19:02:02 <jforbes> #startmeeting fedora-kernel
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19:02:20 <jforbes> #topic Who's here?
19:02:34 <jforbes> Hey folks, anyone around?
19:02:35 * nirik is sorta kinda here but also doing other stuff. ;)
19:02:36 <davej> hola
19:03:08 <davej> sure jwb will join us soon
19:03:15 <jforbes> #topic F17
19:03:17 <jwb> sorry, here
19:03:34 <jforbes> I am going to skip F16 because it is EOL in less than a week, though I expect there will be 1 more push
19:03:57 <jforbes> For F17 we are stuck with no one testing, so updates are not getting pushed
19:04:11 <jforbes> The last update in stable updates is 3.7.3
19:04:52 <jforbes> 3.7.4-6 have all been in updates testing, only one feedback on 3.7.6 so far, it was good, but the user was not logged in, so it is still sitting at 0 karma
19:05:06 <jforbes> So please, test and feedback if you can.
19:05:38 <jforbes> #info Fedora 17 kernels need testers to push
19:05:53 <jforbes> Anyone have anything else on F17?
19:06:19 <jforbes> Okay, moving on to F18 then...
19:06:24 <jforbes> #Topic F18
19:06:54 <jwb> 3.7.6 just got pushed to stable updates today
19:06:57 <jforbes> jwb: you want to take this one?
19:07:13 <jwb> there's nothing in updates-testing at the moment, but i expect 3.7.7 will be fairly soon
19:07:25 <jwb> 3.7.7 will fix some regressions on certain radeon cards
19:08:11 <davej> I did some bug cleanup yesterday, but there's still a ton left to do. will do some more this afternoon
19:08:58 <jforbes> Anyone have anything else on F18?
19:09:28 <jwb> don't think so
19:09:33 <jwb> there's been some questions on 3.8
19:09:36 <jforbes> #topic Rawhide
19:09:48 <jwb> rawhide is sitting at 3.8-rc6-git3
19:09:56 <jwb> it has most of the debug options enabled
19:10:04 <jwb> i'll go back to doing a nodebug build with -rc7
19:10:23 <jwb> there's one larger bug i'm working on right now, where a pidns commit causes mock to fail with an ENOMEM
19:10:32 <jwb> which is... probably the wrong errno but whatever
19:10:44 <jwb> upstream has been told.  hopefully eric wakes up and pokes at it
19:10:56 <davej> Biederman ?
19:11:02 <jwb> yes.  his commit
19:11:26 <jwb> i'm trying to poke at it some and see what mock is doing and why it used to work and now fails with taht commit
19:11:35 <jwb> maybe something simple, but don't know yet
19:11:40 <jwb> mock isn't exactly trivial
19:12:03 <jwb> oh, the results of the debug stuff are basically: SLUB_DEBUG is horrible
19:12:12 <jwb> and it makes every other debug option worse too
19:12:28 <davej> how much is mitigated by slub_debug=- ?
19:12:39 <jwb> almost all of it
19:12:59 <davej> that's good news at least
19:13:06 <jwb> it pretty much goes back to acting like we didn't have SLUB_DEBUG enabled, which is to be expected i guess
19:13:21 <jwb> i think there are other things you can pass slub_debug= but i haven't poked at that yet
19:13:31 <brunowolff> For me stuff has been tolerable disabling slub_debug at boot. I am having trouble comparing the latest kernel though, as I had to switch away from gnome after it broke for me.
19:14:21 <jwb> i gathered some of the stats we had from various people here:
19:14:23 <jwb> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelDebugOptions
19:15:22 <davej> jwb: add some graphs and google ads and you'd be phoronix
19:15:40 <jwb> oh man.  i could be famous(ly dumb)!
19:16:44 <jforbes> heh
19:16:55 <jforbes> anything else on rawhide?
19:17:34 <nirik> yeah, with slub debug it's usable here.
19:17:47 <jwb> don't think i have anything else
19:17:51 <nirik> there are a bunch of flags you can pass that, which could be difficult to isolate.
19:18:06 <jforbes> #topic Open Floor
19:18:14 <jforbes> Okay going to open up the floor, anything else?
19:18:29 <jwb> davej, did you want to ask nirik about an f16 update push?
19:18:32 <davej> yeah
19:18:48 <nirik> I didn't do one last night/today because there were only 2 packages in it. ;)
19:18:52 <davej> nirik: so we have 2 changes pending in the f16 kernel. 1 security fix, 1 'silence noisy printk'.
19:18:58 <davej> if I build that today, will it go out ?
19:19:05 <nirik> sure, I can do another push later today.
19:19:14 <davej> ok, I'll kick it off
19:19:24 <nirik> let me know when it's ready
19:19:40 <davej> will do.
19:20:38 <jforbes> If that's all, I am going to close in 2 mins
19:21:14 <davej> I got nothing
19:22:24 <jforbes> Okay, thanks for coming out everyone
19:22:26 <jforbes> #endmeeting