22:32:36 <aeperezt> #startmeeting 22:32:36 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 28 22:32:36 2013 UTC. The chair is aeperezt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:32:36 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:32:42 <mribeirodantas> .fas mribeirodantas 22:32:43 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' <ribeirodantasdm@gmail.com> 22:32:44 * mribeirodantas Brazil 22:32:51 <ramilton> entendi 22:32:51 <aeperezt> #meetingname Fedora Latam Ambassadors 22:32:51 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors' 22:32:56 <echeveandroid> .fas echevemaster 22:32:56 <zodbot> echeveandroid: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com> 22:32:58 <ramilton> .fas ramilton 22:33:00 <zodbot> ramilton: ramilton 'Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior' <ramiltoncosta@gmail.com> 22:33:01 <Danniel-Lara> .fas danniel 22:33:03 <zodbot> Danniel-Lara: danniel 'Daniel Lara Souza' <daniellarasouza@yahoo.com.br> - hdanniel 'Hector Paz' <hdanniel@gmail.com> 22:33:08 * echeveandroid Venezuela 22:33:13 <viperboy001> .fas williamjmorenor 22:33:14 <zodbot> viperboy001: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com> 22:33:19 <viperboy001> Nicaragua 22:33:21 <lin> .fas lin 22:33:22 <zodbot> lin: pklingem 'Patrick Klingemann' <patrick.klingemann@gmail.com> - rjpoulin 'Rick Poulin' <poulinrj@msn.com> - chanshaw 'Colin Hanshaw' <chanshaw@sympatico.ca> - gustavofranca 'gustavo andrade franca' <guga@linuxmail.org> - waycon25 'Wayne Conklin' <waycon25@verizon.net> - milindbhosle98 'milind bhosle' <milindbhosle98@gmail.com> - wellington 'Wellington de Carvalho Rodrigues' <wellington.acr@gmail.com> - (50 more messages) 22:33:30 <aeperezt> #chair wolnei mribeirodantas echeveandroid tatica 22:33:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echeveandroid mribeirodantas tatica wolnei 22:33:40 <tatica> o/ 22:33:42 <aeperezt> #topic rolcall 22:33:42 <tatica> .fas tatica 22:33:43 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com> 22:33:46 <wolnei> .fas wolnei 22:33:47 <zodbot> wolnei: charged '' <e+charged@wolnei.com.br> - wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' <e@wolnei.com.br> 22:33:48 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt 22:33:50 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com> 22:34:06 * aeperezt Panama 22:36:02 <aeperezt> #link meeting agenda https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9 22:36:36 <aeperezt> #topic ticket 121 dominios Latam 22:37:03 <aeperezt> Since we have news about this from the owner 22:37:18 <aeperezt> I have created a ticket on the Fedora Board 22:37:53 <aeperezt> and they have express their concern and included Fedora legal into the convesation 22:38:14 <tatica> +1 22:38:39 <mribeirodantas> Well, sooner or later something had to be done. At least we have so news that direct this situation towards some decision. 22:38:45 <mribeirodantas> some news* 22:39:03 <aeperezt> now the issue is on the board and they will proceed with the basic 3 steps recomended by legal 22:39:10 <aeperezt> first one is asking nice 22:39:47 <aeperezt> itamar email Padula and with copy to Tom Calloway and once more he responded this week 22:39:59 <aeperezt> so now legal is on the loop 22:40:23 <aeperezt> that is the only thing new and will see what happen 22:40:27 <tatica> aeperezt, isn he willing to release the domain yet? 22:41:08 <mribeirodantas> I thought yn1v had told us that he was given some information that it was "processing" the transfer or sometihng 22:41:16 <aeperezt> tatica, he always say yes and add will do next week but we are on that song for about two months now 22:41:27 <tatica> aeperezt, longer I think 22:41:35 <aeperezt> tatica, right longer 22:41:45 <tatica> :/ 22:41:53 <echeveandroid> Yes is a loop game 22:41:55 <tatica> well, at least legal is ok with taking action 22:42:06 <yn1v> mribeirodantas, I did the request, it was in proccess, but it need