15:01:29 #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 15:01:29 Meeting started Mon Apr 8 15:01:29 2013 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:33 #meetingname fedora-qa 15:01:33 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:01:40 #topic roll call 15:01:42 morning folks 15:01:47 * nirik is lurking. 15:01:49 * satellit listening 15:01:52 * kparal cheers 15:01:54 * mkrizek is here 15:02:14 * brunowolff is here 15:02:20 * jskladan tips his hat 15:03:02 * j_dulaney sets down the banjo 15:03:11 * tflink is present 15:03:21 * jreznik is here 15:03:24 * pschindl is here 15:03:28 morning adamw! 15:03:38 wow, guess i can't sleep through this one huh 15:04:36 #topic Fedora 19 Alpha status 15:05:00 so, everybody touch wood, but we're actually looking pretty good 15:05:09 #info current blocker list: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/19/alpha/buglist 15:05:16 * j_dulaney doesn't have any wood around. 15:05:57 there's only three proposed blockers (which don't look likely to be accepted) and two possible issues in the accepted blockers 15:06:37 we were able to figure out initial-setup one in the morning 15:07:24 right - this is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=929403 , it was 'fixed' but the fix was incorrect 15:07:29 we're currently getting the fix corrected 15:07:39 it has to be verified now 15:07:41 then there's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928279 , it looks like some progress has been made there 15:08:25 we have at least a clue and also - it was moved from F15 beta blocker to NTH that time and we have several workarounds... 15:08:45 I'm not sure how to fix properly... the second option should be doable 15:09:07 yeah, we can re-discuss it at the blocker meeting and see if we want to drop blocker status 15:09:26 #info 929403 and 928279 are known to be 'outstanding' blockers 15:09:52 dgilmore is out today unfortunately so we may have to wait till tomorrow for a compose 15:10:03 #info dgilmore is out today, may not be able to get next compose until tomorrow 15:10:39 * jreznik is not sure pbabinca would be able to create compose, could ask (in case we would need it) 15:11:04 nirik is usually the backup 15:11:14 * nirik could try if need be 15:11:33 It's not good that only one person is trusted (in the knows what to do sense) to do composes. 15:11:38 adamw: yep I know, the idea is that palo could help us in out timezone too (to make the process faster when needed) 15:11:42 * nirik has access and can do them 15:11:50 ah 15:11:59 so, looking at test coverage, we're not looking too bad 15:12:18 we could do with testing some USB installs to bare metal, and UEFI too 15:13:12 * j_dulaney will work on the USB 15:13:21 * satellit need someone else to try bare metal USB install and confirm what I saw 15:13:32 yeah, i suspect that'll be just your system' 15:13:52 well, I had issues with a dd'ed usb stick the only time i tried now i come to think of it, so maybe not. but litd worked okay. 15:14:00 * satellit always worked before 15:14:34 okay 15:14:38 * j_dulaney had no problem the last time he tested dd live to USB 15:14:48 we only need either dd or litd to work at alpha though, so even if dd is busted it's not a disaster. but it'd be good to check 15:15:05 * j_dulaney is dding even now 15:15:32 it doesn't look like we need karma for any of the testing fixes except https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 (which should probably go along with a systemd build) and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 (we're waiting for a compose to test that one) 15:15:45 i suppose we really should get a compose done with libreport in it to make sure that fix works... 15:15:57 #info karma needed for https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.1.3-2.fc19 15:16:13 * satellit did netinstall of cinnamon 1 hr ago saw initial-setup on reboot 15:16:27 satellit: but with improper fix 15:17:10 (actually I'd argue it wasn't as bad as 3/4 of services are still using the F17 way...) 15:17:35 jreznik: well the biggest problem was that it didn't conditionalize the service enablement to happen only on first install 15:17:38 also I should ask FPC to make the new "enabled by default" way more visible in the guidelines 15:17:45 but anyhoo. 15:18:45 adamw: it's just a bad time for initial setup handover to vratislav, especially as it's a completely new software... :( 15:19:56 jreznik: can you ask vpodzime to edit the new systemd build into the initial-setup update? 15:20:09 so, add systemd-200-4.fc19 to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initial-setup-0.3.4-3.fc19 15:20:42 adamw: sure, I was thinking about it but guys were faster than me 15:20:46 =) 15:20:47 okay 15:20:58 does anyone have anything else on 19 Alpha? any significant issues we're not considering? 15:21:20 hmm, he already left 15:22:03 adamw: do you have rights to do it in bodhi? actually I think I could do it too... 15:22:25 i don't have superpowers in bodhi, but nirik could if need be 15:22:45 * nirik nods. just let me know what you need. 15:23:17 I'm doing a f19-updates-testing push right now, can edit after that 15:23:18 for Alpha - Go/No-Go is currently scheduled on Apr 11 17:00 UTC (about to send reminder), Readiness meeting on the same day, two hours later - 19:00 UTC 15:23:23 nirik: thanks 15:24:12 #info go/no-go is scheduled for Thursday at 17:00 UTC 15:24:25 #topic Test Days 15:24:35 looks like we're short a martix 15:25:16 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-02_OpenStack and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-04_Printing both went ahead last week, some decent involvement in the printing test day 15:25:35 and good lord, i need to design some sort of autocannon system for people who write essays in the margin notes 15:25:43 I'm building LiveCDs for this week's test day 15:26:20 * j_dulaney tried with openstack; it kept borking, so gave up 15:27:47 did you report how it borked? 15:29:13 * j_dulaney did 15:29:39 yay! 15:29:47 then all went according to plan. 15:30:07 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) is coming up on Thursday, kparal is preparing live images 15:30:11 #chair jreznik kparal 15:30:12 Current chairs: adamw jreznik kparal 15:30:37 the test day page is in order, l10n/i18n folks have their own setup 15:32:28 anything else on test days? 15:34:46 i guess not! 15:34:49 #topic open floor 15:34:54 that's all we have for the agenda 15:34:58 anything else t odiscuss? 15:35:38 .bacon 15:35:38 I love bacon, you love bacon, WE ALL LOVE BACON!! (except for NiveusLuna, who was tragically attacked by bacon as a child.) 15:36:02 spam 'n' eggs? 15:36:06 blocker review meeting @ 16:00 UTC 15:36:08 #info there is general approval of bacon 15:36:17 -1 15:36:22 yeah, we're following up with a blocker review meeting in #fedora-blocker-review 15:36:24 .fire tflink 15:36:24 adamw fires tflink 15:36:30 #info tflink was fired for disapproving of bacon 15:36:52 * tflink will never understand the obsession with bacon 15:37:32 Bacon == life 15:37:34 THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, FLINK 15:37:49 the last time I ate bacon, I was sick for the rest of the day 15:38:07 oh well, to each their own 15:38:12 tflink: your lack of faith in bacon is disturbing 15:38:53 * jreznik is getting hungry! 15:39:36 misc: more disturbing than bacon flavored for the potty-mouthed bacon lover (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/da14/)? 15:39:44 bacon flavored soap 15:39:46 alrighty, let's give everyone 20 minutes to go and eat some bacon 15:40:01 then we re-convene in #fedora-blocker-review to blow through the blocker list 15:40:03 .moar bacon adamw 15:40:03 here adamw, have some more bacon 15:40:37 thanks for coming, folks 15:40:39 #endmeeting