20:00:02 #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2013-05-08 20:00:02 Meeting started Wed May 8 20:00:02 2013 UTC. The chair is sesivany. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:07 #meetingname emea ambassadors 20:00:07 The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors' 20:00:14 #topic Roll call 20:00:22 .fas eischmann 20:00:25 .fas cmpahar 20:00:25 sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' 20:00:26 .fas gnokii 20:00:32 cmpahar: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' 20:00:33 .fas puiterwijk 20:00:35 gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' 20:00:41 puiterwijk: puiterwijk 'Patrick Uiterwijk' 20:00:44 .fas rgeri77 20:00:47 .fas rugebiker 20:00:47 rgeri77: rgeri77 'Rákosi Gergely' 20:00:50 biker: rugebiker 'Ruben Guerra Marin' 20:00:52 .fas churchyard 20:00:53 mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' 20:01:02 nehardido 'nehar oussama' 20:01:17 .fas robyduck 20:01:18 robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' 20:01:50 welcome, everyone. We have a national holiday in CZ, but the show must go on :) 20:02:18 happy holidays! We had the same yesterday in Greece :) 20:02:19 let's wait a couple more minutes... 20:02:32 happy holiday sir 20:02:34 .fas thunderbirdtr 20:02:35 thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' 20:02:39 Welcome everyone 20:02:54 sesivany: happy holiday :)) 20:03:25 nehardido: welcome! greetings to Algeria! 20:03:35 Ahoy to everyone! 20:03:41 thanks sir 20:04:09 rgeri77: Hello :)) 20:04:16 sesivany: thanks sir 20:04:37 rgeri77: did u get ur laptop back? 20:05:06 btw nehardido is undergoing mentoship, on his way to become a Fedora ambassador, too. 20:05:49 hi gnokii: of course, i need that laptop to my work. So, the next day i went to lake Velence with my family, and had a nice afternoon 20:06:11 ok, let's start. 20:06:23 #topic Announcements 20:06:31 rgeri77: thx to god ur head is fixed to ur body otherwise u would forget him :D 20:06:44 before I start with mine, does anyone have an announcement? 20:07:27 gnokii : :-) 20:07:50 ok, if no one has anything, I'll start... 20:08:02 ill wait till open floor (: 20:08:31 The new Fedora contributor conference - Flock - has been officially announced. 20:08:55 there is a website: http://flocktofedora.org 20:09:06 and the call for papers is on. 20:09:36 #info Flock, the new Fedora contributor conference, has been announced, the call for papers is on. 20:09:52 #link http://flocktofedora.org 20:10:17 hopefully they fix the loading time I get timeouts 20:10:49 the bad news is that it's replacing FUDCon NA and EMEA, so we're losing our FUDCon, the good news is that it will be held in EMEA next year. 20:11:20 sesivany: do we have the exact place for next year? 20:11:37 where ? 20:12:01 biker: no, not yet. It's still quite far away and they've got a lot to work on with this year's Flock. 20:12:27 oo ok thx (: 20:12:32 it's a pitty to have 2 events in NA in 2013 and none in EMEA... 20:12:41 but we can definitely look around if there is a good venue in your area to hold Flock. 20:13:17 robyduck: next year will be ours :) 20:13:30 sesivany: when and where isthe right time and place to branstrom this? now, here? 20:13:36 *brainstorm 20:13:52 sesivany: yes I know, was just thinking loudly ;) 20:14:08 robyduck: btw we're considering to add one more day just for Fedora to DevConf.cz, so it might serve as a gathering event in winter. And it's also in EMEA. 20:14:24 great :) 20:14:45 mhroncok: there is a mailing list: flock-planning, but as I said it's too early to talk about it. 20:15:38 #info if you want to help with Flock planning, subscribe to flock-planning mailing list. 20:16:20 any other announcements? 20:16:43 if not, let's move on to the next topic. 20:16:56 #topic Requests 20:16:56 GUADEC? 