that the other person accept the request. That's what we are waiting for. 22:42:36 <mayorga> .fas mayorgalinux 22:42:37 <zodbot> mayorga: mayorgalinux 'Eduardo Mayorga Téllez' <mayorgalinux@gmail.com> 22:42:44 <yn1v> .fas yn1v 22:42:45 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com> 22:42:53 * yn1v Nicargua 22:43:00 <aeperezt> there was also a note from a board member that they have complains about those domains selling fedora merchandize so they already new there was an issue there 22:43:21 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: not only selling, but doing a terrible job by doing this 22:43:35 <mribeirodantas> I have said before that I bought Fedora stuff there because some people thought it was OK and that Fedora was aware of it 22:43:47 <mribeirodantas> It took at least 3 times the time I paid for and it only happened when I talked to Padula. 22:43:51 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, I think that is why people ask the board if they are allow to do that 22:44:01 <mribeirodantas> He said he's not the owner anymore but that he would try to help me and well, it indeed got here fast after this talk. 22:44:01 <wolnei> projetofedora.org has transfer status prohibited now 22:44:28 <aeperezt> wolnei, it always has that 22:44:39 <yn1v> yes, I wans't able to open a transfer request for that domain 22:44:54 <aeperezt> the owner needs to allow the transfer and send an email with the transfer code to yn1v who requested 22:45:06 <aeperezt> once that is done the transfer will be completed 22:45:24 <aeperezt> it will take a person two minutes to do that if he want to do it 22:45:29 <wolnei> ok 22:45:40 <mribeirodantas> yn1v: I see. Thanks for making it clear :) 22:45:41 <aeperezt> the willing part is the issue 22:46:15 <ramilton> só que ele não vai fazer. Deveriamos esquecer esse dominio e não perder mais tempo com ele 22:46:16 <yn1v> indeed, traveling is not a problem, because nowadays you have internet everywhere 22:46:58 <aeperezt> so we move on 22:47:09 <mribeirodantas> ramilton: Unfortunately, the domain violates trademark and [maybe] some other things. I think we have already given up on using it, but allowing it to exist violates Red Hat trademarks. 22:47:38 <mribeirodantas> So I think that's what we've been trying to do. Avoid it to be under the control of someone outside Fedora or Red Hat. 22:48:01 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, right plus those domains use to hold must of latam counties domains and 5 if no more of marketing were on them 22:48:09 <ramilton> entendi mribeirodantas 22:48:10 <yn1v> I think we may expect for the time of renovation, that he would have to decide to pay or not. 22:48:12 <mribeirodantas> wow 22:48:40 <mribeirodantas> Well, as aeperezt said, let's move on. 22:48:42 <mribeirodantas> :) 22:48:55 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, really sad. 22:49:11 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: indeed :/ 22:50:21 <aeperezt> #topic ticket 151 Latinoware 22:50:39 <aeperezt> I will use that ticket to talk about latinoware 22:51:13 <aeperezt> we have two tickets pending for Latinoware 22:51:37 <ramilton> só foi votado dois tickets e aprovados, tanto do mrbieirodantas e senna esta faltando votar os outros 22:51:42 <aeperezt> ticket 151 and 145 they both ask for sponsorship for latinoware 22:52:01 <aeperezt> so the first thing we need 22:52:15 <aeperezt> to count is who will have hosting 22:52:28 <mribeirodantas> ! 22:52:28 <aeperezt> we have reserve 8 beds for hosting 22:52:37 <aeperezt> so ramilton do you have a list 22:52:43 <ramilton> sim... 22:52:55 <ramilton> sena, mribeirodantas 22:52:58 <aeperezt> can you shared with us 22:53:00 <ramilton> esses dois foram aprovados 22:53:05 <ramilton> falta aprovar os outros 22:53:16 <mribeirodantas> ! 