14:09:34 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 14:09:34 Meeting started Mon Dec 2 14:09:34 2013 UTC. The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:09:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:09:34 #meetingname Fedora Docs 14:09:34 #topic Roll Call 14:09:34 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs' 14:09:40 * jhradilek <-- 14:09:42 sorry, started the meeting in the wrong meeting room 14:09:43 its the only part of the meeting I can nderstand 14:09:45 o/ 14:09:54 Capesteve: :D 14:10:05 * Capesteve is hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 14:10:13 * yruseva here 14:10:13 ^^^ what a pro 14:10:19 * lnovich is here 14:10:29 who, me? :D 14:10:39 that too! 14:10:41 * pkovar is still here 14:10:53 * jhradilek needs *another* cup of coffee. 14:11:10 well then, that's a roll well called 14:11:18 * yruseva just had her second... 14:11:24 #topic Release Notes / Changes 14:11:43 * jreznik is here as always when release comes closer :) 14:11:47 The Changes are fairly well represented in the release notes, and some other bits besides 14:12:09 #info release notes rpm should be out by wednesday, publishing to docs.fp.o then too 14:12:27 jreznik, then there will be a link for the announcement, too 14:13:25 I think we will let you know in case we would need rpm earlier 14:14:05 jreznik, okay, do that. If it's really urgent, email me, that works better during my daytime 14:14:54 the Change tracking bugs for identifying documentation updates could use some attention, though. I see pbokoc cloned some for the install guide and Capesteve has something for NM bonding/bridging but not much else 14:16:21 randomuser: I can take a look at those tomorrow evening 14:16:35 pbokoc, are you keeping an eye on the thinp feature? we're down to "maybe there will be experimental support in the installer" 14:17:53 randomuser, sort of. When I was helping with the release notes I asked the feature owner. He said it'll stay configurable in the installer, but without direct access to advanced features 14:18:23 so advanced users will be able to use things like overcommiting, but it won't work out of the box 14:19:07 i'm not sure that it's there yet 14:19:22 randomuser, it's selectable in the automatic parittioning menu 14:19:29 fair enough 14:19:55 i only looked as far as the tracking page and bug 14:20:09 anything else on this topic before we move on? 14:20:22 not from me :I 14:20:44 #info TODO: bugs are filed against docs-requests to identify updates docs based on F20 Changes 14:21:46 * jreznik is back, phone call... 14:22:18 #topic Guide Check-in 14:22:41 any news on guides? requests for help from the group? 14:23:16 help? 14:23:32 * randomuser helps 14:24:15 I would love some help 14:24:35 with anything in particular, lnovich ? 14:24:49 a 13th hour on the clock would be a good start 14:25:41 indeed 14:25:57 if not that, then my guide is more/less 3 weeks behind schedule 14:26:12 3 weeks, as in 120 man-hours? 14:27:45 ok 14:27:56 #topic Docs FAD 2014 14:28:15 #info there is an upcoming Docs FAD at some point 14:28:35 Sparks, are you here to talk about it? 14:29:04 Hi 14:29:09 Hey there 14:29:32 I think we need to come up with a date - and january isn't looking too open for me 14:29:35 #info Sparks sent a message to Robyn regarding funding but hasn't heard back yet. 14:30:03 #info It appears that we won't have any problem with the Raleigh site but nothing official has been requested yet. 14:30:29 awesome 14:30:30 I haven't looked at the 'whenisgood' yet. If you are interested in attending the FAD please do that! 14:30:55 #link http://whenisgood.net/docsfad2014 14:31:06 Unofficially, we shouldn't have any problems with the Brno site either, but I need to know the exact dates to verify it. 14:31:18 jhradilek: +1 14:31:34 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_FAD_2014 14:31:49 jhradilek: Have you received any non-RH interest on that side of the pond? 14:31:56 that site really needs a "wherever" button 14:32:06 or whenever 14:32:10 whatever 14:32:11 Sparks: Nope. :( 14:32:32 somebody should drag bcotton along too 14:32:33 pbokoc: Just highlight it all and click submit. 14:32:40 randomuser: +1 14:32:51 I'll put that on my list of things to nag people about. 14:32:56 oh, you can click the days too... nevermind then 14:33:02 #info agreed: bcotton will attend FAD whether he wills it or not 14:33:32 EOF 14:35:17 we also need to come up with some topics for the FAD, besides actually hacking on some docs 14:36:20 that's for the list, I suppose 14:36:38 #info post docs FAD topic ideas to the list so we can attend prepared 14:36:48 #topic outstanding BZ tickets 14:36:55 #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 14:38:14 me looks for a troublesome bug to hammer on 14:38:58 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627417 14:39:15 I think our landing page could be a little more helpful 14:39:29 * randomuser wonders what croberts is up to with this 14:40:51 *shrug* 14:41:02 #topic open floor discussion 14:41:37 randomuser: So our documentation needs documentation? 14:42:02 and documentation for wrinting the documentation about documentation, yes 14:42:12 *sigh* 14:42:30 Sparks, it seems like a brief description of the more prevalent guides would be a good idea 14:42:39 or use cases 14:43:14 * jhradilek nods. 14:43:16 +1 14:43:32 * jhradilek would like to work on the Documentation Guide over the Christmas. 14:44:29 I would like to present a new version to you in January and hopefully, we should have a final version ready before our FAD. 14:44:39 if I finish my guide by then I can help you jhradilek 14:44:46 final version! that's exciting 14:46:50 quiet in here... anything else? 14:47:15 I wanted to ask Sparks about those video tutorials he's planning. :) 14:48:00 can someone give me the details of the FAD? 14:48:15 lnovich: You should visit our Brno office. :) 14:48:23 thats the plan 14:48:31 when and where? 14:48:46 lnovich, did you see the whenisgood link above? 14:48:54 it's planned for then 14:49:14 I'll update the wiki page with some more details about the Brno office later this week. Right now, the date is still not certain, but the location is pretty obvious. :) 14:52:20 Thanks for coming, everyone, see you around 14:52:24 #endmeeting