19:01:04 <Mitzie> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing Weekly meeting 23/09/2013
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19:01:13 <Mitzie> #topic Roll-Call
19:01:20 <jzb> Howdy all. I'm here.
19:01:20 <Mitzie> #chair mitzie croberts
19:01:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Mitzie croberts mitzie
19:01:28 <mailga> .fas mailga
19:01:29 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <mailga@fedoraonline.it>
19:01:46 <Mitzie> Hello everyone and welcome to another Marketing meeting
19:01:50 <Mitzie> ping jzb
19:02:01 <jzb> ^^^
19:02:01 <Croberts> .fas chrisroberts
19:02:02 <zodbot> Croberts: chrisroberts 'Chris Roberts' <croberts@cintrixhosting.com>
19:02:04 <Mitzie> #chair jzb
19:02:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: Mitzie croberts jzb mitzie
19:02:14 <Mitzie> .fas mitzie
19:02:14 <zodbot> Mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@outlook.com>
19:02:21 <jzb> Mitzie: you rang?
19:02:33 <Mitzie> Sorry jzb I didn't see you were here ;)
19:02:43 <Croberts> jzb: we wanted to see if you were going to be here for the meeting
19:03:12 <Mitzie> ping tatica
19:03:32 <jzb> Croberts: I are
19:03:42 <Croberts> .ping tatica
19:03:42 <zodbot> pong
19:04:20 <Mitzie> So I know that some stuff must be said about the F20 Alpha release tomorrow so we will start with this topic
19:05:09 <jzb> Mitzie: We've had quite a bit of discussion about the alpha release announcement on -marketing
19:05:31 <jzb> the release announcement is more or less done, I'm formatting it right now and will forward on to the appropriate folks to send out tomorrow.
19:05:43 <jzb> we should also put something up on Fedora Magazine
19:05:56 <Croberts> +1 jzb
19:05:59 <Mitzie> Great jzb! So we will start with the Magazine
19:05:59 <jzb> and, of course, everybody should go nuts promoting it on the facetweets and such.
19:06:15 <Mitzie> #topic Fedora Magazine
19:06:36 <Mitzie> So jzb sent out an email about the headlines formating
19:06:54 <Mitzie> jzb?
19:07:09 <jzb> Yeah, I just want us to be consistent
19:07:19 <jzb> I don't really have a strong opinion - well, I have a small opinion
19:07:29 <jzb> but I would like us to pick one + stick with it.
19:07:43 <Mitzie> it was a nice observation! Don't worry!
19:07:55 <jzb> (I have a strong opinion on the Oxford comma)
19:08:27 <Croberts> I like the AP style that you sent out
19:08:45 <Mitzie> Me too
19:08:52 <jzb> so, fun story
19:09:00 <jzb> AP Style is used to mean a few different things
19:09:02 <jzb> o.O
19:09:56 <Mitzie> yes, an eg of the AP style is: "Voting for Fedora 20 Name"
19:10:24 <jzb> Yeah, that's what I've always considered AP style
19:10:27 <jzb> but then there's this:
19:10:31 <jzb> AP headlines cap only first word and proper names or proper abbreviations.
19:10:39 <jzb> http://www.apstylebook.com/?do=ask_editor&pg=faq
19:10:40 <Croberts> I think once we decide in the meeting on the style we should go back and correct the existing posts
19:10:48 <jzb> I've always known AP style like this:
19:11:30 <jzb> Why Not Cap Everything, if it's OK with Your Audience?
19:11:43 <jzb> so... I may have muddied the waters a bit unfortunately.
19:12:34 <Croberts> I think it looks better doing caps on the first word and proper names/abbreviations
19:12:35 <Mitzie> So AP style? Definitely +1 from me
19:12:47 <mailga> -1
19:12:54 <jzb> Croberts: So you want a Fedora Magazine style like this?
19:13:05 <Mitzie> Yes, the 1st word definitely needs to be caped
19:13:05 <jzb> and not: So You Want a Fedora Style Like This?
19:13:27 <jzb> Mitzie: I think that's the only thing they all agree on :-)
19:14:24 <jzb> How about we continue this discussion on the mailing list?
19:14:32 <jzb> I might put together a proposed style guide w/examples this week.
19:14:38 <Croberts> jzb: +1
19:14:42 <Mitzie> Sure!
19:14:53 <jzb> I'm going to ping Shaun McCance to see if anybody has a proto style guide somewhere.
19:15:35 <jzb> EOF from me on that topic :)
19:16:08 <Mitzie> ok then settled
19:16:22 <Mitzie> By the way Great post jzb!
19:16:47 <jzb> Mitzie: the 10th anniversary one, you mean?
19:16:59 <Mitzie> yes!