22:53:21 <aeperezt> do you have their tickets 22:53:31 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, go ahead 22:53:37 <mribeirodantas> Some people who requested budget for hosting in order to attend Latinoware will not attend the event anymore, due to personal reasons (or profissional reasons). I can't really remember WHO told me that, but I think it's in the brasil-marketing. 22:54:00 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, we need to confirm that 22:54:02 <mribeirodantas> Which leads us to believe there will be beds left 22:54:32 <ramilton> falta votar os tickets do fernando cabral, daniel bruno, marcelo barbosa 22:54:46 <mribeirodantas> The "list" we based our number of beds were 22:54:48 <mribeirodantas> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Latinoware_2013 22:55:44 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: Do we need to vote one a one? echeveandroid for example has his flight paid by Latinoware 22:55:51 <mribeirodantas> Do we have to vote for his bed? 22:56:02 <ramilton> falta votar esse ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/144 22:56:29 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, no 22:56:35 <aeperezt> exactly 22:56:42 <aeperezt> but we need to do a head count 22:56:48 <mribeirodantas> So we have bends confirmed so far for: mribeirodantas, ramilton, sena, echevesmaster 22:56:50 <ramilton> falta esse ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/145 22:56:50 <aeperezt> before we go forward 22:56:51 <mribeirodantas> right? 22:56:51 <mribeirodantas> beds* 22:57:25 <ramilton> certo mribeirodantas 22:57:48 <mribeirodantas> Ok, so according to the names I mentioned and ramilton, the one in charge of it, 50% of the beds are already occupied aeperezt 22:57:51 <aeperezt> so he have 4 beds free 22:57:52 <mribeirodantas> So we have 4 beds left. 22:57:56 <mribeirodantas> Yes. 22:58:42 <mribeirodantas> We could think of them as available to Danielbruno, Marcelo (firemanxbr), Fernando (ticket 145) and the ticket you mentioned. 22:58:42 <aeperezt> firemanxbr, I underestand there is a bus to get to latinoware can you take that? 22:58:57 <mribeirodantas> he's 9 hours idle :( 22:59:05 <mribeirodantas> I may talk to him later when he's online, if you wan to, aeperezt. 22:59:25 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: There would still be sponsorship for the bus fare? 22:59:34 <aeperezt> here is the catch 22:59:45 <tatica> 9 hours bus is nothing u_U 23:00:01 <aeperezt> we have only 1000 for latinoware and they are already asign 23:00:44 <mribeirodantas> I'm not aware of bus fares or how it works, but according to the link I just googled[0], it costs less than 100 USD 23:00:47 <mribeirodantas> #link http://www.buscaonibus.com.br/en/timetable/porto-alegre/foz-do-iguacu 23:00:50 <aeperezt> We have some spare budget but we still have half of the fiscal year left so not sure if will be a good idea to save it 23:01:36 <mribeirodantas> I see. 23:02:19 <aeperezt> then there is ticket 151 23:02:20 <ramilton> O Fernando precisa somente do quarto (Ticekt 145) 23:02:43 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: well, I believe we have rooms enough. All is left for the decision of flight sponsoring. 23:03:01 <aeperezt> ramilton, if he only need rooms count him 23:03:29 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: so no need for voting, in this case, right? 23:03:31 <yn1v> I agree, there are four bed left. If he only need lodging, he should be approved. 23:03:38 <mribeirodantas> yn1v: +1 23:03:44 <tatica> +1 23:03:46 <ramilton> ele já comprou a passagem de aviao dele, e só quer o quarto para hospedagem 23:03:56 <echeveandroid> +1 23:03:56 <yn1v> +1 23:04:02 <Danniel-Lara> +1 23:04:05 <aeperezt> ramilton, ticket 145 is for firemanxbr he request travel and board 23:04:19 <ramilton> +1 23:04:22 <ramilton> ok 23:04:39 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: What can we do for him? 23:04:40 <ramilton> isso mesmo aeperezt 23:04:54 <aeperezt> ramilton, you are talking about ticket 144 23:05:00 <aeperezt> fernando18 23:05:01 <ramilton> entao o ticket 145 foi aprovado aeperezt? 