18:59:59 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-05-23)
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18:59:59 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:59:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:59:59 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
18:59:59 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
19:00:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
19:00:21 * puiterwijk is around
19:00:25 * abadger1999 here
19:00:30 * relrod is here
19:00:32 * pingou 
19:00:42 <framew0rk> hello
19:00:45 * cyberworm54 is here
19:00:47 <ignatenkobrain> hellp
19:00:47 * bitlord still watching :-)
19:00:58 * ignatenkobrain watching
19:02:57 * nirik waits a min more for folks to wander in.
19:03:07 <dgilmore> hola
19:03:33 <smooge> I am here
19:03:38 * skvidal is here
19:03:42 * threebean threebean
19:03:44 <smooge> with skvidal we can begin
19:04:34 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:04:43 <nirik> any new folks? or apprentices with questions or comments?
19:04:49 <smooge> Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd.  Thrice and once, the hedge-pig whin'd.  Harpier cries:—'tis time! 'tis time!  Round about the caldron go;
19:04:53 <framew0rk> i'm new! :)
19:05:00 <framew0rk> first meeting
19:05:13 <pingou> smooge: saywat?
19:05:23 <pingou> welcome framew0rk
19:05:30 <ignatenkobrain> i'm new. first meeting in here. but not new in #fedora-blocker-review
19:05:38 <nirik> welcome framew0rk. Are you interested in sysadmin or application development type things?
19:05:41 <pingou> welcome to ignatenkobrain
19:05:46 <framew0rk> thanks pingou and nirik
19:05:53 <ignatenkobrain> pingou: thanks
19:05:55 * skvidal likes smooge's intro line there
19:06:09 <nirik> Note that there is a beta readyness meeting going on in #fedora-meeting-1 for any folks looking for that.
19:06:11 <framew0rk> nirik: i prefer sysadmin stuff but i have developed with php before. trying to learn python.
19:06:14 <nirik> welcome ignatenkobrain.
19:06:22 <ignatenkobrain> nirik: thx
19:07:07 <nirik> framew0rk: cool. See me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and I can get you into our apprentice group if you like.
19:07:19 <nirik> ignatenkobrain: you interested in sysadmin or application development type things?
19:07:30 <framew0rk> nirik: great, will do. thanks!
19:07:53 <ignatenkobrain> nirik: sysadmin.I'm bad developer =)
19:08:02 * suehle_away is here
19:08:07 <jerzyr> is here
19:08:10 * suehle_away is in the wrong place
19:08:18 <nirik> ignatenkobrain: :) cool. Can set you up in apprentice as well after the meeting if you're interested.
19:08:20 <nirik> welcome again.
19:08:32 <nirik> suehle: you're always welcome in infra meetings too! :)
19:08:56 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:09:05 <nirik> any application news from this week or upcoming?
19:09:58 * relrod has something but isn't sure if it's better for here or open floor
19:10:00 <nirik> There was some talk/meeting on badges. ;)
19:10:05 <pingou> threebean started to patch fedora-news
19:10:15 <nirik> as a side note, I see that moodle now has badges.
19:10:22 <pingou> I'm working toward fedocal 0.2.0
19:10:24 * threebean goes to learn what moodle is
19:10:36 <nirik> it's a on-line class framework thing.
19:10:41 <nirik> you make classes and people take them
19:10:44 <relrod> After talking with spot and some other people, I have started working on an Android app for Fedora-ish stuff.
19:10:51 <threebean> ah, cool.
19:10:52 <pingou> relrod: cool :)
19:10:55 <nirik> relrod: awesome. :)
19:10:59 <ignatenkobrain> relrod: good
19:11:09 <relrod> It'll interact with APIs for things like Fedora Packages, it'll be able to receive fedmsg notifications, etc.
19:11:11 <pingou> threebean: http://school.demo.moodle.net/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=320
19:11:16 <skvidal> relrod: neat
19:11:21 <nirik> how would an android app overlap with the fedora-news thing?
19:12:12 <relrod> nirik: pingou said the fedora-news app was mostly for firefox os, so I've been treating it as a separate thing so far
19:12:28 <nirik> ok, so this would be similar, but a native app?