19:17:02 <jzb> thank you
19:17:43 <Mitzie> I also added the countdown for the F20 release in the magazine, cause I think it is a must-have
19:17:58 <Croberts> I did see the countdown that is a cool widget
19:18:05 <Croberts> jzb: yes that was a nice post
19:18:19 <Croberts> I dont see any more instances of SSL unless you guys have seen any
19:20:04 <Croberts> I am sure you guys have seen the videos email going through the mailing list, I have posted a few on the magazine
19:20:46 <Mitzie> Yes, I think it is all fixed (about the SSL) Also the magazine loads very fast (comparing 1 week ago :))
19:21:35 <Mitzie> Yes, good work
19:21:54 <Mitzie> Althugh I think we could merge the 2 videos about the infra
19:22:09 <Mitzie> (put them in one post)
19:22:19 <Mitzie> Just saying
19:22:27 <Croberts> I agree that could be done, did you want to edit my post?
19:23:49 <Mitzie> Anyway I don't have a problem with that
19:24:17 <Croberts> cool :)
19:24:38 <Croberts> how are we with updates?
19:24:41 <Croberts> on the site
19:25:10 <Mitzie> Also I made all the plugins updates (updating the themes as well would not matter, because the ones need update are deactivated)
19:25:23 <Mitzie> So I think we could upgrade to the new version of WP
19:25:42 <Croberts> jzb: can you update us
19:26:15 <jzb> Croberts: Yeah, I need to get that done this week.
19:26:22 <jzb> apologies - I was out all last week.
19:26:29 <Croberts> no worries
19:27:42 <Croberts> I will also have the join.fp.o section finished for the magazine, letting people know they can contribute
19:27:55 <Mitzie> Actually it is just a button, it's not a big deal
19:28:08 <Mitzie> I am updating
19:29:22 <Croberts> I need to email tatica and see if she has finished the magazine logo for the wiki
19:29:31 <Croberts> so we can add that section to the bottom of the page
19:30:01 <Mitzie> *Updated
19:30:13 <Mitzie> Good croberts!
19:30:57 <Mitzie> And also ruth said she will submit a ticket for a magazine badge to be created
19:31:10 <Mitzie> But I don't know the status of that
19:31:15 <Croberts> I do see those in the badges trac, I think they are waiting for artwork now
19:31:47 <Mitzie> ok :)
19:31:59 <Mitzie> Any other subject we should cover?
19:32:08 <Croberts> Also we have a new wiki page that Mitzie created, its to teach people how to make posts to the site
19:32:10 <Croberts> +1
19:32:18 <Croberts> I am adding pictures to the page as well
19:32:54 <Mitzie> +1 croberts!
19:32:59 <Mitzie> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Howtopost
19:32:59 <jzb> Mitzie: do we have any 10th anniversary graphics in process?
19:33:00 <Croberts> Someone wanted to join the old news team, I forwared his message to marketing, and sent him to the wiki to start getting involved, hopefully he joins
19:33:11 <jzb> oh, speaking of...
19:33:21 * Croberts thinks we should get rid of the old fas groups that are inactive
19:33:29 <jzb> so I started on the FPL retrospective. I have responses from most of our FPLs but nothing from two of them
19:33:29 <Croberts> ie news/magazine
19:34:09 <jzb> And I'm thinking it may make more sense to "start the clock" on the 10th anniversary on the release of Fedora Core 1 in November rather than yesterday. Thoughts?
19:35:06 <Mitzie> Sure, why not? So it will be an article every month?
19:35:31 <jzb> Mitzie: yes
19:35:57 <jzb> is tatica the go-to person for graphics?
19:36:31 <Croberts> jzb: yes she is
19:36:35 <Mitzie> yes jzb
19:36:39 <jzb> OK, I'll ping her separately
19:36:43 <jzb> that's all I've got this week
19:36:58 <Croberts> I should have the History of Fedora done in the next few weeks as well
19:37:02 * jzb will be much more available this week what with not being in New Orleans.
19:37:18 <Croberts> I will push the bookmarks to the repo as well
19:37:47 <Mitzie> Great folks!
19:38:23 <Mitzie> #Open Floor
19:38:31 <Mitzie> #topic Open Floor
19:38:39 <Mitzie> Sorry ;)
19:39:22 <Croberts> All I have is that we got the SSl issue fixed :P
19:39:26 <Croberts> SSL*
19:39:57 <Mitzie> Also jzb, I was reading the schedule for the 10th anniversary posts. Do you think we should include this video in your post about the 10 years? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOFXBGh6DZ0)
19:40:21 <jzb> Mitzie: sure
19:40:27 <nirik> so, the slowness issues are taken care of now? or still work to be done there?