23:05:16 <mribeirodantas> ramilton: não 23:05:17 <mribeirodantas> 144 23:05:17 <ramilton> ele só precisa do quarto o ticket dele é 145 23:05:19 <mribeirodantas> O 145 estamos discutindo agora. 23:05:27 <mribeirodantas> O 145 é do fireman, ramilton 23:05:31 <mribeirodantas> 144 é do Fernando. 23:05:44 <ramilton> desculpe pelo engano 23:05:45 <aeperezt> ticket 144 is approved 23:05:48 <wolnei> +1 23:05:48 <ramilton> é isso mesmo 23:05:50 <ramilton> 144 23:05:50 <mribeirodantas> 144 is approved, no need for voting since he only needs a bed and we have 4 beds left 23:05:53 <ramilton> fernando18 23:05:54 <aeperezt> #agreed ticket 144 23:06:20 <aeperezt> #agreed ticket 143 senna 23:06:40 <ramilton> essa já tinha sido votado e aprovado aeperezt 23:06:56 <ramilton> também só pediu quarto 23:07:08 <aeperezt> so we have 5 people on room 23:07:11 <mribeirodantas> So we have three beds left and 5 occupied by: ramilton, mribeirodantas, senna, fernando, echevemaster 23:07:41 <aeperezt> I don't see ticket for echeveandroid 23:07:45 <ramilton> isso mesmo 23:07:50 <aeperezt> to latinoware 23:07:53 <mribeirodantas> There is no ticket requesting a room 23:07:58 <mribeirodantas> Latinoware paid his flight ticket, aeperezt 23:08:08 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, that is pretty nice 23:08:15 <echeveandroid> Latinoware is my sponsor 23:08:15 <mribeirodantas> Indeed :) 23:08:31 <mribeirodantas> echeveandroid: but you still need a bed, right? 23:08:32 <aeperezt> but help keep things in order to have the ticket for hosting 23:08:32 <viperboy001> yn1v: no estas en #fedora-ni? 23:08:37 <tatica> again, if flight is already paid and there are beds left I think there would be no problem assigning that extra bed 23:08:43 <mribeirodantas> tatica: +1 23:08:47 <yn1v> viperboy001, no 23:08:58 <mribeirodantas> echeveandroid: do you snore? 23:08:59 <mribeirodantas> jk ahaha 23:09:26 <aeperezt> I'm not denying it I want the ticket so we have history of how the resources where distributed 23:09:41 <echeveandroid> Lol 23:09:43 <aeperezt> echeveandroid, can you created the ticket 23:09:43 <mribeirodantas> echeveandroid: file a ticket requesting bed, please :) 23:10:00 <echeveandroid> Yes I will do aeperezt 23:10:00 <aeperezt> that way we can follow the track and see 23:10:15 <echeveandroid> No problem for that, I will do aeperezt 23:10:15 <aeperezt> not have to go to the meetings logs 23:10:59 <aeperezt> ok 23:11:01 <tatica> great :) 23:11:16 <mribeirodantas> :) 23:11:21 <echeveandroid> mribeirodantas no, I'm not snore, I'm in cellphone 23:11:23 <aeperezt> it helps with reports, thanks echeveandroid 23:11:34 <mribeirodantas> echeveandroid: then +1 lol 23:12:04 <aeperezt> ok 23:12:49 <echeveandroid> Thanks to you aeperezt 23:13:48 <aeperezt> so 23:14:22 <aeperezt> We have extra Budget and the ticket for Adrian from Argentina to latinoaware and we have a bed 23:14:29 <aeperezt> what do you think 23:14:41 <aeperezt> we have never sponsor him to any event and 23:14:53 <mribeirodantas> How much does he ticket ask for? 23:14:56 <aeperezt> he talk to me 23:14:58 <mribeirodantas> his* 23:15:12 <tatica> argentina flights to brazil are quite cheap if I can remember 23:15:22 <aeperezt> because he is a packager and want to take the oportunity to meet with echeveandroid to work on something 23:15:35 <ramilton> aeperezt, o valentin não vai participar esse ano não? 23:15:36 <yn1v> that's upon where are you in argentina. 23:15:49 <mribeirodantas> How much? 23:15:52 <aeperezt> ticket will be for 420 dls 23:15:53 <tatica> yn1v, yeap, true :/ 23:16:03 <aeperezt> he is on Buenos Aires 23:16:04 <mribeirodantas> wow 23:16:11 <mribeirodantas> 420 dls? that's more than what fireman is asking for 23:16:18 <mribeirodantas> and I thought brazilian flight tickets were expensive. 