15:03:35 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig
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15:03:38 <rdieter> #meetingname kde-sig
15:03:38 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig'
15:03:42 <rdieter> #topic roll call
15:03:52 <rdieter> hola, greetings and salutations
15:04:04 <rdieter> who
15:04:11 <rdieter> is around for a friendly kde-sig meeting?
15:04:36 <rdieter> than, Kevin_Kofler, dvratil, kde*foo : ping
15:04:42 <dvratil> pong
15:05:10 <Kevin_Kofler> Present.
15:05:35 <rdieter> #chair dvratil Kevin_Kofler than
15:05:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dvratil rdieter than
15:06:36 <rdieter> #info dvratil Kevin_Kofler
15:07:06 <rdieter> #topic agenda
15:07:12 <rdieter> so, what to discuss today?
15:08:09 <Kevin_Kofler> Whether it makes sense to continue holding weekly meetings, when it's every week the same thing: more people absent than present, those who are present take 5 to 20 minutes to get the meeting started etc. :-(
15:08:37 <rdieter> tis ok, I'd rather have frequent/short meetings
15:08:45 <rdieter> to be honest
15:09:17 <Kevin_Kofler> If we were doing formal voting, we wouldn't even have a quorum.
15:09:19 <rdieter> you have a point though, probably need to do better at compiling agenda's ahead of time though
15:09:39 <rdieter> and lack of (or minimal) agenda would mean just not meet that week
15:09:59 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: true
15:10:26 <Kevin_Kofler> There used to be meeting pages in the wiki, but whoever used to create them stopped doing it and now there aren't any.
15:10:42 <Kevin_Kofler> And nobody takes the initiative to create one.
15:10:42 <rdieter> jreznik did most of that in recent memory, yeah
15:10:54 <rdieter> I've always been bad at that task
15:10:56 <Kevin_Kofler> Maybe I should try to script meeting page creation somehow.
15:11:17 <Kevin_Kofler> There are some tools which can use the MediaWiki API for that purpose.
15:11:50 <Kevin_Kofler> I remember I used pywikipedia to mass-fix breakage from the MoinMoin→MediaWiki conversion in our meeting pages.
15:12:11 <rdieter> anyway, for today, since there seems not to be anything in need of formal discussion, I move we close/cancel the meeting for today.
15:12:38 <Kevin_Kofler> (Not that Python would be my favorite language, but it did the job. :-) I could also see if there's something nice in C++.)
15:12:40 <rdieter> (if there are no objections or topic suggestions in the meantime)
15:13:45 <Kevin_Kofler> Hmmm… 4.10.4 is out, there's no 4.10.5 at this time (will there even be one? Upstream and .5 releases is always a fun story…), F19 seems on track.
15:13:48 <rdieter> dvratil: should we make a push to test/karma++ kscreen for f19 GA you think?
15:13:51 <rdieter> kscreen-1.0 that is
15:13:57 <Kevin_Kofler> There's a 4.11 beta though, what about that one?
15:14:17 <Kevin_Kofler> In principle, we should be working on getting that into Rawhide (F20+) now.
15:14:29 <Kevin_Kofler> (Of course not F19.)
15:14:34 <rdieter> sure
15:15:05 <dvratil> please, it would be great to get KScreen 1 there
15:15:26 <rdieter> dvratil: k, I'll ask for testing
15:15:31 <dvratil> thanks :)
15:15:37 * rdieter checks what the autokarma level is set at
15:15:42 <rdieter> 3 it seems
15:16:21 * dvratil has to go, sorry
15:16:25 <dvratil> and thanks for testing
15:16:25 <rdieter> meh, let's just go back to informal rambling in #fedora-kde then
15:16:32 <rdieter> thanks :)
15:16:46 <rdieter> to infinity and beyond!
15:16:49 <rdieter> #endmeeting