20:17:09 #undo 20:17:09 Removing item from minutes: 20:17:34 sorry sesivany 20:17:38 robyduck: GUADEC 2013 will be in Brno... where else :D 20:17:56 yeah I know, from 1st to 8th august if I'm right 20:18:13 robyduck: yes 20:18:34 are we going to be present in some way? 20:18:37 #info GUADEC 2013, the GNOME conference, will be held in Brno from August 1st to 8th - https://www.guadec.org/ 20:19:06 robyduck: I'm one of the main organizers, there are many redhatters and fedorans involved. 20:19:18 robyduck: we're considering to have a Fedora booth there. 20:19:22 oh nice 20:19:25 really? 20:19:41 nice .. 20:19:44 * robyduck takes notice 20:19:49 :) 20:20:11 robyduck: yeah, it depends on volunteers 'cause I'll be too busy organizing it. 20:20:40 will see if I can be there, why not... 20:20:59 thx sesivany, go on, I think there is a lot to say today 20:21:25 robyduck: if you need any additional info, just drop me an email ;) 20:21:31 ok, let's move on 20:21:34 ok 20:21:39 #topic Requests 20:21:52 * sesivany is looking at the EMEA trac. 20:22:38 there is only one more and it's mine :) 20:23:00 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/240 - Production of Fedora Buttons 20:23:45 we have about $350 left for swag in this quarter and we have no Fedora buttons left, so I propose to produce some. 20:24:01 there are two questions to answer... 20:24:17 +1 for 24mm, fedora, no shrodingers cat 20:24:36 do we want only the smaller one we have had so far or do we want a larger ones, too? 20:24:38 350 for buttons ? 20:24:44 that is a lot of buttons 20:24:59 +1 smaller one 20:25:29 LinuxCode: it's 1000 buttons, the price should be $300, not $350. 20:25:42 aargh 20:26:00 gnokii: ? 20:26:02 +1 larger 20:26:16 sesivany, what size ? 20:26:28 since they changed to openID login I cant login anymore sucks 20:26:38 gnokii: what is the problem? 20:26:52 gnokii: 20:26:52 The quotes are: 20:26:52 24mm buttons - 6 CZK ($.30) a piece 20:26:52 37mm buttons - 7.50 CZK ($.35) a piece 20:26:52 plus some small amount for shipping 20:26:53 We've always produced 24mm ones, but there has been a proposal to also produce a bigger ones. We can also produce some F19 special with Schrödinger's Cat. To fit in our budget, the total number should not exceed 1000 pieces. 20:26:58 once i made buttons like this with the 4F words : http://kepeink.hu/main.php?g2_itemId=7899&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 20:27:46 I know everyone is going off on the next releases theme, but I would keep it to the simple Fedora logo 20:27:51 ok, let's go step by step.... 20:27:56 1000 buttons is quite a lot 20:28:04 gnokii: please PM me for openid support 20:28:08 first question: 20:28:36 do we want only the small ones, or half small ones and half larger ones? 20:28:46 +1 only small ones 20:29:05 * LinuxCode measures the buttons he has 20:29:28 +1 for large ones 20:29:51 hmmm the larger ones have the tendency to bend 20:29:57 the pin on backpacks 20:29:59 etc.. 20:30:06 i have one Mozilla 35mm in my hand, and its Ok i think. +1 35mm or 37mm 20:30:19 I have some EFF 24mm ones 20:30:21 small ones: https://www.dropbox.com/s/covifyehlvnsuld/2013-04-24%2022.45.03.jpg 20:30:26 they never bent the pins off 20:30:41 sesivany, go 50/50 20:30:44 ;-p 20:30:53 LinuxCode: you right 20:31:05 if the manufacturer will allow it, without increased costings 20:31:06 looks like that's the consensus. 20:31:35 50/50 its ok 20:31:39 LinuxCode: the cost is a bit higher: $.30 vs $.35, but it's not such a big different. 20:31:43 +1 50/50 20:31:48 no I meant, volume pricing 20:31:59 minimum order , per item price etc.. 20:32:13 LinuxCode: the volume pricing is the same between 500 and 1000. 20:32:16 k 20:32:20 cool 20:32:32 then I would go 50/50 20:33:13 ok, the other question is: do we want just Fedora logo buttons or something else? Like 4Foundations or F19 Schrodinger's Cat or whatever? 