23:16:28 <echeveandroid> +1 aeperezt 23:16:39 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, it is cheap if you think it is an international flight 23:16:51 <tatica> it is 23:16:55 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, firemanxbr is expensive thinking it is an internal flight 23:16:58 <mribeirodantas> Things in Brazil are crazy. Going to Miami, Florida may be cheaper than going to Foz do Iguaçu :D 23:17:35 <yn1v> flight tickets price are based on the flow of travelers 23:17:43 <ramilton> com certeza o Brasil é muito caro. 23:18:57 <aeperezt> It could also be a good oportunity to motive him 23:19:07 <aeperezt> so what do you think 23:19:10 <aeperezt> vote 23:19:26 <wolnei> +1 23:19:29 <ramilton> +1 23:19:33 <lin> +1 23:19:36 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: we can only vote for one? 23:19:52 <mribeirodantas> Firemanxbr has been very active too, mostly with packagement. And I think he's nevever been sponsored before 23:19:56 <mribeirodantas> Or am I wrong? 23:20:05 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, not underestand 23:20:25 <mribeirodantas> You said we'd have to move money from other quarter in order to sponsor people for Latinoware 23:20:29 <mribeirodantas> I'd like to know how much we can get in trouble for that 23:20:30 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, we have budget to sponsor both if needed 23:20:47 <mribeirodantas> Oh, I see. I just got a bit worried cause you said you had to move money from other things and stuff 23:20:50 <mribeirodantas> Is it ok for you? 23:20:52 <aeperezt> but the question was if there is a bus if he can take it or not 23:21:06 <aeperezt> since he is not here I don't get a response 23:21:08 <mribeirodantas> I see. I will talk to him about going by bus and I will let you know, ok? 23:21:27 <aeperezt> so he has an option ticket 151 does not 23:21:37 <mribeirodantas> True. You are right 23:22:00 <mribeirodantas> In this case, there is no reason for not voting for this argentinian. I don't know him but I will trust you guys who had voted +1 23:22:00 <tatica> a 9 hour bus should not be a problem 23:22:03 <mribeirodantas> so +1 23:22:07 <mribeirodantas> tatica: I agree with you. 23:22:17 <tatica> people in Venezuela took a 12/16 hours bus to save costs and bring more people for fudcon 23:22:20 <ramilton> eu vou andar 36 horas tatica para chegar a foz 23:22:30 <mribeirodantas> 36h? :O Gosh! 23:22:33 <tatica> when a flight cost 150usd, bus was only 25usd (for example) 23:22:47 <aeperezt> ok 23:22:48 <tatica> ramilton, Manaus? 23:22:56 <aeperezt> tatica, vote? 23:22:56 <ramilton> Serra-Es 23:23:00 <tatica> unless is someone older or with special requirements 23:23:13 <tatica> if is a young and healthy person shouldn't be a problem 23:23:13 <mribeirodantas> I will have to stop in at least three to four airports to get to Latinoware. But I don't care, my ticket was tremendously cheap so it's ok 23:23:20 <mribeirodantas> :) 23:23:28 <mribeirodantas> tatica: You are right. 23:24:11 <yn1v> I am not sure I will take 36 hours of bus alone. 23:24:20 <aeperezt> who is left to vote tatica yn1v ? 23:24:25 <echeveandroid> mribeirodantas he is willing to take bus? 23:24:26 <tatica> +1 23:24:39 <mribeirodantas> echeveandroid: he's not online. He's been idle for over 7 hours 23:24:50 <mribeirodantas> I will talk to him once he's online and I will give a feedback to ou guys ASAP 23:25:14 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, he can add that info on the ticket 23:25:20 <mribeirodantas> Ok. 23:25:22 <mribeirodantas> :) 23:25:39 <aeperezt> ok#agreed ticket 145 travel + hosting Latinoware 23:25:48 <aeperezt> #agreed ticket 145 travel + hosting Latinoware 23:26:02 <aeperezt> #undo 23:26:02 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Agreed object at 0x261cb310> 23:26:10 <aeperezt> #agreed ticket 151 travel + hosting Latinoware 23:26:42 <aeperezt> #topic Ticket 145 23:27:11 <aeperezt> We will waith for his anwser depending if he can do bus ride or not 23:27:13 <mribeirodantas> Regarding 145 as we just decided, I will talk to him and ask him to updte the ticket with the information 23:27:27 <mribeirodantas> If it's possible and how much it will cost. 23:27:36 <aeperezt> and depending on that we see. 23:27:46 <tatica> +1 23:27:48 <mribeirodantas> +1 23:28:04 <Danniel-Lara> +1 23:28:08 <lin> +1 23:28:32 <yn1v> yn1v undecided 23:29:02 <aeperezt> yn1v, why ? 