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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-04/fedora-qa.2013-02-04-16.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* roll call  (adamw, 16:00:26)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130204   (adamw,
    16:04:02)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130128#Blocker_process_revision
    (adamw, 16:05:07)

* Criteria revision  (adamw, 16:05:30)
  * adamw will be trying to come up with a proposal for better
    presenting the release criteria  (adamw, 16:12:22)
  * ideas to keep in mind:  (adamw, 16:12:28)
  * kparal - draw a line between simple explanations and lawyerish
    complex clauses  (adamw, 16:13:01)
  * kparal/viking-ice - define terms that we're familiar with but a
    general reader may not be  (adamw, 16:13:18)
  * tflink - ensure there's short text for each criterion for IRC
    meeting purposes  (adamw, 16:13:32)
  * kparal - group the criteria (installation, desktop, networking...)
    (adamw, 16:13:42)
  * kparal - link to background info on each criterion (esp. discussion
    when it was created)  (adamw, 16:14:31)
  * kparal - some mechanism for tagging criteria - "I hate when I search
    for PXE, but it is called "network boot" or similar"  (adamw,
    16:16:04)
  * criteria revision proposal is just wiki-based for now, but there's a
    possibility we could move the criteria into the blocker tracking app
    in future if it gives us useful results  (adamw, 16:18:21)
  * ACTION: adamw to draft up a proposal for revising the presentation
    of the release criteria  (adamw, 16:18:32)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/Schedule   (dan408,
    16:19:05)

* Test case revision  (adamw, 16:20:30)
  * adamw - maybe expand upgrade test case set a little  (adamw,
    16:23:31)
  * viking-ice - identify hw-dependent and non-hw-dependent test cases
    (adamw, 16:26:48)
  * kparal - finish revising the partitioning criteria  (adamw,
    16:27:04)
  * adamw - come up with a set of common partitioning operation test
    cases  (adamw, 16:27:19)
  * kparal - explicit Secure Boot criterion?  (adamw, 16:28:33)
  * we should try and get criteria revision and test case revision done
    before Alpha as much as possible  (adamw, 16:32:15)

* Fedora 19 Feature list review  (adamw, 16:32:18)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/FeatureList
    (dan408, 16:32:27)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130204#Fedora_19_Feature_list_review
    (adamw, 16:33:22)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Releases/19/FeatureList&diff=321788&oldid=320463
    looks like the change to FeatureList from last time  (adamw,
    16:35:27)
  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB is
    clearly a significant change but doesn't directly hit the release
    criteria and it's pretty hard for us to come up with a reasonably
    scoped test plan  (adamw, 16:40:21)
  * tflink - maybe if we can find a comprehensive mysql benchmark suite
    and check that runs, it would indicate a good level of compatibility
    (adamw, 16:41:06)
  * viking-ice - make sure we cover testing upgrade from f18 to f19
    achieves the mariadb swap cleanly  (adamw, 16:42:42)
  * if mysql is to still be available in f19, check it can be installed
    and used  (adamw, 16:48:45)
  * on predictable network names - check behaviour of firewalld and
    libvirt, particularly on upgrades; check 'em0' is still used by new
    scheme  (adamw, 16:50:04)
  * tflink - KScreen might be worth keeping an eye on for KDE validation
    (adamw, 16:51:45)
  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SyslinuxOption also worth
    testing  (adamw, 16:52:27)
  * ACTION: adamw to draft up a kickstart criterion for f19  (adamw,
    16:57:10)
  * consider whether syslinux should come in the subset of blocking
    kickstart options  (adamw, 16:57:29)

* open floor  (adamw, 17:01:09)

Meeting ended at 17:04:55 UTC.




Action Items
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* adamw to draft up a proposal for revising the presentation of the
  release criteria
* adamw to draft up a kickstart criterion for f19




Action Items, by person
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* adamw
  * adamw to draft up a proposal for revising the presentation of the
    release criteria
  * adamw to draft up a kickstart criterion for f19
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (175)
* dan408 (63)
* Viking-Ice (46)
* tflink (38)
* kparal (20)
* satellit (5)
* zodbot (4)
* pjones (3)
* misc (2)
* jskladan (1)
* mjg59 (1)
* jskladan_ (1)
* nb (1)
* mkrizek (1)
* pschindl (1)




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