06:02:37 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n
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06:02:47 <pravins> #meetingname i18n
06:02:47 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:03:00 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:03:15 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-02-28
06:03:32 <pravins> hi all, can we have i18n meeting?
06:03:40 <Alam> hi
06:04:13 <dueno> hi
06:04:20 <paragan> hi
06:05:28 <pravins> hi Alam dueno paragan
06:05:42 <pravins> since tagoh is away today, i am conducting this meeting.
06:05:56 <pravins> i hope this will not take much time, lets start
06:06:06 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:06:19 <pravins> #info 2013-03-12        Feature Freeze--Planning & Development Ends
06:06:19 <pravins> #info 2013-03-12        Branch Fedora 19 from Rawhide
06:06:19 <pravins> #info 2013-04-02        Branch Freeze
06:06:19 <pravins> #info 2013-04-02        Software String Freeze
06:06:19 <pravins> #info 2013-04-02        Alpha Change Deadline
06:08:10 <fujiwarat> hi
06:08:16 <pravins> hi fujiwarat
06:08:42 <pravins> This is just to let you know regarding upcoming events. Currently more important from our side it Feature Freeze
06:09:06 <pravins> #topic Outstanding topics
06:09:38 <pravins> #info #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day
06:09:47 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16
06:10:16 <epico> hi
06:10:27 <pravins> hi epico
06:11:00 <pravins> tagoh has asked some specific question on above ticket, will be good if we can answer those
06:11:01 <anish_> hi
06:11:19 <pravins> hi anish_
06:11:29 <pravins> one question is,  "If we are not going to make i-t-b as default engine for Indic, it can be dropped this time?"
06:11:57 <anish_> we are not making it default for this time
06:14:03 <pravins> anish_: do you think we should drop it from testing this time?
06:14:16 <pravins> or should we have it in?
06:14:28 <pravins> anish_: if yes, i think we need to improve test cases for it
06:14:57 <pravins> dueno: there is question on ​https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Eekboard as well
06:15:09 <pravins> Do we still want to include this test case? or switch to caribou?
06:15:30 <anish_> We can definitely improve the test cases
06:15:45 <pravins> anish_: thanks, me too thinks same.
06:16:01 <dueno> good question, but I guess we won't drop iok/eekboard support from ibus-m17n
06:16:06 <dueno> for this time
06:16:16 <anish_> pravins, thanks!
06:16:47 <pravins> #action anish to improve ibus-typing-booster test cases with latest improvements
06:17:29 <pravins> dueno: sure. will continue with it.
06:19:12 <pravins> updated the ticket as per comments.
06:19:53 <pravins> will have more discussion on this in next meeting with tagoh
06:19:58 <pravins> lets move ahead
06:20:01 <pravins> #info #17: Fedora 19 i18n test day
06:20:12 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/17
06:20:30 <pravins> Alam: do you have any updates on this?
06:20:31 <Alam> pravins: basic Test day page created: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-02_Localization_%28i18n%29
06:21:25 <Alam> i18n team need to update matrix as tagoh suggested + test case addition and review for Test Day
06:21:52 <pravins> Alam: test page looks nice.
06:22:26 <Alam> FLTG team can help to pre-test review for test cases and matrix (test result)
06:24:16 <pravins> Alam: sure. 2nd May Thursday looks good.
06:25:50 <pravins> Review and comments from FLTG will be very useful. Since most of the time test cases are more from developer perspective.
06:26:09 <pravins> So help to make it for layman it welcome :)
06:26:57 <pravins> updated ticket accordingly.
06:27:11 <pravins> lets more for next item then
06:27:35 <pravins> #topic Outstanding task
06:27:49 <pravins> #info #15: F19 Feature: libkkc
06:28:01 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/15
06:28:40 <pravins> dueno: would you like to share any update on this feature?
06:29:24 <dueno> pravins, I submitted new update for F18/F17 last week, which should basically work for normal users
06:31:46 <pravins> dueno: It will be good to see this feature page in 100%
06:32:58 <dueno> pravins, there is still a missing feature, so I'll update it to 100% when it is implemented
06:33:22 <pravins> sure, thanks dueno for update.
06:34:00 <pravins> #topic New topics
06:34:10 <pravins> #info #18: F19 i18n docbeats
06:34:16 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/18
06:34:45 <pravins> i was just checking Fedora Release notes, http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html#sect-Desktop
06:36:14 <pravins> i see there "utilities" block as well
06:36:22 <pravins> i think we can have same for F19 as well in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
06:36:51 <pravins> paragan: mentioned about tw package in the morning https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/tw
06:37:38 <pravins> it basically "Translate words into different languages", so i think it can come under utilities heading
06:39:01 <pravins> paragan: did you tested this?
06:39:19 <paragan> yes we can add tw to utilities for f19 docs
06:39:46 <paragan> its basically a command line language translator
06:39:53 <paragan> man tw lists many options
06:40:28 <pravins> paragan: thanks
06:40:44 <pravins> might be we can see if there is any such more stuff available specific to i18n and add it it under utilities heading
06:41:07 <paragan> ok
06:42:35 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:42:47 <epico> it seems wayland plan to add input method protocol, from scim-devel mailing list.
06:43:08 <epico> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.wayland.devel/7177
06:44:28 <paragan> aha
06:45:03 <epico> just saw it today.
06:47:01 <pravins> epico: loosk interesting. dunno whether they can refer to ibus anyway?
06:47:59 <pravins> in between paragan i have one comment on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Language_Support
06:47:59 <epico> pravins, guess ibus can also support it?
06:48:52 <epico> dunno whether the patches merged into wayland upstream.
06:49:09 <pravins> hmm, i think fujiwarat can give better comment :)
06:49:34 <paragan> pravins, yes?
06:49:36 <pravins> epico: thanks for notifying this.
06:49:42 <epico> pravins, :)
06:49:48 <pravins> paragan: under Asia, we should provide link for Indic stuff as well
06:50:25 <pravins> might be simple link for existing documentation on Indic stuff
06:50:36 <paragan> yeah currently they are all scattered on various pages.
06:51:16 <paragan> basically those pages are created considering Anaconda language support (which mean desktop language support also)
06:51:47 <paragan> I will check and modify as per needed :)
06:52:01 <pravins> paragan: thanks a lot for this.
06:53:18 <pravins> if nothing else we can close meeting in couple of minutes
06:54:00 <pravins> thanks everyone for meeting
06:54:03 <pravins> #endmeeting