23:29:16 <yn1v> 36 hours is a looooooong trip by bus 23:29:29 <mribeirodantas> yn1v: it's not 36 hours 23:29:35 <aeperezt> yn1v, firemanxbr is a 9 hours bus ride 23:29:40 <echeveandroid> +1 23:29:48 <yn1v> oh, then +1 23:29:52 <mribeirodantas> ahah :) 23:30:00 <aeperezt> ok 23:30:01 <aeperezt> thanks 23:30:09 <aeperezt> #topic Latam Budget 23:30:22 <aeperezt> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget 23:30:57 <aeperezt> Thanks to yn1v who help me out to do the accounting for the Latam budget 23:31:18 <wolnei> ! 23:31:27 <aeperezt> go ahead wolnei 23:31:47 <aeperezt> please review the budget and what we have spend already 23:32:05 <wolnei> I need material for SoliSC CDs and stickers are made locally and claim refund? thaths is what we need for the event 23:32:13 <aeperezt> we had a really bad start but we are level now 23:33:07 <aeperezt> wolnei, you need to fill a ticket with the quotes and if approved then you can spend it and claim refund 23:33:42 <wolnei> after i need to add to that link you send? 23:34:10 <aeperezt> wolnei, I have the event on the Q3 but we have no money reserved specially for that as no one was responsable for that event 23:34:39 <wolnei> i need open a ticket to be the responsable? 23:34:41 <aeperezt> wolnei, so resources are low 23:35:10 <aeperezt> wolnei, Budget is a year plan 23:36:22 <tatica> brb 23:36:22 <aeperezt> at the begining of the fiscal year we fill up the events and we asign how much we need to spend on it depending on importance, type of event how much people will attend and go etc 23:36:42 <mribeirodantas> ! 23:36:52 <wolnei> so that my question we need assign the amount of event, if we only need material for him? 23:37:00 <aeperezt> at that moment the person who add the event become responsable for the event 23:37:48 <ramilton> aeperezt , em que momento preenchemos a wiki? 23:38:00 <aeperezt> if no one is responsable I did add some money for the biggers events that I new of like Latinoware based or based on what was requested the year before 23:38:30 <yn1v> Guys, I have to leave. I have to go and pick up my baby daughter 23:38:38 <mribeirodantas> yn1v: see you :) 23:38:50 <aeperezt> but as the year before there were not much control of if there are many events left out so for that we have like 300 dls for that Quarter 23:39:13 <mribeirodantas> ! 23:39:25 <aeperezt> wolnei, so plan what you need add a ticket but there is not much money to work on specially for Q3 and Q4 23:39:33 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, go ahead 23:39:40 <mribeirodantas> When will start budget planning for next year? 23:39:42 <wolnei> ok, i know that 23:40:03 <wolnei> i will search for the best price and open a ticket for next meeting 23:40:03 <aeperezt> ramilton, we should work that on the Q4 23:40:18 <wolnei> thanks 23:40:32 <ramilton> ok. aeperezt 23:40:55 <aeperezt> ramilton, so we have a bigger picture of what we can do and improve next year 23:41:25 <ramilton> vamos melhorar sim aeperezt 23:41:44 <aeperezt> keep in mind that we can ask a lots of money but then it will go to OSA and they will assign the amount based on what we spend the year before 23:41:47 <mribeirodantas> When? ... 23:41:59 <aeperezt> that will be on Q4 23:42:09 <aeperezt> Dec-Fed 2014 23:42:11 <mribeirodantas> During Q4 we decide the budget for th enext year? 23:42:22 <aeperezt> yes we have to work and ask 23:42:24 <mribeirodantas> I don't know how it works, so here's a suggestion. You could invite one person per active country in Fedora Project to help you on the budget planning, aeperezt. What do you think? 