15:06:12 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig
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15:06:16 <rdieter> #meetingname kde-sig
15:06:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig'
15:06:21 <rdieter> #topic roll call
15:06:27 * jgrulich is present
15:06:44 <rdieter> hi all, who's around for a friendly kde-sig meeting?
15:07:13 <rdieter> than, kde*foo : ping
15:07:31 <than> present
15:07:49 * ltinkl is present
15:08:31 <rdieter> #chair jgrulich than ltinkl
15:08:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: jgrulich ltinkl rdieter than
15:08:32 <williamjmorenor> there is a meeting now?
15:08:45 <rdieter> williamjmorenor: yes
15:08:55 <williamjmorenor> :O
15:09:02 <rdieter> #info rdieter jgrulich than ltinkl present
15:09:13 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor
15:09:15 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
15:09:27 <rdieter> williamjmorenor: welcome
15:09:33 <rdieter> #info williamjmorenor present
15:09:36 <williamjmorenor> thanks
15:09:38 <williamjmorenor> :)
15:09:40 <rdieter> #topic agenda
15:09:46 <rdieter> what to discuss today?
15:10:20 <rdieter> off the top of my head:  f20 status (blockers, yada yada), kde-4.11.97 status, kde-4.11.4 plans
15:10:51 * jreznik_ is available
15:10:57 <rdieter> #info jreznik_ present
15:11:00 <rdieter> #chair jreznik_
15:11:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: jgrulich jreznik_ ltinkl rdieter than
15:11:35 <rdieter> well, let's jump right in then...
15:11:42 <rdieter> #topic f20 status (blockers, etc...)
15:12:03 <jreznik_> TC4 is available for download
15:12:15 <rdieter> first of all, kudos to marco martin (and improv) in helping to resolve the plasma/arm blocker bug
15:12:25 <jreznik_> it should be possible to test sddm->kdm switch there
15:12:41 <jgrulich> yeah, but it's not still a proper fix
15:12:43 <jreznik_> rdieter: yep! great help
15:12:54 <rdieter> #link https://plus.google.com/+MarcoMartin/posts/HmJgn5gTZfB
15:13:02 <rdieter> jgrulich: true
15:13:15 <rdieter> jreznik_: yay, thanks
15:13:20 <jreznik_> jgrulich: it is not but not sure upstream needs a real one as there's Plasma 2...
15:13:55 <jgrulich> jreznik_: that's true, fix is not necessary for Plasma 2
15:16:02 * rdieter checks https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F20Blocker-kde  , https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F20Target-kde
15:17:08 <rdieter> looking pretty good
15:17:15 <rdieter> theres just...
15:17:29 <rdieter> .bug 1004621
15:17:34 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 1004621 plasma-nm doesn't attempt to connect to any listed networks on Fedora KDE live - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1004621
15:17:39 <rdieter> but I think we've got that handled with swtiching back to kdm
15:18:00 <jgrulich> rdieter: yes, this should work
15:18:39 <rdieter> any other comments on f20 status ?
15:18:59 <jreznik_> just please try TC4 if it's really good
15:19:21 <jreznik_> and as always - help with desktop validation is appreciated :)
15:19:30 <rdieter> will do
15:20:10 <rdieter> #info please help test TC4, desktop validation
15:20:47 <rdieter> sounds like we can move on...
15:21:00 <jreznik_> thanks
15:21:03 <rdieter> #topic kde-4.11.97 status
15:21:27 <rdieter> just brief update, got 4.11.97 imported to rawhide, initial f20 kde-unstable builds are mirror'ing now
15:22:19 <rdieter> I haven't actually tried any of these yet, been focussing on f20 testing
15:23:08 <rdieter> that's all I have to report
15:25:20 <rdieter> moving on...
15:25:24 <rdieter> #topic kde-4.11.4 plans
15:25:54 <rdieter> we'd touched on the topic in #fedora-kde earlier, but thought it worth mentioning again here for transparency...
15:26:28 <rdieter> was purposely waiting to do anything with 4.11.4 until f20 GA (or at least until kde blockers resolved)
15:27:19 <rdieter> we *could* start work on importing into f19 branch, if anyone has spare cycles
15:27:25 <rdieter> (ha)
15:27:55 <than> yes, it does make sense to wait until f20 ga
15:29:26 <jreznik_> yep
15:29:31 <rdieter> #info plan is to wait for f20 GA before doing any kde-4.11.4 builds
15:29:59 <rdieter> or at least when we know f20 final is a go
15:30:46 <rdieter> #topic open discussion
15:31:00 <rdieter> thats it for topics I could think of... anything else to discuss?
15:33:03 * rdieter hears crickets, guesses not
15:33:35 <rdieter> ok, let's wrap the meeting, thanks everyone.
15:33:37 <rdieter> #endmeeting