14:00:02 <randomuser> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
14:00:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Nov 25 14:00:02 2013 UTC.  The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:02 <randomuser> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:00:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:00:03 <randomuser> #topic Roll Call
14:00:18 * jjmcd 
14:00:32 <randomuser> good morning, jjmcd
14:00:47 <jjmcd> How is Pete this Monday morning?
14:01:15 <randomuser> optimistic, so far :)
14:01:19 * pbokoc 
14:01:29 * yruseva here
14:01:48 <jjmcd> Fresh week, fresh opportunities.  But I haven't had enough coffee to be firing on all cylinders yet
14:02:06 * randomuser polishes off his first cup
14:02:39 * pbokoc had about 6 already
14:02:51 <pbokoc> but then again it's 3 PM
14:03:43 <jjmcd> So unfair those Europeans get a head start
14:04:01 <jjmcd> (and generally better coffee, too)
14:04:14 <randomuser> indeed
14:05:24 <randomuser> #topic release notes
14:05:43 <randomuser> jjmcd, are your updates in tx?
14:05:59 <jjmcd> no, been a week of storms and traveling, haven't even looked at it
14:06:27 <randomuser> i can push POTs if you like
14:07:29 <jjmcd> I would appreciate that.  It will take me some time as I have some re-learning to do
14:07:50 <randomuser> sure, no problem
14:08:26 <randomuser> I'll probably publish sometime soon as well
14:08:45 * randomuser meant to publish at beta, oops
14:09:17 * jjmcd did grab a beta repodata
14:09:54 <randomuser> ah, that too
14:10:56 <randomuser> moving on, then
14:11:00 <randomuser> #topic Guide Status
14:11:38 <randomuser> #info Pete wants to get some content pumped into the new MultiBoot guide and get it published
14:12:00 <randomuser> as always, the community has lots of questions such a guide could answer
14:13:07 <ciupicri> speaking of booting, it wouldn't hurt if Fedora would clarify how compliant it is with http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/
14:13:42 <randomuser> ohhh, good reference, ciupicri !
14:14:06 <randomuser> i'll make a note of that
14:15:59 <randomuser> this is probably something that should be elaborated on the list, but it might be a good idea to consider some sort of process for stating our intents for a guide in advance
14:16:07 <randomuser> bugs at least
14:16:32 <randomuser> so that people that want to help can have a list of things that need doing
14:16:49 <randomuser> #info Check bugzilla for docs work, and open bugs too
14:17:17 <ciupicri> what about this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998327 ? It's been a while and it still hasn't been fixed
14:17:54 <randomuser> ciupicri, can I come back to that under a different #topic?
14:17:57 <randomuser> (i
14:18:01 <randomuser> hrm
14:18:05 <randomuser> i'm sure it won't be long
14:18:29 <ciupicri> sorry, I thought that was on topic, but I'll wait
14:19:00 <randomuser> pbokoc, jhradilek - anything to say under the heading of "guides" ?
14:19:15 * zoglesby has something
14:19:48 * pbokoc doesn't, sorry
14:19:49 <zoglesby> If anyone can help with the ARM getting started guide it would be very helpful
14:19:53 <zoglesby> #link https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/docs/ARM-getting-started-guide.git
14:20:46 <randomuser> zoglesby, jdulaney is into ARM stuff, he might help
14:20:54 <zoglesby> I wanted to get it done by the release of F20, but I will not be able to get it done on my own.
14:21:24 <randomuser> or pwhalen even, iirc he's tasked to arm QA
14:22:06 <randomuser> #info zoglesby needs help with the ARM-GSG
14:22:18 <zoglesby> randomuser: noted, I will reach out to them
14:23:15 * jjmcd doesn't have the "primary" platforms (Panda, TrimSlice, etc.) but does have Beagle and multiple Pis
14:23:37 <pwhalen> zoglesby, I do most of the documentation on the wiki, would be glad to help
14:24:21 * randomuser cheers pwhalen
14:24:31 <zoglesby> pwhalen: thanks!