23:43:22 <aeperezt> like writing santa letter to see what it will give us 23:43:22 <tatica> ! 23:43:54 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, we did it on several meetings last year 23:43:59 <aeperezt> tatica, go ahead 23:44:01 <tatica> aeperezt, what would you change to make the budget request process better? based on the experience of this new organization 23:44:03 <mribeirodantas> Oh great, sorry then. 23:44:40 <aeperezt> tatica, we need more people responsable for the events at the begining of the year so we can plan better 23:44:55 <aeperezt> tatica, it works really well on FISL 23:45:17 <aeperezt> even do the amount we ask was not given we manage to bring every one who ask 23:45:24 <tatica> aeperezt, however, there are events that we know about 3 months prior, so sometimes we are unable to know from events that will be hosted on Q3 and Q4 (for example) 23:45:35 <tatica> what could we do to improve those cases? 23:45:41 <ramilton> funcionou bem mesmo. 23:46:01 <aeperezt> tatica, right that is swags and shipping budget plan 23:46:08 <tatica> perfect 23:46:23 <tatica> so, what's needed is more information and pre-planification for events, right? 23:46:33 <aeperezt> but if you look at the budget the first amount is what we ask the second what they give us 23:46:45 <aeperezt> tatica, right 23:47:26 <tatica> oka 23:47:26 <aeperezt> tatica, think about this way this is the first year, and we have been able to manage better than before 23:47:30 <tatica> thank you :) 23:47:39 <tatica> ujum, exactly 23:47:48 <aeperezt> and bring more people together and more active 23:48:13 <aeperezt> we may have our disagreements some times but it is working better than before 23:48:19 <aeperezt> we know what is next 23:48:20 <tatica> that's why i was curious, now that we are about to enter into Q3 we should start planning so Q4 doesn't come as a surprise 23:48:50 <aeperezt> tatica, yes but Q4 is the one with low budget 23:49:06 <tatica> no no, I mean, to plan next year 23:49:18 <tatica> since budget needs to be planned ahead I meant 23:49:19 <aeperezt> tatica, a yes 23:49:36 <aeperezt> that is why I wanted to show how are we doing 23:49:50 <tatica> indeed 23:50:02 <aeperezt> tatica, there is another issue that is not show here 23:50:32 <aeperezt> it is difficult to transfer money from one quarter to the other 23:50:38 <aeperezt> they allow us to do that 23:50:53 <aeperezt> but we need to keep that in mind for the next year 23:51:01 <tatica> perfect 23:51:17 <tatica> are all transfers done by paypal? or are we using something else? (the CC, western, etc) 23:51:20 <aeperezt> means we need to plan better and have a more disipline on expending 23:52:04 <aeperezt> tatica, no only paypal and if Neville can pay for it directly 23:52:17 <tatica> perfect, that was always an issue too 23:52:20 <aeperezt> better but that case works only with plane tickets 23:52:28 <tatica> well, that helps a lot :) 23:52:53 <aeperezt> tatica, right we need to figured out how to put money in countores like Peru 23:53:11 <tatica> they can only accept wire transfers, right? :/ 23:53:15 <aeperezt> we can do wire transfer but it is pretty complicated and it is expensives 23:53:31 <aeperezt> tatica, they can do wester union 23:53:51 <aeperezt> but that is not posible with Fedora as wester union only accept cash 23:53:56 <aeperezt> not credit card 23:54:03 <tatica> ouch 23:55:07 <tatica> hmmm the only person that I know has a way to receive money easily is no longer active in Fedora :/ 23:55:33 <tatica> well, I could try to work on a form so people can fill it with events and that 23:55:55 <tatica> either the ones they attended, they want to go or they know about 23:56:08 <aeperezt> there are new options like a credit card that allow you to get paypal active no matter what country you are 23:56:09 <tatica> it's already at the survey, but might help to make it more focused on events/budgets 23:56:14 <aeperezt> but we have not try it 