19:40:50 <nirik> unrelated: should fedora magazine rss be subscribed to fedora planet for more exposure? ;)
19:41:15 <Croberts> nirik: the site is moving along much better :) did you want me to close the trac ticket?
19:41:27 <Croberts> nirik: I agree we should have something like that
19:41:28 <Mitzie> They definitely still exist nirik, but it was a great improvement
19:41:29 <nirik> Croberts: if there's nothing further that needs doing, sure. ;)
19:41:44 <Mitzie> jzb, I will include it in your post
19:42:17 <Croberts> Mitzie, can you add the issues you are still seeing to the trac ticket?
19:42:19 <nirik> anyone should be able to add the fedora magazine rss to their .planet file and it should get picked up.
19:42:40 <Croberts> mitzie: i have not seen any issues since we fixed things last
19:42:54 <Mitzie> You mean about the slowness?
19:43:02 <nirik> what all did you change out of curiosity?
19:43:12 <Croberts> mitzie: yes please
19:43:23 <jzb> Mitzie: oh, I thought you meant the FPL retrospective
19:43:31 <jzb> I don't know that's a fit for the current post
19:43:42 <Mitzie> no, about the post you made now
19:43:46 <Mitzie> Ok :)
19:44:30 <Croberts> nirik: I know mitzie said he talked to someone about changing the domain over to a direct point rather than a proxy, I went through the repo and looked at the settings but didnt see any ssl being forced. We also added the extension you advised of, the w3 performance
19:44:43 <nirik> ah, ok.
19:45:06 <nirik> yeah, we can repoint it directly after alpha is out (we are in freeze and that would need changes to the proxies)
19:45:13 <Mitzie> but I still recommend investing in resources on the openshift account
19:45:40 <nirik> Mitzie: well, we can have openshift people look, but when we went thru this with flocktofedora it was not at all a resource issue.
19:45:56 <Croberts> nirik: this is off topic but when is the freeze over? I updated the FAS news link in the github repo, and was going to wait till the freeze was over to upload my changes
19:46:10 <Mitzie> The theme should be heavy for the site to handle
19:46:14 <Croberts> so that the news link points to the magazine wiki page
19:46:16 <nirik> Croberts: wed morning... 24 hours or so after alpha goes out
19:46:22 * Croberts notes that
19:46:29 * nirik will announce it on infra list, etc.
19:47:24 <Croberts> Are we able to tweak the theme at all like the flock website? maybe get Tatica involved
19:47:57 <Mitzie> maiki build the child theme we are currently using, but I think he is out now
19:47:59 <nirik> I would surely think so
19:48:38 <Croberts> ok sounds good
19:49:21 <Mitzie> Anything else we should cover?
19:49:37 <Croberts> That is all I have at the moment
19:49:41 <nirik> I have one last thing...
19:49:51 <Mitzie> sure nirik
19:50:03 <nirik> on the fedora 20 alpha announcement... should I get that final draft from the wiki page? or will someone send via email?
19:50:57 <Croberts> jzb: can you add kevin to your email when you send out the annoucment
19:51:19 <Croberts> annoucement*
19:51:37 <Croberts> announcement* ignore my awful spelling today
19:51:41 * nirik nods. Whenever there's a final draft. ;)
19:51:42 <nirik> thanks
19:52:07 <Croberts> awesome :)
19:52:18 <Mitzie> jzb sent out a reply on that mail atm
19:52:51 <Mitzie> (I mean 7 minutes ago :P) It came to me now
19:53:52 <Mitzie> Also mailga amazing post on the magazine!
19:54:13 <Croberts> yes mailga +1
19:54:20 <Croberts> good featured image as well
19:54:31 <mailga> thx Mitzie many thanks to Joerg and Fabian.
19:54:40 <Mitzie> Anything else we need to cover? We should wrap it up..
19:55:47 <Croberts> that is all I have, mitzie can you post the other issues in the trac ticket
19:56:00 <Mitzie> about the domain?
19:56:21 <Croberts> I am on the Infranstructure team, so I can grab the ticket and watch over it
19:56:31 <Croberts> just about the slowness
19:56:34 <Croberts> or any issues
19:56:50 <Croberts> for me it has been running alot better, but that does not mean something is still going on
19:57:27 <Mitzie> About the slowness, I think we did anything we could (Just to totally remove the ssl after the freeze, and we should be okay)
19:57:44 <Mitzie> I will write about the domain issues
19:58:20 <Croberts> ok sounds good :)
19:59:02 <Mitzie> Going in 1..
20:00:50 <Mitzie> Thanks everyone for attending, next meeting is next week, same time. I will send out a reminder as well the previous day.
20:00:53 <Mitzie> #endmeeting