19:12:31 <pingou> relrod: it does work on android
19:12:51 <nirik> yeah, it works here in firefox on android. (I've not tried it in "browser")
19:12:57 <relrod> nirik: Yeah, this will be a native app. It'll let you add your FAS account using the android account provider API, for example.
19:13:00 <skvidal> I tried it in chrome
19:13:03 <skvidal> it works just fine
19:13:08 <skvidal> nirik: you still use 'browser'?
19:13:12 <threebean> well, from what I've heard of the android app, there's a big difference of scope here.
19:13:33 <nirik> skvidal: no, I use firefox. ;) thats why I haven't tried it in 'browser' (which, really, wtf is it really?)
19:13:43 <nirik> relrod: cool. or openid?
19:13:44 <threebean> Since relrod can hook fas into the android api, we can do a lot more.  fedora-news is just one way:  news -> the user.
19:14:07 <nirik> ah yeah... so it's consumer vs consumer/producer.
19:14:14 <pingou> maybe it's also duable for fedora-news, no idea there :/
19:14:15 <jerzyr> threebean: moodle is for Australian children
19:14:41 <pingou> and I won't be able to look into it before flock basically
19:14:43 <nirik> #info android app for underway. See relrod for details.
19:14:51 <nirik> #info fedora-news work ongoing.
19:15:02 <nirik> #info fedocal working toward 0.2.0 release
19:15:03 <relrod> Anyway, I just wanted to mention it. I'm still just getting started on it. I'll be doing a Flock hackfest on it -- if it gets accepted
19:15:15 * threebean nods
19:15:19 <threebean> relrod: cool :)
19:15:53 <threebean> oh, one more thing -> I got the mailman3 fedmsg plugin working for the most part.  I'm just getting into packaging it now.
19:15:55 <nirik> how's the web end of badges? we need some instances at some point (I was going to do it after freeze)
19:15:58 <skvidal> relrod: nie
19:16:04 <threebean> I'm excited, because I know skvidal will love it.
19:16:09 <threebean> because skvidal loves mailing lists.
19:16:14 <tflink> speaking as someone who does not have a working android device and has no plans to change that, please don't add any more smartphone requirements for infra/devel than we already have
19:16:23 <tflink> but that may be off topic
19:16:37 <skvidal> tflink: no requirements - this is a news consuming app aiui
19:16:40 <nirik> tflink: it's no requirement... ;) it's just a way for people who have them to interact.
19:16:56 <skvidal> tflink: also I don't think we have any smartphone device requirements
19:17:02 <skvidal> tflink: yubikeys work fine for 2fa
19:17:11 <nirik> ie, someday perhaps you could check on a build, make a new update from your phone, but you could also do it from command line or web interface.
19:17:28 <tflink> skvidal: they do?
19:17:33 <tflink> it didn't work for me on stg
19:17:34 <skvidal> tflink: yep
19:17:36 <tflink> but I digress
19:18:15 <nirik> anyhow, there's no plans to make anything smartphone specific. ;)
19:18:31 <threebean> nirik: oh, on your badges question.. we'll be making more progress on that next week.  we could ship it to staging now, but its ugly.
19:18:41 <nirik> no worries.
19:19:18 <nirik> any other applications news?
19:19:55 <skvidal> threebean: I like mailing lists. I just don't like email :)
19:20:00 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:20:00 <threebean> ;)
19:20:06 <nirik> so, on the sysadmin side...
19:20:16 <nirik> skvidal has been rocking on the ansible migration.
19:20:32 <nirik> #info ansible migration making good headway
19:20:39 <skvidal> I have global ported and I dumped a bunch of stuff that was nonsense
19:20:44 <skvidal> or just so old we cannot explain why it exists
19:21:04 <threebean> that's great!
19:21:06 <nirik> after freeze we might look at migrating some more machines over.
19:21:18 <pingou> cool
19:21:22 <skvidal> threebean: it's a start - it's not GREAT yet
19:21:47 <threebean> heh, ok.  :)
19:22:05 <nirik> #info we have kernel qa boxes hopefully ready to hand over to kernel folks soon.
19:22:23 <nirik> #info our new bladecenter should finish showing up at some point in the next few weeks.
