#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting

Meeting summary

1. roll call (adamw, 16:00:26)
   1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130204 (adamw, 16:04:02)
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130128#Blocker_process_revision (adamw, 16:05:07)
   
   
2. Criteria revision (adamw, 16:05:30)
   1. adamw will be trying to come up with a proposal for better presenting the release criteria (adamw, 16:12:22)
   2. ideas to keep in mind: (adamw, 16:12:28)
   3. kparal - draw a line between simple explanations and lawyerish complex clauses (adamw, 16:13:01)
   4. kparal/viking-ice - define terms that we're familiar with but a general reader may not be (adamw, 16:13:18)
   5. tflink - ensure there's short text for each criterion for IRC meeting purposes (adamw, 16:13:32)
   6. kparal - group the criteria (installation, desktop, networking...) (adamw, 16:13:42)
   7. kparal - link to background info on each criterion (esp. discussion when it was created) (adamw, 16:14:31)
   8. kparal - some mechanism for tagging criteria - "I hate when I search for PXE, but it is called "network boot" or similar" (adamw, 16:16:04)
   9. criteria revision proposal is just wiki-based for now, but there's a possibility we could move the criteria into the blocker tracking app in future if it gives us useful results (adamw, 16:18:21)
   10. ACTION: adamw to draft up a proposal for revising the presentation of the release criteria (adamw, 16:18:32)
   11. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/Schedule (dan408, 16:19:05)
   
   
3. Test case revision (adamw, 16:20:30)
   1. adamw - maybe expand upgrade test case set a little (adamw, 16:23:31)
   2. viking-ice - identify hw-dependent and non-hw-dependent test cases (adamw, 16:26:48)
   3. kparal - finish revising the partitioning criteria (adamw, 16:27:04)
   4. adamw - come up with a set of common partitioning operation test cases (adamw, 16:27:19)
   5. kparal - explicit Secure Boot criterion? (adamw, 16:28:33)
   6. we should try and get criteria revision and test case revision done before Alpha as much as possible (adamw, 16:32:15)
   
   
4. Fedora 19 Feature list review (adamw, 16:32:18)
   1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/FeatureList (dan408, 16:32:27)
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130204#Fedora_19_Feature_list_review (adamw, 16:33:22)
   3. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Releases/19/FeatureList&diff=321788&oldid=320463 looks like the change to FeatureList from last time (adamw, 16:35:27)
   4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB is clearly a significant change but doesn't directly hit the release criteria and it's pretty hard for us to come up with a reasonably scoped test plan (adamw, 16:40:21)
   5. tflink - maybe if we can find a comprehensive mysql benchmark suite and check that runs, it would indicate a good level of compatibility (adamw, 16:41:06)
   6. viking-ice - make sure we cover testing upgrade from f18 to f19 achieves the mariadb swap cleanly (adamw, 16:42:42)
   7. if mysql is to still be available in f19, check it can be installed and used (adamw, 16:48:45)
   8. on predictable network names - check behaviour of firewalld and libvirt, particularly on upgrades; check 'em0' is still used by new scheme (adamw, 16:50:04)
   9. tflink - KScreen might be worth keeping an eye on for KDE validation (adamw, 16:51:45)
   10. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SyslinuxOption also worth testing (adamw, 16:52:27)
   11. ACTION: adamw to draft up a kickstart criterion for f19 (adamw, 16:57:10)
   12. consider whether syslinux should come in the subset of blocking kickstart options (adamw, 16:57:29)
   
   
5. open floor (adamw, 17:01:09)

Action items

1. adamw to draft up a proposal for revising the presentation of the release criteria
2. adamw to draft up a kickstart criterion for f19

Action items, by person

1. adamw
   1. adamw to draft up a proposal for revising the presentation of the release criteria
   2. adamw to draft up a kickstart criterion for f19

People present (lines said)

1. adamw (175)
2. dan408 (63)
3. Viking-Ice (46)
4. tflink (38)
5. kparal (20)
6. satellit (5)
7. zodbot (4)
8. pjones (3)
9. misc (2)
10. jskladan (1)
11. mjg59 (1)
12. jskladan_ (1)
13. nb (1)
14. mkrizek (1)
15. pschindl (1)