanchito 02:13:15 <inode0> who was just talking about the wonders of volume buying? 02:13:31 <dan408_> <suehle> It is on my to-do list to look that up this week. We don't need another trademark blessing for something we've done before though. 02:13:51 <inode0> pens and stickers were purchased in massive quantities really cheap - it is fine if they last for several years 02:13:51 <chanchito> true! thx jon, i stand corrected, very good point sir! :-) 02:13:55 <dan408_> <suehle> Last time we spent $2400 for iirc... 420 decks? Could be off a bit. 02:14:10 <dan408_> <suehle> I think they were usually $3-4, but that was back in June, so I'm fuzzy on it. 02:14:15 <rbergeron> hiiiidey ho 02:14:18 <chanchito> how will we distribute the decks of cards? 02:14:22 <dan408_> #chair rbergeron 02:14:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: NiveusLuna chanchito dan408_ graphite6 inode0 masta rbergeron 02:14:36 <chanchito> FPL in the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02:14:44 <dan408_> hey rbergeron :) 02:15:14 <dan408_> so we know playing cards were ordered we dont know how many 02:15:35 <dan408_> we know there's some extra money in the budget, dont know how much 02:15:51 <dan408_> anything else? 02:15:52 <chanchito> i heard the extra money is for sandwiches and beer! 02:16:17 <masta> * last week there was an #action to update #33 for hats @ $3.80 per, and I think a tentative order of 200 02:16:23 <dan408_> yeah we have started producing fedora beer 02:16:36 <dan408_> jk 02:17:05 <dan408_> wasn't EMEA going to give us some hats? 02:17:07 * masta ticklets nb 02:17:09 <graphite6> +1 for fedora beer 02:17:38 <chanchito> i ordered an ambassador shirt and never recieved it from EMEA 02:17:53 <inode0> I don't think we can do anything about hats really, EMEA was ordering some and planned to send some to us 02:18:17 <chanchito> hats are very nice, but they disappear very quickly at events 02:18:25 <masta> yes, our order was to pay back emea 02:18:50 <dan408_> i dont really care about hats personally 02:19:03 <dan408_> masta: who received the hats? 02:19:11 <inode0> they don't exist yet 02:19:17 <dan408_> ok 02:19:31 <dan408_> who will follow up with emea? 02:19:51 <chanchito> does anyone know if they ordered the tan or is it possible to order black / blue fedora baseball hats? 02:19:55 <masta> but we should do the right thing for emea if they are making a big order and sending some to NA, the expecation (said in last weeks meeting) was we get our act together and send some back their way 02:20:06 <inode0> rather than bug them I think we can just wait until they say "hey famna, here are some hats" 02:20:12 <dan408_> ^ 02:20:16 <chanchito> good point 02:20:22 <dan408_> we dont know how the hats will do here 02:20:29 <dan408_> so let's just get their leftovers and wiat 02:20:31 <dan408_> wait* 02:20:31 <inode0> yes we do 02:20:35 <chanchito> deal 02:20:44 <inode0> people will take them as fast as we can set them out 02:21:16 <dan408_> same goes for shirts and usb sticks 02:21:20 <masta> we still want to put ~200 hats in #33 @ $3.80 per so that we have them covered in the budget 02:21:22 <inode0> yes 02:21:35 <dan408_> 200? 02:21:40 <dan408_> how will the y be distributed? 02:21:47 <dan408_> 200 isnt a lot. 02:21:57 <inode0> masta: normally when we purchase things for other regions the money people in red hat shuffle funds appropriately 02:22:30 * masta stands corrected 02:22:34 <inode0> it is fine to indicate if we haven't that we approved 200@$3.80 or whatever it was 02:22:46 <chanchito> they're never cheap, despite advances in embroidery technology and machines, i find hats are always pricey to customize, unless you can afford to order in the tens of thousands 02:23:11 <chanchito> but 200 is better than none at all 02:23:14 <inode0> $3.80 is really cheap for a hat 02:23:17 <dan408_> ok 02:23:22 <inode0> they plan to order more later 02:23:26 <chanchito> cool beans 02:23:28 <dan408_> we'll figure out distribution later 02:23:30 <chanchito> +1 for more hats 02:23:33 <dan408_> +1 02:23:45 <dan408_> 100 balloons? 02:23:52 <NiveusLuna> +1 for playing cards and hats. 02:24:00 <dan408_> can someone tell me who needs these and for what? 02:24:08 <NiveusLuna> i am here. just quiet. :P 02:24:31 <chanchito> please no more pens/stickers, i have nightmares where i think zombies are chasing me, instead they run past me because they are being chased by fedora pens that walk and have teeth 02:24:37 <inode0> balloons are practically free and they have been fun things to have at family oriented events like UTOSC in the past 02:24:49 <dan408_> ok 02:25:11 <dan408_> what is a keyboard sticker? 