04:08:46 #startmeeting Fedora APAC Ambassadors 2013-03-02 04:08:46 Meeting started Sat Mar 2 04:08:46 2013 UTC. The chair is keshavmishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:08:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:08:59 hi 04:09:03 hi 04:09:06 .fas dramsey 04:09:06 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:09:10 .fas vicodan 04:09:11 .fas ankursinha 04:09:11 dan408: vicodan 'Dan Mashal' 04:09:14 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:09:29 .fas keshavmishra 04:09:29 keshavmishra: keshavmishra 'keshav kumar' 04:09:53 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-02-16#Agenda 04:10:43 keshavmishra: please start with the first item. I think news from famsco would be it. 04:10:52 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:11:02 Please also add dramsey to the chair, in case you have connection issues: #chair dramsey 04:11:03 any news dramsey ? 04:11:16 #chair dramsey 04:11:16 Current chairs: dramsey keshavmishra 04:11:19 i dont get a chair? 04:11:31 #chair dan408 04:11:31 Current chairs: dan408 dramsey keshavmishra 04:11:31 * FranciscoD breaks a chair on dan408 04:11:39 +1 FranciscoD 04:11:45 * FranciscoD doesn't see tuanta or bckurera around 04:11:47 #chair FranciscoD 04:11:48 Current chairs: FranciscoD dan408 dramsey keshavmishra 04:11:53 So I assume there isn't much news from famsco 04:11:59 .fas tuanta 04:12:00 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:12:05 sorry, I am late :) 04:12:08 ah, he's here. 04:12:09 FranciscoD: did you see Joerg's email? 04:12:14 tuanta: news from famsco :P 04:12:27 yes 04:12:34 dan408: about the fedora credit card? Yes. There's dicussion on going on the trac ticket. 04:12:37 yes 04:12:38 ok 04:13:08 FAmSCo is working with APAC to have community card holder in APAC 04:13:20 +1 04:13:46 We'll give them time and let them decide and sort it. Patience is key here. Right tuanta ? 04:13:48 in the past, Harish support us but he has been so busy for months 04:14:02 yes, FranciscoD 04:14:13 .fas lovenemesis 04:14:14 lovenemesis: lovenemesis 'Zongyuan He' 04:14:17 In the mean time, the tickets will be passed on to kital and other credic card holders. 04:14:24 +1 FranciscoD 04:14:48 any other news tuanta ? 04:14:56 the best candidate is KageSenshi 04:14:58 #info please read the mail on the Ambassadors mailing list regarding the credit card status and reimbursements until then 04:15:01 tuanta: +1 04:15:21 I discussed with him on IRC 04:15:37 +1 04:15:39 everything is on track now. I will update more to you later 04:16:06 should be more than 1 person 04:16:07 firstly, we need his acceptance 04:16:28 +1 dan408 04:16:28 no more big news 04:16:35 dan408: we'll have more later. It's necessary to have at least 1. 04:16:46 thanks for the news tuanta. 04:16:56 I think it's safe to let FAmSCo handle it. cwickert is on to it. He'll get it done. 04:16:56 moving to next topic 04:16:57 #topic Review action items from last meeting 04:17:03 cool 04:17:16 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/59 04:18:20 +1 FranciscoD. cwickert is the greatest FAmSCo member up to now 04:18:35 EMEA has caps made, have you spoken with them? NA is getting some from them. 04:18:49 FAmSCo got a lot of stuffs done since he joined 04:19:24 https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/882125_5001417951936_1235139929_o.jpg <-- jreznik rockin it 04:19:38 dan408: not yet. We'll see how to proceed with this. 04:20:15 tuanta: we need estimates on quantity and shipping, as dramsey pointed out on the ticket 04:20:35 for instance, I don't think I'll be doing events here, so I won't take any. 04:20:48 +1 for image :D 04:22:06 :) 04:22:30 we need to take review of quantity for the same 04:22:36 FranciscoD: we need someone voluntarily collect this information 04:22:46 by pushing others 04:23:01 tuanta: I think the person who filed the ticket should do the running around, or trap someone to do it ;) 04:23:04 FranciscoD willing to collect this info? 04:23:17 +1 04:23:34 Not me. I think the newer ones should take up more tasks and get involved, frankly. 