14:26:33 <randomuser> okay, that probably covers guides for now
14:26:57 <randomuser> #topic BZ tickets
14:27:10 <randomuser> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998327
14:27:33 <randomuser> #info the script that redirects to a given locale is broken for romanian
14:27:56 <randomuser> ciupicri, sorry that we (we, meaning I) forgot about this :(
14:28:39 <ciupicri> it can happen to anyone
14:29:07 <ciupicri> there's also another tiny bug in the install guide
14:29:27 <pkovar> i suppose this issue will be fixed with the migration to a p3/p4-based platform
14:29:46 <pkovar> for our docs infrastructure
14:30:00 <randomuser> i was hoping that republishing the front page would do it
14:30:10 * randomuser shrugs
14:30:25 <pkovar> not sure
14:30:53 <pkovar> i guess one would need to manually remove the ro subdir from the db?
14:31:10 <pkovar> don't know much about the internals, just guessing
14:31:11 * randomuser shudders
14:31:36 <randomuser> sgordon is good at the internals, maybe he can be wrangled into assistance
14:31:50 * randomuser pings him
14:32:00 <pkovar> good idea
14:32:09 <randomuser> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:32:11 <sgordon> hai
14:32:17 <randomuser> hey there :)
14:32:19 <sgordon> on a call atm but randomuser called
14:32:22 <sgordon> ;)
14:32:48 <randomuser> sgordon, wizard that you are, do you think you can take a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998327 sometime?
14:35:52 <randomuser> well, we don't need to corner him in a meeting about it
14:36:01 <ciupicri> also, could also someone apply this tiny patch http://81.180.234.250:62532/0001-Fix-formatting-for-NFS-setup.patch ?
14:36:47 <randomuser> ciupicri, iirc, rpcbind should follow nfs in those actions
14:37:03 * randomuser vaguely recalls filing the bug that fixed that relationship
14:37:04 <ciupicri> right
14:37:14 <ciupicri> I fixed only the formatting :-D
14:37:16 <sgordon> randomuser, will look it when i get off these calls :)
14:37:19 <randomuser> ah, ok
14:37:31 <randomuser> thanks sgordon
14:37:55 <pbokoc> that looks like my guide
14:38:03 <randomuser> #info thanks ciupicri for the patch!
14:38:06 <pbokoc> ciupicri, I'll apply it in a sec
14:40:16 <randomuser> we can move on to open floor if there are no other concerning bugs
14:41:27 <randomuser> #topic open floor discussion
14:41:57 <randomuser> did everyone see we're planning a docs FAD?
14:43:06 <jjmcd> in JANUARY.  Horrible time to travel
14:43:31 <randomuser> well, iirc the only time a date came up was when I said "no sooner than january"
14:44:09 <randomuser> if there's sometime you'd prefer, jjmcd, do speak up
14:44:15 <jjmcd> Well, here on the tundra travel is iffy until May anyway, but Jan/Feb usually the riskiest
14:44:29 * jjmcd can do it remotely, tho
14:44:48 <jjmcd> Would like to see a push on the ARG and a FAD might make me clear out a couple days
14:45:11 <zoglesby> I also will have to be remote in Jan/Feb
14:45:19 <randomuser> i'm also in a post-glacial wasteland, but have to travel every day anyway so doing so for not-work is meh
14:45:46 <randomuser> jjmcd, zoglesby - you could do march, maybe?
14:46:02 <randomuser> zoglesby, congrats, btw, if I haven't said it :)
14:46:21 <jjmcd> Usually March is a little more sensible.  Sometimes it can be bad, but usually not like Jan/Feb
14:46:35 <zoglesby> randomuser: I would rather not hold it up if it is just me. January give us a god lead time for the next release
14:46:43 <zoglesby> s/god/good/
14:47:09 <jjmcd> Yeah, well, from my standpoint, the advantage to actually being there is minor and somewhat selfish (seeng folks)
14:47:41 <randomuser> zoglesby, sure, but there could be a dozen people thinking that
14:48:31 <zoglesby> randomuser: I also don't know how much leg work Sparks has done to get rooms, etc ready for Jan
14:48:53 <randomuser> me neither - Sparks ?
14:49:59 <jjmcd> The good news here is Jan isn't yet into SKYWARN/Run/Walk/Race/Exercise season
14:50:06 <zoglesby> plus a January meeting keeps the momentum going
14:50:17 <jjmcd> zoglesby, yepper
14:51:30 <randomuser> i like january too, for those reasons and because i'll be ready to get out of town for a few days
14:51:39 <randomuser> just wanted to make sure it was best for all
14:53:09 * randomuser gets ready to wrap it up
14:55:17 <randomuser> okay, thanks for coming, everyone
14:55:19 <randomuser> #endmeeting