15:01:50 <jreznik> #startmeeting kde-sig -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2012-12-04
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15:01:59 <jreznik> #meetingname kde-sig
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15:02:10 <jreznik> #topic roll call
15:02:18 * jreznik is looking for kde-siggers...
15:02:26 * jgrulich is here
15:02:29 * rnovacek is here
15:02:32 * dvratil present!
15:02:54 <rdieter> yo yo
15:03:04 * ltinkl is here
15:03:05 <Kevin_Kofler> Present.
15:03:13 <jreznik> #chair jgrulich rnovacek dvratil ltinkl Kevin_Kofler rdieter
15:03:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dvratil jgrulich jreznik ltinkl rdieter rnovacek
15:03:54 <jreznik> #info Kevin_Kofler dvratil jgrulich jreznik ltinkl rdieter rnovacek present
15:04:09 <jreznik> #topic agenda
15:04:42 <jreznik> 4.9.4/4.9.90 updates progress
15:04:47 <jreznik> anything else?
15:05:36 <rnovacek> do we want to discuss 4.10 for f17?
15:06:04 <rdieter> maybe if we have time... (and it looks like we will)
15:06:16 <than> present
15:06:55 <jreznik> #info than present too
15:07:08 <jreznik> #topic 4.9.4 update status
15:08:23 <than> mass import of 4.9.4 uis done
15:08:50 <than> kde-4.9.4 is still building
15:09:11 <than> it should be done today or tomorrow
15:09:24 <jreznik> #info mass import of 4.9.4 is done but builds in progress, should be done today or tomorrow
15:11:12 <jreznik> anything else?
15:11:51 <rdieter> may be worth mentioning that it would appear the udisks2/slow-file-dialog issue may be finally resolved
15:12:10 <rdieter> from initial testing and feedback
15:12:10 <than> yes, it's finally fixed in 4.9.4
15:12:25 <jreznik> #info udisks2/slow-file-dialog issue is resolved
15:12:29 <dvratil> note that the fix is not in 4.10 beta1
15:12:39 <rdieter> dvratil: or beta2?
15:12:43 * rdieter guesses not
15:12:59 <dvratil> no
15:13:04 <dvratil> so beta3 first
15:13:10 <rdieter> dvratil: if not, if it's been usptreamed, I can just cherry pick the commit
15:13:25 <jreznik> well, let's move on 4.10 topic :)
15:13:31 <rdieter> good idea
15:13:50 <jreznik> #topic 4.9.90 aka 4.10 beta 2
15:14:15 <jreznik> #info udisks2/slow-file-dialog fix is not included in 4.9.90
15:14:21 <rdieter> ok, i'd estimate about a good 50% of 4.9.90 is done now.  plowing through the last leaf packages now
15:14:43 <rdieter> then need to work on a batch of new packages: nepomuk-widgets + split kdegames
15:14:53 <jreznik> #info about a good 50% of 4.9.90 is done now
15:15:09 <jreznik> #info new packages - nepomuk-widgets nad kdegames split
15:16:52 <jreznik> cool, anything else on the topic?
15:17:05 <jreznik> at least udisks fix should be cherrypicked
15:17:28 <ltinkl> it's a series of fixes, not easy to cherry-pick
15:17:43 <rdieter> ltinkl: i'll just grab them all then. :)
15:17:48 <dvratil> we could probably make a diff of KDE/4.10 against the snaphost
15:17:54 <ltinkl> either wait for next beta, or make a diff between
15:17:57 <ltinkl> dvratil: ye :)
15:18:00 <rdieter> ok, we'll figure it out
15:18:05 <dvratil> yeah, or just wait for next beta :)
15:18:29 <jreznik> yeah, wait for the next beta/rc
15:18:29 <ltinkl> it's rawhide after all
15:19:04 <rdieter> well, i wanted to make f18 builds too soonish, so didn't want to make testers suffer either.
15:19:29 <rdieter> like i said, we'll figure something out, shouldn't be too rocket-science'y
15:19:46 <jreznik> ok
15:20:35 <jreznik> #agreed to figure out how to proceed with udisk2/solid patchset for 4.9.90
15:21:41 <Kevin_Kofler> I also need to look at what to do about libkdcraw 4.10's libjpeg8 requirement.
15:21:58 <Kevin_Kofler> I'd like to build as much as we can on F18's old libjpeg.
15:22:11 <Kevin_Kofler> I didn't get around to this yet.
15:22:19 <jreznik> #action Kevin_Kofler to take a look at what to do about libkdcraw 4.10's libjpeg8 requirement
15:23:00 <jreznik> anything else?
15:24:18 <jreznik> rnovacek: do you want to discuss 4.10 for f17?
15:24:40 <rdieter> may as well (we have time)
15:25:00 <rnovacek> well, I'm slightly for 4.10 in f17
15:25:08 <jreznik> #topic 4.10 for f17
15:25:32 * jreznik thinks we still follow our rule - one update to one release... anything changed?
