01:04:55 <masta> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:04:55 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 9 01:04:55 2013 UTC. The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:04:55 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:04:55 <masta> #meetingname FAmNA 01:04:56 <masta> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:04:56 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:05:07 <masta> It's that time again 01:05:16 <masta> Weekly FAmNA meeting 01:05:20 <masta> hello all 01:05:23 <award3535> hello 01:05:28 <wrnash1> Hi 01:05:50 <masta> #chair award3535 wrnash1 nb 01:05:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 masta nb wrnash1 01:06:19 * inode0 is here now 01:06:30 <masta> #chair inode0 01:06:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 inode0 masta nb wrnash1 01:06:35 <award3535> evening inode0 01:06:37 <masta> evening inode0 01:07:05 <nb> hi 01:07:12 <award3535> inode0 read your email earlier 01:07:13 <wrnash1> Evening inode0 01:07:20 <award3535> evening nb 01:07:26 <masta> brb folks... got to run to the kitchen for 90 seconds 01:08:12 <award3535> I can share the wealth with running meetings, since I am usually here and available 01:08:24 <masta> ok back 01:08:36 <masta> alright let's get down to business 01:08:51 <masta> #topic === Announcements === 01:09:06 <masta> does anybody have an announcement ? 01:09:48 <masta> ok then 01:09:57 <masta> #topic === Tickets === 01:10:13 <masta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:10:30 * masta notes there are zero tickets 01:10:37 <masta> ok then... moving on 01:10:47 <award3535> well that good be a bad thing too 01:10:51 <inode0> There is the request for help from jzb on the mailing list. 01:11:28 <award3535> USENIX LISA 2010? 01:11:29 <inode0> LISA 01:11:30 <masta> does anybody request a topic before I move to open floor? 01:11:43 <inode0> not 2010 though, we had that one already :) 01:11:53 <award3535> where is it located? 01:12:29 <award3535> yes copied it from the first sentence 01:12:34 <masta> #topic == Open Floor === 01:12:45 * masta goes to the list to read the request 01:13:39 <award3535> sounds like NC area 01:13:56 <inode0> its website says DC 01:14:39 <award3535> I didnt check it, but will shortly 01:15:28 <masta> #info LISA 2013 01:15:33 <masta> #link https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa13 01:16:15 <nb> oh i have something 01:16:30 <nb> can we officially vote on ordering 10k case badges for $2k in the meeting (we kinda informally voted after the last meeting) 01:16:34 <masta> #info We have an opportunity to have a Fedora booth (no charge to Fedora) at USENIX LISA. 01:16:43 <nb> but we have to wait to actually order them until the vendor gets added to the purchase order system 01:16:47 <nb> we can't charge that much on a CC anymore 01:17:05 <masta> #info get in touch with jzb for details 01:17:53 * inode0 thinks someone should keep us up on the rules since I have no reason at to think there is such a limit 01:18:20 <masta> evidently a new rule 01:18:40 <inode0> wouldn't you expect they would tell people with credit cards about new rules? 01:19:20 <award3535> this would be an expensive trip lodging in the DC area isnt cheap 01:19:20 <masta> so the limit for CC is $999.99... anything higher requires a purchase order 01:20:07 * inode0 will eventually ask but having not been told that I'm not sure what to think 01:20:12 <inode0> where did that come from? 01:20:13 <masta> inode0: supposedly.. that is what Ruth claimed in the last meeting, I can try to verify that 01:20:43 <masta> ok so back on track... 01:21:04 <masta> nb has proposed we consider the vote for case badges 01:21:12 <inode0> who is going to contact jzb and make sure LISA is taken care of? 01:21:23 <masta> that we agree to spend $2k of our budget on case badges 01:21:33 <nb> inode0, i do not know. I know last time we did spend $2k on dgilmore's cc 01:22:32 <nb> but yeah, all i know is what ruth was saying at our meeting last week 01:22:35 <masta> inode0: I'll respond, and get the tread going and see what we can do. 01:22:49 <masta> #action Masta to respond to jzb and get the ball rolling on LISA 01:23:18 <inode0> so why buy 10k of them? 01:24:13 <inode0> we don't need a 10 year supply do we? :) 01:24:22 <masta> #idea Spend approximately $2,000 USD from FAmNA budget towards the purchase of case badges. 01:24:33 <nb> well. we had about 5k or so out of our order of 10k last time and we are out already 01:24:55 <inode0> are we or are they just missing? 