06:01:18 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n 06:01:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 7 06:01:18 2013 UTC. The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:01:18 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:01:19 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n 06:01:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:01:20 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call 06:01:20 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-03-07 06:01:31 <tagoh_> okay, shall we have i18n meeting 06:02:52 * justiceh im here 06:03:09 <dueno> hi 06:03:43 <dan408> hi tagoh_ and friends 06:04:25 <tagoh_> dan408: hi 06:05:10 <dan408> tagoh_: jsut here to say hi and say +1 06:05:35 <tagoh_> :) 06:05:53 <justiceh> im a rookie in QA so here to watch and maybe give my opinion if convenient for the subject at hand 06:06:05 <epico> hi 06:06:16 <tagoh_> justiceh: cool 06:06:20 <tagoh_> okay, let's get started. 06:06:25 <fujiwarat> hi 06:06:35 <mfabian> hi 06:06:35 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:06:36 <tagoh_> #info 2013-03-12 Feature Freeze--Planning & Development Ends 06:06:36 <tagoh_> #info 2013-03-12 Branch Fedora 19 from Rawhide 06:06:36 <tagoh_> #info 2013-04-02 Branch Freeze 06:06:37 <tagoh_> #info 2013-04-02 Software String Freeze 06:06:37 <tagoh_> #info 2013-04-02 Alpha Change Deadline 06:06:52 <tagoh_> well, feature freeze is coming next Tuesday. 06:07:54 <tagoh_> will catch up later on for our feature though, good to keep it in mind 06:08:13 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics 06:08:13 <tagoh_> #info #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day (tagoh) 06:08:14 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16 06:09:06 <tagoh_> updated draft is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tagoh/Draft/I18n_Test_Day 06:09:58 <tagoh_> since test cases can be referred from bodhi, having result section in test cases may be noisy. so I've changed it to have separate pages for result only. 06:10:52 <pravins> hi 06:10:58 <paragan> hi 06:11:18 <tagoh_> dunno how many traffic is there though, having separate pages per test cases may be too many. so I'd try to split up against some categories this time and see how it works. 06:11:40 <tagoh_> we can improve it in f19+ if it still has an issue. 06:11:46 <tagoh_> any comments? 06:12:02 <justiceh> i agree on categories 06:13:15 <justiceh> easier to sort out.. even regardless of the traffic imo 06:13:45 <tagoh_> yep 06:14:21 <tagoh_> any other comments? :) if no more, I'll update the i18n test day page with this idea. 06:16:51 <tagoh_> okay, will do it that way. 06:17:12 <tagoh_> #action tagoh_ to update the i18n test day page according to the draft 06:17:33 <tagoh_> #info #18: F19 i18n docbeats (tagoh) 06:17:34 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/18 06:18:56 <tagoh_> not yet reflecting an idea from last meeting to docbeats 06:19:31 <tagoh_> is there anything else we are planning to update/improve since f18 and worth mentioning in relnotes? 06:20:03 <tagoh_> how about input methods? and fonts? 06:20:59 <justiceh> fonts definatly, and I hear from a friend in fedora-fr IRC that the input methods are being worked in if im correct 06:21:15 <justiceh> worked on* 06:21:32 <tagoh_> aha 06:22:15 <tagoh_> pravins: is there anything from you? :) 06:22:49 <tagoh_> fujiwarat: how about ibus? 06:23:06 <pravins> tagoh_: nothing today :) 06:24:09 <tagoh_> maybe good to check GNOME's feature page though, if they don't take care of any, maybe good to add something improved in 3.8. 06:24:25 <tagoh_> about input methods 06:24:50 <tagoh_> pravins: so no major updates in Lohit nor Liberation this time right? 06:25:16 <tagoh_> I should add something about fonts-tweak-tool to relnotes maybe. 06:25:48 <fujiwarat> Recently I implemented use-system-keyboard property for ibus 1.5 and currently I'm working on launching the second engine before typing ctrl+space. 06:26:56 <epico> cool 06:27:14 <mfabian> fujiwarat: By the way, what does “use-system-keyboard” do? I am a bit confused about the meaning of this option. 