06:02:57 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n 06:02:57 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 2 06:02:57 2013 UTC. The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:02:57 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:02:57 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n 06:02:57 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:02:58 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call 06:02:58 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-05-02 06:03:06 <tagoh_> okay, shall we have i18n meeting 06:03:06 <epico> hi 06:03:13 <dueno> hi 06:05:55 <pravins> hi 06:06:09 <paragan> hi 06:07:21 <tagoh_> okay, let's get started 06:07:37 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:07:38 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-02 Test_Day:2013-05-02_Localization_(i18n) 06:07:39 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-06 Wiki Freeze: Beta Release Notes 06:07:39 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-07 Software Translation Deadline 06:07:40 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-14 Beta Change Deadline 06:07:41 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-14 Features 100% Complete 06:07:42 <tagoh_> #info 2013-05-28 Beta Release 06:08:13 <tagoh_> i18n test day is ongoing finally. 06:09:01 <pravins> yeah :) 06:09:16 <tagoh_> please make sure by yourself again if all of test cases are applicable and works for your language 06:09:27 <tagoh_> and update test cases as needed 06:10:14 <tagoh_> wish a lot of people including you will join this time. 06:11:33 <tagoh_> aside from that, docbeats due date for beta is coming soon 06:11:52 <tagoh_> next Monday if no changes in schedule 06:12:17 <tagoh_> will catch up in later topic anyway 06:12:42 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics 06:12:43 <tagoh_> #info #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day (tagoh) 06:12:43 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16 06:13:04 <tagoh_> so anyone else noticed anything about i18n test day so far? 06:15:46 <juhp> (hi) 06:15:47 <tagoh_> or no one is yet trying? ;) 06:16:14 <pravins> tagoh_: me reported one bug also against yum-langpacks ;) 06:16:30 <tagoh_> pravins: cool 06:18:15 <tagoh_> pravins: bug#? 06:18:37 <pravins> .bug 958630 06:18:39 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 958630 langinstall should install lang support for only installed packages - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958630 06:20:57 <tagoh_> is it all? but not pulling in by deps for libreoffice? 06:21:28 <pravins> it is pulling libreoffice for libreoffice-hi package 06:21:37 <pravins> tagoh_: yes 06:22:20 <tagoh_> ah, okay. for installed packages 06:22:22 <tagoh_> hmm 06:22:28 <pravins> tagoh_: yeah. 06:23:03 <pravins> say if "x" language has -"x" packages for all fedora packages existing in repository 06:23:22 <pravins> $yum langinstall "x" will install all fedora repository 06:23:42 <pravins> that is not expected 06:23:45 <tagoh_> only libreoffice this time? 06:24:16 <pravins> yeah for -hi only libreoffice i saw, firefox was already installed 06:24:38 <tagoh_> let me check for ja when testing yum-langpacks then 06:24:49 <pravins> tagoh_: sure 06:24:51 <tagoh_> thanks for sharing 06:24:57 <pravins> welcome :) 06:24:58 <tagoh_> anything else? 06:25:33 <juhp> hmm 06:25:49 <juhp> brb - need some power 06:28:44 <tagoh_> okay, if not, let's move on. will keep open this ticket one week and review the result in next meeting. 06:29:22 <tagoh_> #info #18: F19 i18n docbeats (tagoh) 06:29:22 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/18 06:29:30 <tagoh_> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 06:30:29 <tagoh_> fujiwarat: thanks for updating. is it everything for changes between 1.5.0 and 1.5.2? 06:31:05 <fujiwarat> tagoh_: I think so. 06:31:10 <tagoh_> okay 06:32:51 <tagoh_> anything else we should mention in relnotes? 06:33:21 <dueno> perhaps ibus-bogo should be mentioned there 06:33:36 <dueno> tuanta, ^ ? 06:33:45 <tagoh_> aha. what's that? 06:34:02 <tuanta> hi 06:34:11 <tuanta> hi dueno et all 06:34:27 <tuanta> ah, i18n meeting? 06:34:34 <tagoh_> yes 06:34:45 <tuanta> unfortunately, I have to go out now 06:34:47 <tagoh_> aha. Vietnamese engine 06:34:58 <tuanta> which topic are you discussing? 06:35:04 <tuanta> what can I involve? 06:35:22 <tuanta> yes, ibus-bogo is a new Vietnamese engine 06:35:42 <tagoh_> tuanta: we are trying to polish 1i8n related release notes and dueno is suggesting to mention about ibus-bogo there 06:35:53 <tuanta> great! 06:36:37 <tuanta> what missing stuffs I can provide? 06:36:52 <tuanta> please drop me an email if necessary 06:36:54 <tagoh_> what engines was used in f18? ibus-bogo is now default for Vietnamese in f19? 