15:03:02 #startmeeting kde-sig 15:03:02 Meeting started Tue Apr 2 15:03:02 2013 UTC. The chair is rdieter. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:03:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:03:04 #meetingname kde-sig 15:03:04 The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig' 15:03:11 #topic roll call 15:03:23 hello everyone, who's present today? 15:03:53 * dvratil waves 15:03:58 hi 15:03:58 present 15:04:04 Present. 15:04:11 * ltinkl is here 15:04:27 present 15:04:32 * jreznik is here and there 15:04:44 #info rdieter dvratil mbriza jgrulich Kevin_Kofler ltinkl than jreznik present 15:04:53 #chair dvratil mbriza jgrulich Kevin_Kofler ltinkl than jreznik 15:04:53 Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dvratil jgrulich jreznik ltinkl mbriza rdieter than 15:05:12 #topic agenda 15:05:41 alrighty, what to discuss today? previous suggestions include: kde-4.10.2 status, f19-alpha status, anything else? 15:06:17 ok for me 15:07:39 ok, let's go then 15:07:43 #topic kde-4.10.2 status 15:08:24 I got most of 4.10.2 done over the past few days, than just got kde-l10n in rawhide (i missed that, thanks) 15:09:07 starting in on f19 builds now, and will do f18/f17 afterward (and el6 ones on the side) 15:09:44 prepped a f19-kde koji tag/target for this (since alpha freeze just hit) 15:09:59 that's all I've got, any comments, questions, flames? 15:10:18 Good work, thanks (also to than for kde-l10n)! 15:11:04 cool guys! 15:11:10 Kevin_Kofler, rdieter: np :) 15:11:15 * jreznik saw the upload flood in his mailbox 15:11:57 koji seems broken atm 15:12:35 i got "BuildrootError: could not init mock buildroot" 15:13:14 yeah, :( rawhide/f20 at least, maybe even f19 too (just had a f19 scratch build fail on me) 15:13:33 f19-kde target builds seem ok so far *fingers crossed* 15:14:01 i think i recall mention of something in #fedora-devel earlier 15:14:22 it's being worked on. Sorry for the trouble. 15:14:53 nirik: ok, as long as there's light at the end of the tunnel 15:15:00 nirik: thanks for the info 15:15:04 yeah. Hopefully it's not a train. ;) 15:15:04 anything else wrt 4.10.2 ? 15:15:24 :D 15:15:54 nirik: do you know what repos/targets the problem affects? everything? some subset? 15:16:49 i guess it doesn't matter, stuff either works or it doesn't, and we'll find out soon enough 15:17:01 moving on to f19-alpha... 15:17:11 #topic f19 alpha status 15:17:47 mbriza: what't the state of F19 Alpha theming? 15:17:54 so, 2 issues for f19-alpha I'm aware of: theming (mbriza, thanks!) 15:17:59 .bug 928303 15:18:02 jreznik: Bug 928303 F19 KDE contains F18 artwork - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928303 15:18:08 yeah, i wanted to ask, too 15:18:26 there were some concerns in the weekend and i'm afraid i didn't understand what doesn't work 15:18:44 jreznik: the new theming should be in now 15:18:57 there was 1 bug wrt wallpaper not working, but I think I figured out the cause of that yesterday 15:19:29 mbriza: ^^ that's not fixed yet, is it? 15:19:44 i don't think so 15:20:09 ok, so the bug could be set to modified 15:20:19 iirc, the fix was relatively simple. I can do it after meeting, if no one beats me to it 15:20:38 the plasma theme metadata.desktop file referenced .png instead of .jpg 15:20:46 so if it's only the wallpaper, i'll fix it in the morning - i don't have my certificates to access the repositories with me right now 15:21:18 mbriza: ok, great. need to submit updates via bodhi now 15:21:37 jreznik: I suppose we need a bug to track it, and it be an alpha blocker before it can be pulled in now? 15:21:53 or we can recycle 928303 ? :) 15:22:08 rdieter: yes, you can recycle that one, reassign it to the right component 15:22:15 I think we need a different bug for this, but I don't think it'll be considered a blocker. 15:22:22 Freeze Exception (NTH) at best. 15:22:42 whatever term is needed to get it pulled in. :) 15:22:54 There are no criteria requiring Alpha to have a working wallpaper. 15:23:04 I'm not sure that is even a criterion for Final, unfortunately. 15:23:16 Kevin_Kofler: there are "The default desktop background must be different from that of the two previous stable releases" 15:23:37 Yes, but we didn't ship F17 nor F18 with a blank background. ;-) 15:24:19 Schrödinger's Background: It's both present and not present. ;-) 15:24:24 lol 15:24:31 :) 15:25:03 * rdieter updated bug 15:26:05 gosh I had a 2nd item in mind I was going to mention, and now I can't remember. :-/ 15:26:21 rdieter: thanks 15:26:36 ah, kdenetwork. prior to kdenetwork-4.10.2-1 , it had been FTBFS 15:27:13 so f19 still has kdenetwork-4.10.0-2.fc19 15:27:26 the last one that built ok, before it broke 15:27:47 imo, probably not worth worrying or doing anything about 15:27:52 just thought I'd mention it 15:27:53 Yeah, not a blocker. 15:28:16 Old kdenetwork + new kdelibs should work fine, and we're already about to build 4.10.2. 15:28:46 We could build a fixed 4.10.1 build in principle, but I don't think it'd qualify as a Freeze Exception, so it'd be a waste of time. 15:28:50 rdieter: yes, it's not worth fixing in 4.10.1 15:29:02 we are geting 4.10.2 in f19 15:29:04 agreed 15:29:14 so, anything else wrt f19 or f19-alpha ? 15:29:35 testing ;-) 15:30:11 indeed, i'd fetched TC3, but hadn't had a chance to try it out much yet. 15:30:27 so please guys, try to run it - there are still some issues with a new initial-setup (and overall confusion regarding gnome-initial-setup, initial-setup, anaconda initial-setup, firtsboot - fun) 15:30:34 did do TC2, and it seems mostly ok, if I ignored the bloat. :) 15:30:48 jreznik: oh joy, noted. 15:30:50 i'm running f19 on my desktop here at college and it seems fine so far 15:30:52 There are some KDE 3 legacy packages affected by the autotools aarch64 issue, I fixed the main ones (the ones which already used make cvs, I fixed the admin/cvs.sh script to pass --force-missing to automake), but there are some others. I'll fix them ASAP, but not for the Alpha. 15:31:06 (At least, I'll fix the ones I maintain or comaintain.) 15:31:35 Thankfully, KDE 4 does not use those autotools anymore, so it works on new architectures out of the box. :-) 15:32:09 Kevin_Kofler: thanks for fixes in kde3 stuff! 15:34:10 moving on... 15:34:17 #topic open discussion 15:34:22 anything else for today? 15:36:48 * jreznik had something on mind before but forget... 15:37:57 oh well, holler in #fedora-kde later if it comes back to mind 15:38:20 otherwise, yay, short meeting, thanks everyone. 15:38:24 #endmeeting