18:03:54 <jforbes> #startmeeting fedora-kernel
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18:04:11 <jforbes> #topic who's here
18:04:24 <davej> holla
18:04:39 * nirik is lurking around.
18:05:18 * brunowolff is here
18:05:25 <jforbes> Okay for the moment, I think it is best to break the current status into 2 sections since we are running 2 kernels basically
18:05:34 <jforbes> #Topic Fedora 17/18
18:05:39 <jforbes> davej: want to take this one?
18:05:45 <davej> makes sense. also jwb isn't around right now
18:06:03 <davej> so we've got 17 and 18 rebased to 3.8.8 which is current
18:06:30 <davej> usual stuff with bug back log etc..  though I think we may have had a breakthrough on some of the more obscure weird bugs lately
18:07:09 <davej> a pattern emerged that a lot of them were on cheap laptops with dual/tri/quad cores. Acers, HPs etc
18:07:23 <davej> unsure at this time if they're just thermal problems from poor design
18:07:33 <davej> hoping to get a hold of some sample laptops to test with soon
18:07:58 <jforbes> I am guessing if thermal or design problems we will need to actually put a load on them for testing
18:08:05 <davej> yeah
18:08:16 <nirik> sounds nasty. ;(
18:08:23 <davej> if that turns out to be the case we can maybe work around it by disabling higher p-states or something. we'll see.
18:08:55 <jforbes> At least it's moving in the right direction.
18:09:00 <davej> that's about it right now for 17/18 though I think  (little distracted by the days events, so my memory is a bit fuzzy right now)
18:09:24 <jforbes> No problem, hope things settle soon
18:09:32 <jforbes> #topic F19/rawhide
18:09:55 * nirik hasnt hit any new issues recently at all.
18:09:58 <jforbes> Fedora 19 alpha was approved yesterday on the rc6 kernel (which is a debug build)
18:10:27 <nirik> I of course still have my sound issue that I keep not getting time to go provide debug info to the hda_intel maintainer. ;(
18:10:39 <jforbes> Last night I pushed the first rc7 to updates-testing with debug turned off.  I expect 3.9 proper will be released this weekend
18:11:39 <jforbes> Once 3.9 is actually out, and rawhide/F19 start to diverge more, I will move F19 to use the 301 series release numbers to preserve upgrade path
18:12:25 <jforbes> There have not been a ton of new issues with the 3.9 series, it has been one of the more quiet releases in a while
18:12:41 <jforbes> Anyone else have anything on 19/rawhide?
18:13:19 <davej> there's the mac thing. which is in limbo
18:13:28 <davej> until someone starts poking at it next week maybe
18:14:01 <jforbes> right, things aren't working on mac hardware.  It is known, but it will be next week before anyone can take a look
18:14:14 <jforbes> #open floor
18:14:19 <jforbes> #topic open floor
18:14:30 <jforbes> Okay, anyone have anything else they want to bring up?
18:16:11 <jforbes> Okay going to close out then, thanks for coming
18:16:26 <jforbes> #endmeeting