06:36:56 <tuanta> I have to go out now 06:37:07 <tuanta> it's used in F18 06:37:13 <tuanta> should be default for F19 06:38:04 <tuanta> nice to see it as default Vietnamese engine in f19 06:38:09 <tagoh_> what was default in f18? 06:38:21 <tuanta> nothing now 06:38:27 <tagoh_> ah, got it. okay 06:39:06 <tuanta> please drop me an email if you need any more information 06:39:09 <tuanta> I have to go out now 06:39:14 <tagoh_> okay, thanks! 06:39:15 <tuanta> thanks. see you 06:42:00 <juhp> dueno, so maybe we should add it in comps? 06:42:29 * tagoh_ updated relnotes 06:42:31 <dueno> perhaps, but there is no vietnamese-support 06:42:52 <tagoh_> in input-methods group I think? 06:43:22 <dueno> aha, is it sufficient? 06:43:45 <tagoh_> I think so 06:44:48 <tagoh_> pravins: how about noto? 06:45:47 <juhp> hmm it depends on qt ... 06:46:02 <tagoh_> oh? 06:46:27 <juhp> probably config (setup) 06:46:40 <tagoh_> what is "it"? 06:47:09 <juhp> ibus-bogo... 06:47:13 <dueno> right, it is for config 06:47:15 <tagoh_> aha 06:47:31 <tagoh_> well, I'm not that surprised since I see that in mozc too ;) 06:47:37 <juhp> so I think it would have to in vietnamese-support 06:47:43 <juhp> tagoh_, hehe 06:47:52 <juhp> well I was surprised :) 06:48:02 <juhp> ah is it from google? 06:49:06 <juhp> anyway seems good to mention in relnotes 06:50:31 <juhp> okay already there 06:50:55 <paragan> I can't find any entry for ibus-bogo in f19 comps 06:51:21 <pravins> tagoh_: still review is going on 06:51:27 <paragan> maybe first it need to be added under input-methods group 06:51:33 <tagoh_> pravins: ah, okay 06:51:52 <pravins> but tagoh_ it is must package for Fedora 19 06:52:00 <pravins> will make sure, it will be in Fedora 19 06:52:20 <tagoh_> hm 06:52:46 <tagoh_> pravins: we may miss it in relnotes perhaps then 06:52:55 <tagoh_> for beta at least 06:52:56 <juhp> paragan, there isn't... 06:52:58 <pravins> tagoh_: yeah 06:53:12 <tagoh_> need to open a bug to update relnotes later 06:53:18 <pravins> ohh 06:53:29 <tagoh_> as we did for liberation last time 06:54:18 <juhp> review is still underway? 06:54:29 <tagoh_> okay, updated markup. 06:54:34 <pravins> paragan: ^^ 06:54:54 <paragan> yes just waiting if someone need to comment on it like replacing droidsans with noto 06:55:08 <paragan> overall looks ok to me 06:55:14 <paragan> I will approve it today 06:55:30 <pravins> paragan: yeah, even me things we need some update in fontconfig file 06:55:40 <pravins> but may be we can do it in later stage. 06:56:38 <tagoh_> what's priority for noto so far? 06:57:09 <pravins> i have kept it 66 for all 06:58:34 <tagoh_> hmm, isn't it a LGC fonts? 06:58:54 <pravins> tagoh_: LGC? 06:59:25 <tagoh_> Latin-Greek-Cyrillic fonts 06:59:48 <pravins> ok got it 06:59:50 <pravins> thanks 07:00:02 <pravins> tagoh_: yes, this package has LGC fonts as well 07:00:15 <pravins> and Asian scripts as well 07:00:41 <tagoh_> aha. what lang affects with it? 07:00:41 <pravins> hmm might be LGC needs different priorities? 07:01:15 <tagoh_> they have. low prio LGC is assigned to 61-64 07:01:29 <pravins> tagoh_: google-noto has 21 subpackages and i have kept fontconf file separate for each one 07:01:43 <tagoh_> aha 07:02:15 <pravins> might be we can customize priorities, say for Devanagari 66 is safer and for LGC may be 63? 07:03:34 <tagoh_> does 66 work? g is less than l though 07:04:20 <pravins> i think yes 07:04:27 <tagoh_> okay 07:04:39 <tagoh_> any other suggestions for relnotes? 07:05:25 <tagoh_> juhp: can you help to polish it before pushing it? 07:05:35 <juhp> okay sure 07:05:44 <tagoh_> thanks 07:07:38 <tagoh_> if not, let's move on 07:08:36 <tagoh_> #info #19: gnu-free-fonts issue for Indic (aalam) 07:08:36 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/19 07:10:13 <tagoh_> ah, I missed to update bugs for recipes okay... 07:10:52 <tagoh_> will do after the meeting then 07:11:29 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor 07:11:37 <tagoh_> so any other topics to discuss in this meeting? 07:15:02 <tagoh_> if not, let's close the meeting shortly 07:15:24 <pravins> tagoh_: i am checking for it 07:15:24 <pravins> yes, no success 07:15:24 <pravins> We have already done minus indic lang from gnu-free-serif conf file 07:15:24 <pravins> may be same way we should do for other fonts as well 07:15:24 <pravins> lohit does not have Lohit-Devanagari-Bold but gnu-free-sans has bold versions as well 07:15:42 <pravins> tagoh_: sure will discuss it after meeting :) 07:16:16 <tagoh_> aha. okay 07:17:46 <tagoh_> anything else? 07:19:14 <tagoh_> okay, thanks everyone for the meeting! please keep up your testing on test day event 07:19:26 <tagoh_> #endmeeting