02:25:25 <inode0> covers the "windows" key 02:25:32 <chanchito> the sticker near one of the corners that says Intel or AMD 02:25:36 <dan408_> lol 02:25:41 <NiveusLuna> i want some of those. i don't have any. 02:25:46 <chanchito> me too please 02:25:49 <dan408_> ok 02:25:53 <dan408_> +1 02:25:58 <chanchito> +1 02:26:25 <NiveusLuna> i have the ones that cover amd/intel/DesignedForWindows. just no keyboard keys. 02:26:27 <masta> how much longer do we want to keep #33 open? 02:26:28 <NiveusLuna> +1 02:26:30 * inode0 wasn't overly thrilled with them but doesn't object to trying again 02:26:37 <dan408_> window clings? 02:26:46 <inode0> we don't want more of those 02:26:48 <dan408_> i am honestly -1 on that 02:26:48 <NiveusLuna> now that's a weird one. 02:26:57 <rbergeron> window clings kind of suck 02:27:08 <inode0> I like mine in the back window of my truck :) 02:27:12 <chanchito> i never got to see them 02:27:17 <rbergeron> they aren't very visible (the blue lettering) in cars - if it was bigger/larger/more white maybe 02:27:24 <NiveusLuna> i didn't know we had any. 02:27:29 <dan408_> i have a sticker on my car 02:27:30 <rbergeron> NiveusLuna: they are very old 02:27:33 <chanchito> is it one of those triangles, like "baby on board" ? 02:27:38 <inode0> but that was something we tried that didn't really work our very well 02:27:39 <rbergeron> like ... 3 years ago? 02:27:47 <dan408_> ok 02:27:53 <dan408_> -1 02:27:56 <NiveusLuna> -1 02:28:00 <chanchito> -1 02:28:02 * inode0 has some that he can share though 02:28:22 <rbergeron> http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/27066_382294479570_6377340_n.jpg 02:28:26 <dan408_> what is a "large fedora voice sticker"? 02:28:27 <NiveusLuna> if i had my own car, i'd take one. but i don't wanna put one on mom's car. 02:28:30 <rbergeron> they are ... maybe 4x4 or 5x5? 02:28:40 <dan408_> those look neat for an office i guess 02:28:44 <dan408_> with windows 02:28:45 <rbergeron> NiveusLuna: it's more like a cling than a sticker 02:28:54 <rbergeron> 4"x4" to be clear 02:28:57 <rbergeron> not feet :) 02:29:02 <inode0> yeah, good for office windows pointing into the building too 02:29:05 <NiveusLuna> wow, that's small. 02:29:29 <inode0> but not that valuable all around - they are reasonably nice, just not the best way to go probably 02:29:29 <rbergeron> it's similar to what you would get when buying an ipod or whatever 02:29:31 <dan408_> i think we should adjust the number 02:29:33 <rbergeron> (which I know you would NEVER DO) 02:29:34 <dan408_> numbers* 02:29:38 <chanchito> now that i saw one, i kind of like them 02:29:50 <chanchito> and would like to place them on cars at the mall on a saturday 02:29:55 <dan408_> decide we think we need more of and what we dont need at all 02:30:20 <inode0> chanchito: they are backwards and need to be put on the inside of the window :) 02:30:22 <dan408_> shall we move on to the next ticket? 02:30:30 <inode0> and we don't want you breaking into cars at the mall 02:30:37 <chanchito> wow, batting 1000 tonight! 02:30:55 <NiveusLuna> rbergeron: i have an iphone. because i need it for work. i use it only for phone calls. all actual smartphone activities are done on my android. 02:31:06 <dan408_> .famnaticket 36 02:31:09 <zodbot> dan408_: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 02:31:32 <NiveusLuna> rbergeron: *only for phone calls and test compiles. 02:31:47 <dan408_> So I spoke with suehle about the hotel rooms but not the conference room. If you are attending FUDCON you can just add an extra day for FADNA for the day before 02:32:44 <inode0> somewhere I heard we have a conference room too 02:33:00 <dan408_> yeah i believe we do 02:33:10 <dan408_> i will follow up with suehle 02:33:44 <dan408_> #action Dan to follow up with suehle about a conference room for FADNA 02:34:04 <dan408_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2013 02:34:13 <dan408_> the wiki needs work 02:34:33 <dan408_> so if you have some free time this week please take some time to look at the wiki and update it 02:34:46 <chanchito> roger that! 02:35:10 <dan408_> .famnaticket 45 02:35:12 <zodbot> dan408_: #45 (Discuss FAmNA Reimbursement Guidelines) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/45 02:35:41 <dan408_> i think this is pretty well documented but could use some further clarification 02:36:16 <dan408_> so avoiding the exact same conversation we had last week 02:37:00 <dan408_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_Reimbursement_Guidelines 02:37:21 <dan408_> if someone with some more experience could update this and provide further clarification on specifics that would be great 02:37:31 <dan408_> i.e. what will or wont be covered 02:39:01 <dan408_> anyone have anything on this before we go to open floor? 02:39:42 <dan408_> #topic Open Floor 02:39:50 <dan408_> anyone have anything? 02:40:47 <dan408_> going once 02:40:56 <chanchito> just happy thanksgiving to one and all, friends and family and guests, be safe, travel light, and enjoy! 02:41:05 <dan408_> +1 chanchito 02:41:12 <dan408_> hope everyone fries a turkey 02:41:24 <chanchito> love the crispy skin 02:41:36 <chanchito> +1 for fried yardbird 02:41:38 <dan408_> thanks for attending everyone! 02:41:39 <dan408_> #endmeeting