23:56:25 <tatica> aeperezt, that could be awesome 23:56:34 <aeperezt> so I will not risk putting money on then until we have tested 23:56:37 <aeperezt> I have one 23:56:52 <aeperezt> but I have not transfer the minimal 100 dls to try it 23:57:03 <aeperezt> but now I can get paypal money 23:57:54 <aeperezt> any other questions about the budget 23:58:19 <tatica> not at the moment from my side, thank you for all the clarification :) 23:58:29 <mribeirodantas> Thank you too for making it clear to us :) 23:58:50 <aeperezt> ok 23:58:59 <aeperezt> thanks for comming great meeting 23:59:10 <aeperezt> #topic open floor 23:59:14 <tatica> thank you! :D 23:59:17 <aeperezt> any other issue 23:59:23 <mribeirodantas> I'd like to mention an invitation I received a few days ago :) 23:59:34 <aeperezt> ok go ahead 00:00:05 <mribeirodantas> Someone from a private university in my city sent me a message asking me to go there on the 9th of September to give a lecture about Fedora Project and Fedora and then, after it, install along with all the students of one major, Fedora in the computer's lab. 00:00:33 <mribeirodantas> They already downloaded the ISOs, which is great, since I don't have any media left 00:00:34 <aeperezt> +1 00:00:38 <ramilton> +1 00:00:41 <tatica> +1 00:00:47 <Danniel-Lara> +1 00:00:50 <mribeirodantas> I invited apahim to help me, since there will be lots of students and computers and questions probably 00:01:04 <aeperezt> love it 00:01:04 <tatica> mribeirodantas, is that at your hometown? 00:01:08 <mribeirodantas> Yes. 00:01:12 <wolnei> great 00:01:28 <tatica> mribeirodantas, would be great if you could document it 00:01:29 <mribeirodantas> I was also invited to participate in an event to speak about Free Software in a "discussion table". Can't remember the word right now ahaha 00:01:38 <tatica> so the experience can be shared and replicated 00:01:45 <ramilton> mribeirodantas, parabéns pelo belo trabalho. 00:01:48 <mribeirodantas> I will try to mention Fedora whenever it's possible. I wish I had medias to distribute, but I will try to burn them by myself 00:01:57 <mribeirodantas> tatica: how come? a report? 00:02:14 <mribeirodantas> ramilton: obrigado :) 00:02:23 <tatica> mribeirodantas, report, documentation on how you did it, pictures, quotes from the students... anything helps :) 00:02:36 <mribeirodantas> I have small reports of everything I do in my wiki page 00:02:37 <mribeirodantas> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mribeirodantas/reports 00:02:55 <mribeirodantas> By the way, it's a proceduer lmvaz has suggested and that some people are doing now. I think it's a good model to be followed by other LATAM contributors. 00:03:18 <tatica> love it! 00:03:24 * tatica will do it now too! 00:03:27 <mribeirodantas> :) 00:03:29 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, but it will be good to have it on the planet 00:03:29 <tatica> awesome! 00:03:33 <tatica> yeap 00:03:35 <mribeirodantas> aeperezt: yeah, I will do it too :D 00:03:46 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas, nice 00:04:02 <tatica> mribeirodantas, and have a more specific report on how you made the instalations and that, more like a documentation that other people willing to do the same can download and share 00:04:48 <aeperezt> if notting more 00:04:51 <mribeirodantas> oh, I see tatica 00:04:52 <mribeirodantas> great. 00:04:55 <aeperezt> let close the meeting 00:04:55 <ramilton> na proxima semana estarei representando o projeto fedora em um grande evento. Onde estará participando 12 cidades. 00:05:07 <ramilton> boa noite a todos... 00:05:10 <mribeirodantas> ramilton: +1 00:05:13 <mribeirodantas> Parabéns e boa sorte :) 00:05:17 <aeperezt> boa noite 00:05:18 <mribeirodantas> Good night everybody 00:05:20 <aeperezt> buenas noches 00:05:21 <ramilton> vlw 00:05:23 <mribeirodantas> It's always great to meet you weekely on Wednesday 00:05:23 <aeperezt> good night 00:05:28 <aeperezt> #endmeeting