15:01:23 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig
15:01:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Oct 22 15:01:23 2013 UTC.  The chair is rdieter. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:01:36 <rdieter> #meetingname kde-sig
15:01:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig'
15:01:41 <rdieter> #topic roll call
15:01:57 <Kevin_Kofler> Present.
15:02:00 <rdieter> hi all, who's present for a (hopefully) quick meeting today?
15:02:33 <Kevin_Kofler> import meeting.quick ;-)
15:02:35 <jgrulich> me
15:03:24 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: I'm encountering some wierd runtime error
15:04:15 <Kevin_Kofler> ;-)
15:04:48 <rdieter> #info rdieter Kevin_Kofler jgrulich present
15:04:52 <rdieter> #chair Kevin_Kofler jgrulich
15:04:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler jgrulich rdieter
15:04:54 <mbriza> present
15:07:19 <rdieter> #info mbriza too
15:07:21 <rdieter> #chair mbriza
15:07:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler jgrulich mbriza rdieter
15:07:23 <rdieter> #topic agenda
15:07:28 <rdieter> alrighty, what to discuss today?
15:07:56 <Kevin_Kofler> Any updates about that Test Day?
15:08:47 <mbriza> i'll take a look to be sure
15:09:04 <mbriza> no, nothing
15:10:25 <rdieter> might be a quick meeting indeed.
15:10:30 <Kevin_Kofler> And the F20 status? How are things looking blocker-wise?
15:10:55 * rdieter is not aware of any kde-related blockers (yet)
15:11:35 <Kevin_Kofler> Well, then, I can't really think of anything else to discuss…
15:12:08 * rdieter will await another 2 minutes for something to discuss...
15:12:25 <rdieter> meh,
15:12:29 <rdieter> #topic open discussion
15:13:01 <rdieter> lacking topics for agenda... just wanted to throw out that I'm working on kde-4.11.x builds for el6 in my spare moments
15:13:37 <rdieter> and syncing any non-intrusive changes back to our fedora packaging
15:13:43 <Kevin_Kofler> Oh, do we want to have another try at proposing KDE by default (rehashing my rejected F16 Feature, updating the argumentation etc.)?
15:14:14 <rdieter> afk, tech call
15:14:14 <Kevin_Kofler> At least mitr claims that FESCo is now interested in changing away from GNOME 3.
15:14:21 <mbriza> Kevin_Kofler: sure, why not
15:14:43 <Kevin_Kofler> But with no support from KDE SIG as a whole, the feature won't go anywhere, like last time. :-(
15:15:07 <mbriza> i mean, at least to create the fuss to let others know we're here too :)
15:15:18 <Kevin_Kofler> (I filed it, but it had only my name on it and nobody else wanted to put their name on it, nor did the SIG support it as a group.)
15:16:25 <Kevin_Kofler> This was the old proposal that got rejected: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KDE_Plasma_Desktop_by_default
15:16:25 <ltinkl> Kevin_Kofler: I'd support it, let's see what the new working groups will bring
15:16:52 <Kevin_Kofler> Of course it would have to be updated to the new Change format and the rationale needs to be updated, too.
15:17:05 <Kevin_Kofler> (KDE 4.6 vs. GNOME 3.2 isn't really what we are at anymore. ;-) )
15:21:35 * rdieter is +0, not particularly excited about the fights that will ensue, but won't block someone else willing to defend it
15:25:14 <Kevin_Kofler> So, anything else to discuss?
15:25:22 <Kevin_Kofler> I think we can close the meeting…
15:25:54 <rdieter> ok, thanks everyone
15:25:57 <rdieter> #endmeeting