04:23:36 bckurera filed it 04:23:53 I can take it :/ 04:24:01 +1 04:24:01 keshavmishra: then take it with a smile ;) 04:24:18 keshavmishra: please assign yourself the task using the command 04:24:19 :)) 04:24:46 :)))) 04:24:57 dan408: that's a lot of chins you have :P 04:25:03 it's beard hair. 04:25:10 stop calling me fat 04:25:20 #action keshavmishra to push people to collect information to update to ticket #59 04:25:28 :) 04:25:36 thanks :) 04:25:45 You can do it! 04:25:57 #action keshavmishra to collect information to update to ticket #59 - number of caps required. 04:26:04 more specific ;) 04:26:21 next ticket? 04:26:25 moving right ahead :) 04:26:27 keshavmishra: hope we will have enough information by the next meeting 04:26:55 #topic http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/fudcon_plan/FUDCon%20organization%20plan.html 04:27:09 yaa sure FranciscoD :) 04:27:19 That doesn't require discussion. We haven't a FUDCon this cycle. 04:27:21 any news on this link FranciscoD ? 04:27:38 We'll use the time to plan the one next for next cycle better, down to each detail. 04:27:40 fine 04:27:44 That's the plan. Let's move on 04:27:54 great 04:28:02 #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/43 04:28:19 same as above 04:29:07 move to next topic then? 04:29:25 correct me if i'm wrong; there won't be APAC FUDCon this year? 04:29:26 regarding fudcon: someone should be sponsored for attendance based on their dedication and work ethic 04:29:32 lovenemesis: nope 04:29:52 dan408: I think someone who'll get some work done at the fudcon is a better candidate 04:29:59 that's what i meant. 04:30:00 FranciscoD: that's good. But we should try that plan framework at the next FUDCon organizing then improve it 04:30:13 dan408: aye 04:30:27 tuanta: maybe we can start having organization meetings already? I see no reason to start it later 04:30:32 The earlier, the better? 04:30:47 what location are is APAC throwing around? 04:30:52 -are 04:31:08 i got an email forwarded by .fas gbraad to see if it's possible to hold one in Beijing 04:31:11 dan408: none for this cycle. We need to start planning for next cycle. 04:31:17 i know 04:31:23 who is planning to host? 04:31:25 lovenemesis: well, he hasn't made a bid, so nothing's official. 04:31:26 lovenemesis: regards to FUDCon APAC this year, we decided not to have one this year. 04:31:37 i.e. ianweller @ university of kanas, fudcon lawrence 2013 04:31:42 however, I am personally trying to get it happen 04:31:53 dan408: for next cycle? Everyone who recalled their bids because they didn't have enough time should be up for it 04:32:02 I contacted to gbraad 04:32:05 +1 04:32:31 he needs to discuss in Fedora China meeting 04:32:59 tuanta: gbraad forward the email to lovenemesis and me for initial discussion. 04:33:02 tuanta: i see 04:33:34 last action "FranciscoD get in touch with asmartgoat, kaio" 04:33:38 tuanta: i guess we should start early for the bid next year this time. :) 04:33:43 think about people from other regions wanting to attend to 04:33:44 too* 04:33:53 any update on this FranciscoD? 04:33:53 i.e. non APAC fedora contributors 04:34:01 keshavmishra: I talked to kaio over the IRC. He pinged me about a new ambassador. 04:34:13 lovenemesis: so you also decided not to bid for this year? 04:34:13 I haven't seem asmartgoat online much 04:34:20 (or at all) 04:34:31 dan408: understand. 04:34:41 lovenemesis: thx 04:34:52 tuanta: If it's too late for 2013, we will bid for 2014. 