01:25:02 <nb> ben suggested 12k but i already had quote for 10k, and they said that 12k wouldn't be any cheaper 01:25:05 <inode0> I find it hard to believe we went through 5k 01:25:18 <nb> inode0, I only have about 15 or so strips left 01:25:32 <nb> i think most of the other shippers have said they have none/very few 01:25:34 <inode0> how long did the 5k last? 01:25:36 <award3535> in NO I only had about 50 and came home with about 10 01:25:49 <nb> inode0, i think it was a year or so ago 01:26:06 <inode0> I am having a hard time with this math 01:26:27 <inode0> divide 5k by the number of events we did and I don't see how we could possibly have done that 01:26:48 <nb> award3535, are you referring to strips or individual badges 01:27:02 <award3535> nb, individual 01:27:06 <nb> oh 01:27:44 <award3535> the popular item was the large stickers and pens, I went through a lot in NO 01:28:00 <masta> the case badges are popular swag, they tend to go fast. But it is shocking if they have been consumed so fast 01:28:09 <masta> so many.. 01:28:24 * inode0 thinks there must be some pile of them somewhere 01:28:37 <award3535> the sticker that covers the window key was also popular and I went through all of what I had 01:28:38 <masta> if that is true, we had so many, and they are now all gone... would like to verify that is true, and if true... order more 01:28:43 <nb> i may have sent 6k elsewhere, i think it was 2k for apac 2k emea 2k latam 01:28:47 <nb> so we might have only had 4k 01:28:51 <inode0> but my question regardless is why 10k? that must be a several year supply 01:28:52 * nb should keep better records :( 01:29:24 <inode0> and if we can simplify things by buying 4k instead why not? 01:29:24 <nb> I can get a quote for less, if we don't want to spend that much money 01:29:47 <inode0> see what we can get for $999.99 01:29:53 <masta> =) 01:30:06 <nb> yeah good idea 01:30:07 <masta> inode0: I like the way you think. 01:30:18 <nb> it'd greatly simplify the process if we could just have someone call them with a cc # like we did before 01:30:23 <inode0> or see if they will just send us some every quarter but give us a good deal 01:31:13 <award3535> well, I dont have one of those, but agree that 999 would fly under the purchase order requirement 01:31:28 <masta> also folks, I want to get a handle on our remaining budget, so when we these decision come back ... we know how much we have left for swag spending. 01:31:44 <inode0> good luck with that 01:31:53 <masta> yeah I know 01:32:34 <masta> ok so we will decide this in a future meeting? 01:32:41 <inode0> nb: maybe ask for a price for 2k per quarter (delivered and billable) 01:33:03 <inode0> for a year or something 01:33:29 <inode0> not sure if they would do that for us but maybe 01:35:59 <inode0> famsco is again cranky about our budget so someone keeping track of it would be helpful 01:36:16 <inode0> but if there aren't people willing to spend it it is going to be a problem anyway 01:36:20 <nb> they are fussing we aren't spending enough 01:36:25 <nb> which is one reason i suggested getting 2k 01:36:34 <nb> but that might take a while since it takes forever to get a vendor added 01:36:38 <inode0> they are fussing we aren't keeping track of it mostly 01:37:00 <inode0> we can buy some every month nb - it doesn't have to be a gigantic order 01:37:11 <nb> true 01:37:20 <nb> then it would be under 1k each time 01:37:26 <award3535> +1 to buying small amounts 01:37:44 <inode0> it costs more but if they want to make it hard to save money I can't help it 01:39:17 * inode0 has some spending approved and hasn't had time to follow through as well - cups, stress balls, and something else 01:39:36 <inode0> visors 01:40:40 <masta> We should for sure try to knock out the swag spending 01:43:24 <masta> ok folks 01:43:49 <masta> we will see about the smaller purchase for case badges and talk abotu that again 01:44:04 <masta> #info talk abotu case badge in a future meeting 01:44:11 <masta> #undo 01:44:11 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x537f0d90> 01:44:17 <masta> #info talk about case badge in a future meeting 01:44:40 <masta> So one thing I wanted to mention... I'm going to unload some left over swag at the Big Android BBQ 01:45:02 <masta> http://www.bigandroidbbq.com/ 01:45:57 <masta> #info masta will distribute Fedora install media and his small stash of stickers at the Big Android BBQ 01:46:11 <masta> #link http://www.bigandroidbbq.com/ 01:46:42 <inode0> that sounded like a good time 01:46:59 <award3535> that is way too cool, wish I could be there 01:47:01 <masta> Also will be evaluating this event for possible future sponsorship possibility 01:47:19 <masta> so it's a scout mission too 01:47:19 <award3535> +1 from me, I would go 01:47:39 <wrnash1> +1 I would like to go also 01:47:44 <masta> will place dvd and stickers on tables and then observe 01:48:33 <masta> that is all from me 01:48:45 <award3535> oh yeah, let us know how it goes 01:49:57 <masta> anybody have anything else ?? 01:50:10 * masta will shutdown the meeting soon 01:50:52 <award3535> nothing from me 01:51:33 <masta> Thanks all 01:51:37 <masta> #endmeeting