15:11:32 <Kevin_Kofler> #startmeeting KDE SIG Meeting
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15:11:40 <Kevin_Kofler> #meetingname kde-sig
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15:11:46 <Kevin_Kofler> #topic Roll Call
15:11:52 <rdieter> here
15:12:04 <tdfischer> lo
15:12:10 <jgrulich> present
15:12:11 <dvratil> here
15:15:54 <Kevin_Kofler> ltinkl: ?
15:16:03 <Kevin_Kofler> (The 3 minutes have passed. ;-) )
15:16:25 <ltinkl> I'm here
15:16:39 <Kevin_Kofler> #chair rdieter tdfischer jgrulich dvratil ltinkl
15:16:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dvratil jgrulich ltinkl rdieter tdfischer
15:16:57 <Kevin_Kofler> #info Kevin_Kofler, rdieter, tdfischer, jgrulich, dvratil, ltinkl present.
15:17:02 <Kevin_Kofler> #topic Agenda
15:17:14 <Kevin_Kofler> So the proposals we had so far were:
15:17:45 <Kevin_Kofler> * KDE 4.10 for F17 → defer until than is available again.
15:17:55 <Kevin_Kofler> * KDE 4.10 for F18 → OK
15:18:03 <Kevin_Kofler> Anything else?
15:19:57 <tdfischer> none from me
15:20:12 <Kevin_Kofler> OK, let's start then.
15:20:19 <Kevin_Kofler> #topic KDE 4.10 for F18
15:21:58 <ltinkl> +1 from me :)
15:22:25 <Kevin_Kofler> Well, that's not the question. :-)
15:22:35 <Kevin_Kofler> That's how far we agreed.
15:22:54 <Kevin_Kofler> The question there has been some disagreement on is: when?
15:23:22 <Kevin_Kofler> I'd say: ASAP, considering the blockers.
15:24:10 * rdieter propses waiting for  4.10.1
15:24:18 <rdieter> proposes even
15:24:32 <ltinkl> I've no problem with even 4.10
15:24:59 <ltinkl> so far it's proven itself to be rock-solid
15:25:05 <tdfischer> yeah, same here
15:25:11 <tdfischer> rdieter: why do you propose that?
15:25:23 <tdfischer> just curious
15:25:28 <Kevin_Kofler> Tracker: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=kde-4.10
15:25:38 <rdieter> there's *lots* of bugfixes post 4.10
15:25:49 <tdfischer> fair enough
15:26:10 <Kevin_Kofler> The main stuff on it is reviews for new packages.
15:26:17 <Kevin_Kofler> We've come quite far on those.
15:26:56 <tdfischer> 4.10.1 is planned for march 5th
15:26:56 <rdieter> besides kdegames reviews aren't done yet anyway
15:27:12 <tdfischer> thats not terribly far away, I'm all for more bugfixes and better user experience
15:28:35 <Kevin_Kofler> I'd say once the reviews are complete (also qaccessibilityclient! kmag wants that one), push ahead.
15:29:11 <Kevin_Kofler> Kolf seems to be the main offender, I think we need to get this through one way or the other.
15:29:42 <rdieter> imo, we could just skip games that don't pass review too
15:30:29 <Kevin_Kofler> I don't like losing software that was there before.
15:31:05 <tdfischer> me either
15:32:33 <rdieter> do you really want to block 4.10 on a missing game?
15:32:54 <rdieter> frankly, i'm not willing to do that
15:33:51 <rdieter> if it were some important/critical piece, I'd feel otherwise...
15:34:15 <Kevin_Kofler> IMHO, anything that was there before and that is no more is a blocker.
15:36:26 <tdfischer> would waiting for 4.10.1 give enough time to get kolf reviewed and ready?
15:36:45 <Kevin_Kofler> I think we should have all the stuff reviewed before 4.10.1.
15:36:47 <nucleo> 9 games reviews left
15:37:31 <Kevin_Kofler> We're almost through.
15:41:52 <rdieter> yes, nearing finish line
15:42:55 <ltinkl> anything else to discuss?
15:47:20 <tdfischer> none here
15:48:14 <Kevin_Kofler> Neither here. So let's close the meeting?
15:52:38 <rdieter> close++
15:54:48 <Kevin_Kofler> #endmeeting