20:33:39 dont forget, buttons are quite small 20:33:49 4F for 24mm would not be visible I think 20:34:01 sesivany: allow me sir to say i go with multi graphics pins 20:34:06 mhroncok: depends 20:34:20 gnokii: I mean all four of them on one button 20:34:38 sesivany, doe the design team have a round version of schroedingers ? 20:35:09 LinuxCode: probably not, but we have gnokii :) 20:35:31 tbh, I would make Fedora standard logo ones 20:35:40 they are visible, it is a know brand 20:35:50 people can identify it from a distance 20:35:59 also, if you have 1000 to shift 20:36:07 and they think its Facebook :-) (oh my) 20:36:19 rgeri77, then it is up to us, to educate them 20:36:39 in a way that is a positive 20:36:47 it starts a conversation 20:36:47 I did it :-)......with a hammer :-) 20:36:48 LinuxCode: I've got similar opinion, people can hardly associate 4F with Fedora. 20:37:32 ok, should we go just with Fedora logo ones? 20:37:40 +1 just fedora logo 20:37:45 +1 20:38:30 ok, +1 from me, too. 20:38:36 80% Fedora logo, 20% 4F, but its mean +1 Fedora logo 20:38:48 sesivany, when does this quarters billing cycle end again ? 20:39:22 LinuxCode: the deadline is around May 20th, so pretty close. 20:39:43 also it is quite a while yet before F19 release 20:39:51 so in the meantime, we could shift stuff 20:39:59 if it is plain 20:40:58 LinuxCode: yeah, it's my plan to get refilled for F19. Distribution is pending on media which will be available just before the release. 20:41:42 yeh 20:42:07 gnokii: we need an artwork for 37mm, the one available is just 24mm. Would you be able to do it? 20:42:22 until when? 20:42:40 sesivany, I have a 37mm button here with the logo on 20:42:49 should be available in the designs 20:43:01 if we are talking about the fedora logo 20:43:25 #agreed the ticket #240 was approved. We go for Fedora logo ones. Half 24mm ones, half 37mm ones. 20:43:54 I'm not sure. gnokii, is it available for different sizes? 20:44:09 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral#Buttons 20:44:28 its available in 1.5 20:44:41 gnokii, Mo should be able to help here 20:45:12 ahh scribus source 20:45:14 i dont think she has the time now 20:45:30 gnokii, check the link, there is source for scribus 20:45:40 ^^ 20:45:56 gnokii: if it's available for 1.5, we're OK, that's the larger size. 20:46:26 can resize that its not a big deal 20:47:14 gnokii: that'd be great. 20:48:08 gnokii: I'll talk to you about it privately. Again, time matters :-/ 20:48:08 do we need to discuss technical part of thing right now? 20:48:43 mhroncok: no, let's move on... 20:49:08 #topic Budget 20:49:39 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Budget#Q1_.28March_-_May_2013.29 20:50:07 as we're very close to the end of the quarter, I'd like to talk a bit about the budget. 20:51:06 a lot of our expenses that are related to this quarter will land in RHT accounting the next quarter. 20:51:20 .fas jfarcher 20:51:21 jonar: jfarcher 'Jonathan Archer' 20:51:25 LinuxWochen other than Vienna, were they used? 20:51:31 it should not be a problem, we spoke with rsuehle about it. 20:52:14 mhroncok: no, some of it will be used for the Vienna one which was a bit more expensive than planned, the rest will be used to lower our budget to meet the annual limit. 20:52:43 mhroncok: no and there is only one left 20:52:57 cmpahar: do you know anything about Fosscomm? It has already taken place, right? 20:53:51 what I'd like to ask you for is to provide receipt and ask for reimbursement as soon as possible. 20:54:36 gnokii: any updates about others receipts for Vienna? The apartment? 20:54:48 ?? 20:55:18 gnokii: was it cwickert who paid the apartment? 20:55:29 yes and he has the invoice 20:56:01 gnokii: he hasn't uploaded it yet, but it's later for this quarter anyway. 20:57:44 #info Provide receipts and ask for reimbursement as soon as possible. We need as many expenses as possible to land in RHT accounting in the same quarter. 