19:23:04 <skvidal> speaking of
19:23:06 <skvidal> that bladecenter
19:23:10 <skvidal> what is it we're installing on it?
19:23:33 <nirik> it's going to be build boxen...
19:23:40 <nirik> and bvirt's possibly.
19:23:53 <skvidal> nirik: which boxes are going away?
19:24:31 <nirik> eventually the current old bladecenter... but not anytime super soon
19:24:46 <nirik> which has buildvm's and 2 bvhosts on it?
19:25:01 <skvidal> yah
19:25:02 <nirik> (oh, and the 2 ppc's which will go away in favor of a new ppc box we have)
19:25:06 <smooge> yay. I plan to be the guinea pig for following basic steps and wriitng docs
19:25:17 * ignatenkobrain leaving you. nirik, I will write to you next.
19:25:33 <nirik> ignatenkobrain: have fun. see me in #fedora-admin later.
19:25:42 <ignatenkobrain> nirik: ok.
19:26:01 <nirik> the new bladecenter only has 4 blades, but they have a lot more mem than the existing ones and more cpus, etc...
19:26:25 <nirik> anyhow, it's not fully shipped yet, so we can figure out how we want to parcel it when it's racked.
19:26:45 <nirik> any other sysadmin type news?
19:26:59 <smooge> kernel boxes built. skvidal did ansible on them
19:27:10 <smooge> I learned that f19 needs newgrp to sudo :)
19:27:13 <nirik> cool. they are both done and have hw all set now?
19:27:22 <smooge> they are all done.
19:27:32 <smooge> a kickstart has been made to rebuild them when needed
19:27:37 <smooge> they are on the testing KVM
19:27:51 <smooge> we shoould have some power APC's on the KVM soon also
19:27:54 <nirik> excellent. ;) you can close out that ticket on that then.
19:28:37 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion
19:28:43 <nirik> not much on cloud this week...
19:28:58 <nirik> #info loaded some f19 beta RC's in for people to test with.
19:29:41 <nirik> #topic Upcoming tasks/items
19:29:42 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:29:48 <nirik> (yes, I still need to populate it more)
19:29:53 <nirik> #info 2013-05-14 to 2013-05-28 BETA infrastructure freeze
19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-05-28 F19 beta release
19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter
19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-06-01 nag fi-apprentices
19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-06-08 drop inactive apprentices
19:29:55 <nirik> #info 2013-06-18 to 2013-07-02 FINAL infrastructure freeze.
19:29:56 <nirik> #info 2013-07-01 nag fi-apprentices
19:29:58 <nirik> #info 2013-07-02 F19 FINAL release
19:30:11 <nirik> anything folks want to schedule or note?
19:30:26 <pingou> 2013-08-09:12 flock
19:30:36 <nirik> yeah, just cut it off at f19
19:31:02 <pingou> dead line for talks, workshop, hackfest is the end of the month
19:31:07 <threebean> 2013-05-28 oddshocks starts his RH internship
19:31:12 <nirik> yeah, might be good to add in. ;)
19:31:14 <nirik> cool.
19:31:26 <pingou> D-5
19:31:47 <nirik> threebean: oddshocks is going to work on badges? or ?
19:32:05 <threebean> nirik: yes, correct.
19:32:20 <nirik> excellent.
19:32:29 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:32:39 <nirik> any items folks want to discuss that was not on the adgenda?
19:33:46 <threebean> Oh -- I'm off on PTO tomorrow.  So, if you need me for something.. let's talk about it after the meeting?
19:33:48 <nirik> Beta is a go, so thats tuesday. ;) We will actually unfreeze on time this time.
19:33:56 <nirik> also...
19:34:04 <nirik> monday is a holiday (at RH at least)
19:34:25 <pingou> May 27? Which one is it?
19:34:35 <tibbs|w> US Memorial day.
19:34:35 <skvidal> memorial day
19:34:41 <pingou> oh ok
19:34:43 <nirik> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day
19:34:53 <pingou> thanks nirik, you read my mind :)
19:34:54 <puiterwijk> nirik: not for complete RH, only RH US
19:35:00 <nirik> puiterwijk: sorry, yeah, true.
19:35:16 <nirik> anyhow, will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing else.
19:36:36 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
19:36:39 <nirik> #endmeeting