04:35:11 it's just March 04:35:35 we have enough time for that tuanta 04:36:10 but I can understand, please do not try if you see not ready 04:36:33 so FranciscoD shall we leave the action as it is? 04:36:41 tuanta: fudcon apac should happen before end of May, is it so? 04:36:54 tuanta: my personal feeling is that we had better bid for 2014 04:37:17 still see a good look next year: a lot of committed teams :) 04:37:36 alick: I think we can last to August 04:37:45 B-) 04:37:49 keshavmishra: yes, plesae 04:37:58 I keep forgetting to drop them an email 04:37:58 #action FranciscoD get in touch with asmartgoat, kaio 04:38:31 last action "FAmSCo Help review zerng07's request." 04:38:32 another good news (not official): we may have a super FUDCon (merged EMEA + NA ones) this year 04:38:46 ah, interesting 04:38:49 tuanta: any links? 04:39:07 +1 tuanta 04:39:08 It's mentioned in the last FAmSCo meeting 04:39:47 if so, APAC will have more time to organize our own FUDCon 04:40:08 thats great news indeed 04:40:42 last action "FAmSCo Help review zerng07's request." 04:41:13 any news on this FranciscoD 04:41:27 #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-01-28/famsco.2013-01-28-17.00.log.html 04:41:38 keshavmishra: is there a ticket or something? I'm not sure what the request is 04:42:53 is there any link dramsey? i am not sure if there is any ticket 04:43:06 +1 for the link tuanta 04:43:42 is zerng07 here? 04:43:45 No? 04:43:47 Move to next 04:43:56 #topic APAC Events: plans, status, reports 04:44:31 have we planned any events? 04:44:54 mbuf did his events at Pune. Reports were sent to the Ambassadors list. 04:45:06 I haven't read anything about new event planning. 04:45:20 +1 for mbuf 04:45:58 .fas KageSenshi 04:46:00 FranciscoD: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:46:06 ;) 04:46:14 ;) 04:46:14 keshavmishra: nothing to report I guess, lets move to next 04:46:25 eh .. 04:46:27 xD 04:47:14 #topic open Floor 04:47:29 If no one has any ideas, I have something to discuss here 04:47:35 In the remaining 10 minutes ;) 04:47:48 go FranciscoD 04:47:54 i would like to review a ticket 04:48:01 lovenemesis: go ahead, link please? 04:48:13 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/64 04:49:38 lovenemesis: looks good to me. Can you give me a link to the event report please? 04:49:43 okay 04:49:48 ! 04:49:56 dan408: go ahead 04:50:05 i have seen some apac f18 release parties 04:50:10 :D 04:50:13 \o/ 04:50:13 * FranciscoD would like to point out that the ticket should be filed *before* the event 04:50:14 what are you all using for media? as there is no official f18 media yet 04:50:18 FranciscoD: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/chinese/2012-December/thread.html#10836 04:50:26 link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/69 04:50:35 FranciscoD look at it please 04:50:38 lovenemesis: would like to point out that the ticket should be filed *before* the event 04:50:51 even report for fadkl last week till otw .. waiting for mavjs :P 04:51:03 keshavmishra: nice! 04:51:08 lovenemesis: is it all in Chinese? :( 04:51:27 We'd like some even reports in English on the planet, so the community can see what went on 04:51:44 +1 FranciscoD 04:51:50 FranciscoD: Fully understand. It's a mistake 04:51:51 lovenemesis: I'm okay with the funding, but, as per the guidelines, you should really get it all approved before spending 04:52:06 famsco is not happy with tickets that weren't approved before the event, and it makes sense 04:52:18 FranciscoD: There's a English one 04:52:32 lovenemesis: please add the link to the trac ticket. 04:52:37 #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2013-January/020822.html 04:52:45 I think it is this one. ;) 04:52:51 Please also request fedora China to ensure that the event reports show up on the planet 04:53:24 alick: is this the one you requested reimbursements for? 04:53:27 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/69 04:53:37 FranciscoD: yes the same event. 04:53:45 alick: okay, great 04:53:58 FranciscoD: by planet you mean fedoracommunity.org page? 04:54:13 FranciscoD: It should be there already 04:54:14 alick: any website that has a feed on to planet.fedoraproject.org 04:54:32 FranciscoD: I linked my blog linuxtoy.org to planet 04:54:35 +1 lovenemesis 04:54:51 lovenemesis: I'm okay with the funding. I'll leave my comment. Please just ensure that you file tickets before the event next time as per the reimbursement guidelines. 