20:58:01 ok, anything else to the budget? 20:58:07 when's the deadline? 20:59:07 mhroncok: for reimbursements via community credit card, it's already too late. All payments made by the credit card in May will land in RHT accounting in June. 21:00:01 I mean for my travel expenses mainly 21:00:15 for other payments that go to the RHT finances directly (e.g. when I buy buttons, media etc.), it's usually 10 days before the end of the quarter. 21:00:55 mhroncok: if you get reimbursed by Joerg Simon, it's via the community credit card. 21:01:32 ok 21:01:39 ok, let's move on, shall we? 21:02:08 * jonar Apologies for being late 21:03:12 jonar: no problem, no one will tell on you ;-) 21:03:23 :) 21:03:28 #topic Ambassador's Schedule 21:03:43 * sesivany is looking for the schedule... 21:03:55 #link http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-ambassadors-tasks.html 21:04:43 the call for release parties is getting nearer... 21:05:01 is anyone planning to organize a F19 release party? 21:05:08 me 21:05:11 sesivany: yes, I am 21:05:25 of course 21:05:27 yes me too 21:05:43 just waiting to hear back from someone on a venue to hold one 21:05:48 sesivany: no 21:06:03 mhroncok: Prague? 21:06:09 yes 21:06:23 mhroncok: just don't rely on Bogo ;-) 21:06:47 don't worry, won't do that again 21:07:25 I encourage everyone to organize a release party, it's an opportunity to show users the newest release of Fedora and it's usually a lot of fun, too :) 21:07:43 sesivany: we have the Lugano one, delayed from F18...but it's rather early now to confirm it 21:07:55 and also Ivrea 21:08:26 when the call is on, just don't forget to add it to the list and file a request for swag and media in our trac. 21:08:50 ok 21:09:07 Release Event Funding Request Deadline Fri 2013-07-12 ? 21:09:59 bear in mind that it usually takes 10 days to produce media, then some time for shipping, safe time to hold is is about 20 days after the release if you want to have media. 21:10:31 sesivany: i will contact the Djaloul Bouida ''the algerian fedora ambassador '' about the release party 21:11:12 mhroncok: it doesn't really apply to us since we have no money to fund release parties (except for providing swag and media) because of budget cuts. 21:11:53 ok, we can discuss this later personaly 21:12:43 nehardido: it'd be great. You don't have to go large for the first time. You can make a smaller event for a few students at your university, gather some experience and make it bigger next time. 21:13:28 anything else to the schedule or release events? 21:13:44 sesivany: okay i will try to ... 21:14:59 #topic Events 21:15:13 * sesivany looking at the list of Fedora events... 21:16:06 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events?rd=FedoraEvents#FY14_Q1_.28March_2013_-_May_2013.29_2 21:16:12 but it's very outdated. 21:16:27 * sesivany hopes that it will be replaced by some working calendar soon. 21:17:39 anyway, gnokii, mhroncok, rgeri77: how was LinuxWochen? 21:18:00 great breakfasts :D 21:18:04 :D 21:18:07 :-) 21:18:34 the new building is bigger so exhibition was small compared to the room size, talks was good visited 21:18:51 we were the only regular booth tehre 21:18:56 no 21:19:14 there was also wikimedia, debian, osm 21:19:14 the booth takes 3 tables :-) 21:19:21 I've read gnokii's report and it seemed like a Fedora event. A lot of Fedora talks, great booth,... 21:19:22 so its not regular :-) 21:20:18 mhroncok: on opensuse? 21:21:01 opensuse had a booth with some posters, but I haven't seen there anyone 21:21:18 mhroncok: that's typical of them :) 21:21:36 anyway, the next event coming is LinuxTag. 21:21:59 mhroncok, gnokii: did you speak with cwickert about it in Vienna? 