#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting

Meeting summary

1. Roll call (adamw, 16:00:09)
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:05:13)
   1. "adamw to push the sanity check proposal out, group seems to approve" - did that, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-December/119558.html (adamw, 16:06:00)
   2. "adamw to check F19 and F18 commonbugs for issues that should be copied to F20" - did that too, found a few, cleaned up the f19 page a bit while I was in there (adamw, 16:06:31)
   
   
3. FedUp post-mortem (adamw, 16:07:32)
   1. there was a SNAFU with fedup on release day: fedup 0.8 was still in updates-testing for F18 and F19 on the day of release, and it turned out upgrades to F20 with fedup 0.7 and the release upgrade.img do not work (adamw, 16:08:34)
   2. upgrades with 0.8 work fine, this was communicated via the commonbugs and various other means: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#fedup-07-fail (adamw, 16:09:14)
   3. adamw changed the fedup test cases to recommend testing latest stable fedup (instead of updates-testing) against the current TC/RC tree (not development/ tree) (adamw, 16:18:08)
   4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1045168#c25 (adamw, 16:25:20)
   5. noted by multiple parties that short RC lifetime is an invitation to issues like the thinp and fedup bugs (adamw, 16:32:22)
   6. ACTION: adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email (adamw, 16:36:17)
   
   
4. Storage validation (adamw, 16:36:27)
   1. storage validation planning continues on list, there seems to be broad agreement to try and cover guided partitioning extensively and custom with a small(ish) 'must work' matrix and a larger 'bonus credit' matrix (adamw, 16:51:07)
   2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM (danofsatx, 17:02:03)
   3. cmurf working on a mail to anaconda list proposing a restriction on the breadth of custom partitioning coverage (adamw, 17:03:51)
   
   
5. Open floor (adamw, 17:05:11)
   1. roshi and danofsatx working on a draft for an improved onboarding process at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Join (adamw, 17:07:09)
   2. cmurf suggests working with docs folks to highlight 'recommended' custom layouts (adamw, 17:11:55)

Action items

1. adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email

Action items, by person

1. adamw
   1. adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email

People present (lines said)

1. adamw (147)
2. cmurf (92)
3. danofsatx (36)
4. roshi (24)
5. tflink (9)
6. satellit_e (6)
7. zodbot (3)
8. nirik (2)
9. satellit (2)
10. brunowolff (1)
11. akshayvyas (1)