15:25:48 <rnovacek> jreznik: f18 schedule changed ;)
15:25:54 <rdieter> primarily due to f18 release delay
15:26:11 <jreznik> 4.10 is still after f18
15:26:21 <jreznik> (I hope)
15:26:25 <jreznik> 21 Wednesday, January 23, 2013: KDE SC 4.10 Release
15:26:41 <rdieter> i'm willing to make kde-unstable pkgs for testing purposes, i figure the upgrade experience will largely dictate how feasible this will be
15:26:52 <jreznik> and we will definitely wait with update for f18 until .1 is released at least as we usually do
15:27:09 <Kevin_Kofler> Proposal: Keep F17 conditionals in, do kde-unstable builds, decide later.
15:27:14 <jreznik> so the same for f17 in case we would like to do it
15:27:21 <jreznik> Kevin_Kofler: +1
15:27:25 <Kevin_Kofler> For example, F18 might incur further slips.
15:27:26 <rnovacek> Kevin_Kofler: +1
15:27:59 <ltinkl> agree
15:28:01 <jgrulich> Kevin_Kofler: +1
15:28:25 <jreznik> rdieter: ?
15:29:44 <rdieter> tentative +1, I vaguely recall that I may have already removed one f17 conditional somewhere though
15:29:44 <rdieter> if you can, please review my commits from yesterday to make sure I didn't lose anything
15:30:46 <jreznik> #agreed keep F17 conditionals in, do kde-unstable builds, decide later
15:31:10 <jreznik> #action recheck f17 conditionals in 4.9.90 import
15:31:41 <rdieter> maybe i'm just thinking of removing consolekit conditional from kde-workspace
15:31:58 <Kevin_Kofler> I think you removed only F16 or older conditionals, indeed.
15:32:12 <Kevin_Kofler> I'll have to recheck the packages you changed the most though (kdelibs, kde-workspace).
15:32:51 <rdieter> on second thought, I think you're right, but still, review is still not a bad idea
15:37:20 <jreznik> ok, I think we are done with f18
15:37:25 <jreznik> f17, sorry
15:37:30 <jreznik> #topic open floor
15:38:39 <rdieter> i've a pkg or 2 in need of reviewer...
15:39:32 <rdieter> .bug 857440
15:39:35 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 857440 Review Request: kio-upnp-ms - UPnP mediaserver kio slave - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857440
15:39:51 <rdieter> and apparently stalled one...
15:39:53 <rdieter> .bug 846481
15:39:56 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 846481 Review Request: cantata - Client for the Music Player Daemon (MPD) - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=846481
15:40:02 <rdieter> (reviewer hasn't responded in awhile)
15:40:28 <rdieter> qt5-qtbase too would be nice, but maybe we could wait for next prerelease too
15:40:53 <rdieter> .bug  878188
15:40:57 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 878188 Review Request: qt5-qtbase - Qt5 - QtBase components - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=878188
15:41:24 <Kevin_Kofler> rdieter: So in kde-workspace at least, you only dropped a conditional for F16-.
15:42:23 <Kevin_Kofler> Likewise in kdelibs.
15:42:39 <Kevin_Kofler> The udisks 1 vs. 2 conditional for F17 vs. F18+ is still there.
15:43:02 <rdieter> ok, thanks
15:43:24 <rdieter> so the remaining tricky part would be how to best handle kde-printer-applet vs kde-print-manager on f17
15:45:20 <jreznik> #info a review for 857440, 846481 is needed, also qt5-qtbase 878188 but we could wait for next prerelease
15:47:19 <jreznik> btw with qt5 - do we want to make something with qt4 (I know, it would be...)... as qt3 < qt < qt5 is not very consistent...
15:47:41 <rdieter> i kinda regret doing the qt4 -> qt rename now
15:48:10 <Kevin_Kofler> We'll want to rename qt back to qt4 once it's no longer the default.
15:48:31 <jreznik> it was cool, new and planned to be around forever :)
15:48:38 <rdieter> on the other hand, i agree with Kevin_Kofler, qt(qt4) is the default and will be for awhile longer, it's not *that* inconsistent
15:50:13 <rdieter> likes like i'm down to 4 kde-4.9.90 ftbfs
15:51:54 <jreznik> and we can hope for faster qt5 migration as in terms of qt widgets apps, it should be quite straightforward...
15:52:05 <jreznik> not like qt3 -> qt4
15:54:12 <jreznik> well, anything else? otherwise I'll set a fuse...
15:55:26 <jreznik> 3...
15:56:10 <Kevin_Kofler> Nothing more from me.
15:56:16 <jreznik> 2...
15:57:32 <jreznik> 1...
15:58:37 <jreznik> thanks for coming!
15:58:41 <jreznik> #endmeeting