21:22:08 a bit 21:22:38 but from my point, nothing serious was discussed 21:22:48 * gnokii is not happy to be the man in the middle 21:22:49 I still haven't received any answer about accommodation, so I hope we won't sleep under a bridge :) 21:23:09 we can sleep in the car 21:24:10 gnokii: is cwickert still using his fedoraproject.org email address? because I haven't received any reply to my emails for last month or more. 21:24:33 sesivany: we can ping hi on Facebook or G+ 21:25:06 I am sure he has something reserved and u will know it before u arrive in Berlin where it is, if not we all sleep at his place ;) 21:25:23 gnokii: :-) 21:26:16 ok, after LinuxTag, there is Solution Linux in Paris, another large event. 21:26:36 but it's in hands of French guys 21:27:26 nothing else between now and the F19 release 21:27:59 that really is straight after LinuxTag 21:28:27 no actions items from the previous meeting, so we can skip that... 21:28:40 #topic OpenFloor 21:28:47 ! 21:28:53 biker: go ahead 21:29:12 well,., i dont think anyone here knows me,., and thats why im here,., to introduce myself 21:29:46 my name is Ruben,., i live in Tijuana, Mexico, as well as in San Diego, California, USA (same city with just a border in the middle) 21:29:56 so im an ambassador from LATAM and from FAMNA 21:30:06 but on august ill move to eindhoven, in the netherlands 21:30:26 so ill be part of emea then (: 21:30:48 ultimate ambassador 21:30:49 biker: welcome on board ;) 21:31:09 thanks sesivany (: 21:31:19 Welcome biker 21:31:20 so anything in what i can help,., im available from august (: 21:31:31 puiterwijk will be glad to have another Fedora mate in the Netherlands, right? ;) 21:31:43 sesivany: absolutely! 21:32:14 biker: too bbad you'll be too late for the release party I'm scheduling, but you'll be in time for the next one ;) 21:32:14 hehe nice :D 21:32:23 sure! 21:32:26 :p 21:32:41 we have to some big event over there ;) 21:32:42 bye guys. my router disconnect me in seconds........ 21:32:44 might interested in froscon as it is not far 21:32:47 to do * 21:32:58 rgeri77: bye 21:33:24 biker: you can get in touch with other Fedora ambassadors in the Netherlands. 21:33:25 biker: yeah, I'm planning to do that, and it's nice to have another ambassador nearby :) 21:33:43 puiterwijk: ill help with whatever i can :D 21:33:51 sesivany: i though puiterwijk was the only one 21:33:59 sesivany: sir would you allow me to left the meeting ... i got quite a day tomorrow in the univ ! sorry 21:34:20 biker: no, I'm not the only one, but I believe i'm the only active one ;) 21:34:28 oo okok :p 21:34:59 well hope to meet you puiterwijk and all of you soon (: 21:35:08 puiterwijk: is pingou still in the Netherlands? 21:35:28 sesivany: yes, he is. but I believe he's not that active with FAm right now, because of his research? 21:36:02 nehardido: no problem, it's ending the meeting soon anyway. Glad to see you here! 21:36:09 yep, I think he plan to finish his thesis soon 21:36:19 sesivany: thank you sir 21:36:33 good night everyone & thanks you 21:36:35 misc: yeah, indeed. 21:36:41 thank you ...sorry 21:37:04 nehardido: good night! 21:37:48 ok, anything else to discuss? 21:38:57 thanks a lot (: 21:39:12 ! 21:39:25 jonar: go ahead 21:39:35 just a quick question, is June the start of the next quarter for events etc 21:40:51 Just so I know when to start arranging for the event in July 21:41:00 jonar: yes, but it matters only regarding the budget. 21:41:38 jonar: Fedora follows the fiscal year of Red Hat: March-May, June-Aug, Sept-Nov, Dec-Feb. 21:41:57 OK fine, I'll mention the details of the event in the next meeting then. no point bringing it up too soon.... No budget needed for the event 21:42:20 jonar: ok 21:43:08 thanks 21:44:33 if there is nothing else, let me thank you for attending the meeting tonight. We'll see if I can chair the meeting in two weeks because I'll be at LinuxTag. 21:45:16 thank you. 21:45:23 enjoy Linux Tag! 21:45:59 #endmeeting