04:55:16 FranciscoD: thanks you. I will take a note of that 04:56:00 btw .. i'm thinking of applying for some funds to stock up fedora.my swags xD .. we ran out of our badges last week .. 04:56:28 and rh-sg swags we usually get from singapore tend to be rh-centric xD .. 04:56:46 Fedora power! 04:57:13 KageSenshi: you know the drill :) 04:57:17 projected cost would be around 150usd-200usd .. 250 at most .. :) 04:57:28 KageSenshi: if you accept the credit card responsibilities, it'll be quicker for you too :P 04:57:32 hahaha 04:57:32 xD 04:57:37 +1 04:57:38 hahahaha... 04:57:43 as keshavmishra pointed out: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/69 04:57:46 :p 04:57:50 that .. we discuss on monday :P .. i want to see the rules+responsibilities list first :P 04:57:56 I'm a big +1 for this. mbuf does his events regularly. We should support him. 04:58:07 KageSenshi: yes, we'll keep a special eye on you ;) 04:58:17 +1 from my side too :) 04:58:26 dramsey: KageSenshi tuanta keshavmishra lovenemesis alick : please vote for ticket 69 04:58:46 +1 04:58:49 +1 04:59:45 alick: can I request you to have an english translation of this please? http://linuxtoy.org/archives/fedora-18-release-party-event-report.html ? 04:59:55 ! 05:00:06 go ahead tuanta 05:00:08 (it'll just be easier for the english speaking folks to see what great work you did) 05:00:12 one problem here: 05:00:13 alick: lovenemesis ^ 05:00:15 +1 for ticket 69 05:00:21 +1 05:00:25 We can do it! 05:00:40 FranciscoD: I will try 05:00:44 we do not have permissions to decide to support a FAD or not 05:00:45 FranciscoD: I have sent an English version to mailing list. Let me find it for u 05:00:47 FranciscoD: after discussing with lovenemesis 05:01:05 FAD is a premier event 05:01:09 FranciscoD: i do link my personal blog to planet 05:01:14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Premier_Fedora_Events 05:01:17 tuanta: ah, yes. 05:01:38 tuanta: who decides the funding then? He needs to talk to famsco and FPL, right? 05:01:51 lovenemesis: I give the link in ambassador list just now 05:02:02 +1 on ticket 69 05:02:09 FranciscoD: actually, the process is not clear enough up to now 05:02:43 tuanta: well, how about I comment saying we're okay with it, but we cannot really provide funding for premier events out of our budget 05:02:44 I suggest not to name an event as a FAD if not needed 05:02:52 yes, I can suggest that in the ticket. 05:03:08 does that seem okay? 05:04:06 for easier life, just change the event name first 05:04:54 tuanta: okay, I'll comment on the ticket 05:05:12 good 05:05:22 #action FranciscoD request mbuf to rename the event if possible so it can be paid out of the ambassadors fund and not premier events' fund. 05:05:33 Behold the Fedora energy! 05:05:48 as we see on the event wiki, the event is not a real FAD so I think rename it is not a big problem 05:06:03 lovenemesis: what's the attachment to your ticket? Generally, tickets + boarding passes + receipts + anything else you can put up 05:06:38 lovenemesis: for example, your ticket has the word "VOID" on it. What does that mean? 05:06:47 tuanta: alright, I'll do this. 05:06:51 Any other tickets? 05:06:56 FranciscoD: I have attached the scanned 05:07:01 Othewise we can call it a day, we're over time. 05:07:14 how about this one: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/68 05:07:29 reported by kushal 05:07:39 what about the videos discussion or shall we leave it for the mailing lists ?? 05:07:40 were all these in the ticket list, I wonder why they weren't discussed earlier, rather than now in open floor? 