06:27:46 <tagoh_> fujiwarat: aha. if you think it's worth adding into relnotes, feel free to add it. once all proposals are there, we can review it and polish before pushing. 06:28:18 <fujiwarat> mfabian: It means not to run setxkbmap for both xkb and input method engines in ibus-ui-gtk3. 06:28:58 <pravins> tagoh_: Lohit kannada has major enhancements 06:29:00 <mfabian> Does that mean that the keyboard layout is not changed when switching engines? That would be nice for me. 06:29:11 <pravins> I was planning for having Latin shapes in Lohit but still no improvement on that line 06:29:25 <fujiwarat> mfabian: yes. 06:29:56 <tagoh_> pravins: aha. do you want to add it to relnotes? if yes, please do. 06:30:04 <mfabian> Ah, good, in f18 I had some problems with ibus always overwriting my own keyboard layout, so your option will help there, thank you! 06:30:22 <pravins> tagoh_: yes, definitely i will update it 06:30:29 <tagoh_> cool 06:30:46 <fujiwarat> mfabian: btw, it's for ibus-ui-gtk3 but not gnome-shell. 06:31:09 <mfabian> That means it works in non-Gnome desktops, right? 06:31:16 <tagoh_> any volunteers about tw btw? 06:31:40 <justiceh> mfabian, yes 06:31:57 <fujiwarat> mfabian: Right. I'm not sure if gnome can agree with the similar implementation. 06:33:36 <fujiwarat> If users wish to switch a custom layout and an xkb engine, another fix would be needed: 06:33:42 <fujiwarat> https://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1598 06:34:10 <fujiwarat> But currently we think use-system-keyboard property would be enough. 06:35:28 <tagoh_> anything else? 06:36:52 <tagoh_> we still have a time to think about what should be mentioned in relnotes. feel free to add later on if you think it would be good. 06:37:39 <tagoh_> let's move on 06:37:55 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding task 06:37:55 <tagoh_> #info #15: F19 Feature: libkkc (ueno) 06:37:55 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/15 06:38:23 <tagoh_> dueno: can you update the feature page please? 06:38:32 <tagoh_> if you made some progress 06:39:22 <dueno> sure, will update progress to 90% or so 06:39:58 <dueno> I think only UI is left unfinished (except minor tuning) 06:39:59 <tagoh_> I guess this feature is testable now as the package is also available in f18 too so I'm not so concerned about schedule so far. 06:40:14 <tagoh_> sure 06:41:47 <tagoh_> dueno: maybe good to create a test case for test day too. 06:42:09 <dueno> sure, will do 06:42:14 <tagoh_> thanks! 06:43:01 <tagoh_> dueno: anything else about kkc? 06:43:26 <anish_> hi 06:44:54 <dueno> tagoh_, that's all, thanks for reminding 06:45:17 <tagoh_> okay, thanks 06:45:26 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor 06:45:43 <tagoh_> anything else we want to discuss before closing this meeting? 06:47:21 <justiceh> tagoh_, would you like me to confirm what going on with the input methods with my friend on fedora-fr ?? he's been working on a project i could ask for more precisions maybe 06:48:53 <tagoh_> justiceh: what's that issue? 06:50:40 <justiceh> im not exactly sure on what he is working but i know it involves the input methods in 3.8... other than that i dont know where is work got him.. i could just ask for more infos on that and maybe it could help on this side of things.. like mentionned in topic #1 of today's meeting 06:51:37 <tagoh_> if it's related to ibus, fujiwarat might helps him. 06:52:39 <justiceh> he might like the input ill make sure he get the fujiwarat 's contact info .. i believe it is related to ibus 06:54:19 <tagoh_> okay 06:54:42 <justiceh> sorry i cant give more info right now just felt like i should mention it 06:54:56 <justiceh> i dont have anything else tagoh_ 06:56:23 <tagoh_> sure. maybe good to try catching us up on #fedora-i18n. I can help if it's something I can do. 06:57:16 <justiceh> will do 06:57:42 <tagoh_> if no more topics to discuss, let's stop here then. 06:59:54 <tagoh_> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting! 07:00:00 <tagoh_> #endmeeting