05:07:56 thank you guys had to handle a production incident here 05:07:56 keshavmishra: videos is a marketing initiative rather than ambassadors 05:09:01 tuanta: that's quite a lot of money 05:09:20 As you've already pointed out, we cannot authorize it 05:09:51 its beyound the reach of apac budget 05:09:57 FranciscoD: VOID? Do you mean 网? that means "orded online", or "空", which means "With Air Conditioner" 05:10:21 FranciscoD: he finally request for support just $600 05:10:28 I think we should ask famsco to decide this one. Keeping kushals contributions in mind, it should be okay. (but I'm not sure what he's been upto lately from a fedora POV) 05:10:34 so it's in our range 05:10:37 tuanta: isn't our limit 400? 05:10:57 $300-1000 USD = The request requires approval from the appropriate regional community (APAC, EMEA, LATAM, or NA) 05:10:58 At least five (5) individual FAm votes required at APAC FAm Bi-Weekly meeting 05:11:08 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement 05:11:16 FranciscoD: here's the report i sent to mailing list http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2013-January/020822.html 05:12:10 tuanta: How long is pycon? 11 nights? 05:12:24 thats almost 2 weeks? 05:12:44 it's better if kushal is here 05:13:02 tuanta: its 3 nights according to this: https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/talks/ ? 05:13:06 I think we should delay this discussion next meeting 05:13:27 yes and request kushal's presence if possible. I'll go see if I can find more info on the schedule 05:13:36 yes, 05:13:38 pycons are generally 2-3 days from what I know 05:14:06 tuanta: its from 13-21, so 9 nights 05:14:06 #info keep #68 to the next meeting and request kushal's presence 05:14:21 https://us.pycon.org/2013/ 05:14:52 +1 from me, but I'd still want famsco to at least have a look. 05:14:53 any more tickets?? 05:15:09 tuanta: if its development, it isn't an ambassador activity for example 05:15:28 thats a point 05:15:36 FranciscoD: you are true 05:16:21 it's still a +1 for me. Kushal is a fedora community member. His participation in devel also spreads the fedora name. 05:16:44 +1 from my side too 05:16:48 tuanta: we havne't really any guidelines for what kind of conferences we fund people, do we? 05:17:20 We say "events". Compared to release parties, I'm more inclined to fund this one where there's work being done? 05:17:31 AFAIK, there is not that kind of guidelines 05:18:02 tuanta: does FESCo have a budget for developers for example? I don't think so? 05:18:26 I have not heard anything like that :) 05:18:53 Me, too 05:19:11 okay, I'll comment on the ticket as a +1. Please ask famsco to take a look if you can tuanta 05:19:20 +1 05:19:42 +1 05:19:51 +1 05:20:02 tuanta: what do I do about lovenemesis's ticket? Assign it to jsimon? 05:20:41 FranciscoD: I will push kushal's ticket to discuss in FAmSCo 05:20:57 lovenemesis: I'm not sure if western union money transfer is an accepted method. I recall something in kital's mail to the ambassadors list. 05:21:12 Can you please double check lovenemesis and use a method that he can use? 05:21:39 and: yes, assign lovenemesis's ticket to jsimon 05:21:53 tuanta: lovenemesis "The Community Credit Card can book your travel or accomodation, 05:21:56 reimburse you via paypal and pay for you in a webshop. We can not do 05:21:59 wire transfers by western union or bank transfer. 05:22:00 from kital's mail. 05:22:02 " 05:22:14 FranciscoD: ok, how about PayPal? 05:22:21 that should work. 05:22:40 Then I will leave my PayPal info on ticket 05:23:04 +1 lovenemesis 05:23:41 are we done discussing the trac tickets in open floor? 05:23:44 XD 05:24:22 keshavmishra: I'm done :) 05:24:25 Yep. Lets move/close if there's nothing else 05:24:49 closing the meeting 05:24:50 in 05:24:52 5 05:24:53 lovenemesis: you should not put the full email address to the ticket. It would be truncated. 05:24:54 4.5 05:24:58 4 05:25:02 +1 05:25:03 3.5 05:25:07 3 05:25:10 2.5 05:25:12 2 05:25:16 1.5 05:25:17 \o\ /o/ \o/ 05:25:17 1 05:25:21 .5 05:25:24 .25 05:25:25 .12 05:25:28 XD 05:25:35 #endmeeting