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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-12-23/fedora-qa.2013-12-23-16.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call  (adamw, 16:00:09)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 16:05:13)
  * "adamw to push the sanity check proposal out, group seems to
    approve" - did that,
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-December/119558.html
    (adamw, 16:06:00)
  * "adamw to check F19 and F18 commonbugs for issues that should be
    copied to F20" - did that too, found a few, cleaned up the f19 page
    a bit while I was in there  (adamw, 16:06:31)

* FedUp post-mortem  (adamw, 16:07:32)
  * there was a SNAFU with fedup on release day: fedup 0.8 was still in
    updates-testing for F18 and F19 on the day of release, and it turned
    out upgrades to F20 with fedup 0.7 and the release upgrade.img do
    not work  (adamw, 16:08:34)
  * upgrades with 0.8 work fine, this was communicated via the
    commonbugs and various other means:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#fedup-07-fail
    (adamw, 16:09:14)
  * adamw changed the fedup test cases to recommend testing latest
    stable fedup (instead of updates-testing) against the current TC/RC
    tree (not development/ tree)  (adamw, 16:18:08)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1045168#c25
    (adamw, 16:25:20)
  * noted by multiple parties that short RC lifetime is an invitation to
    issues like the thinp and fedup bugs  (adamw, 16:32:22)
  * ACTION: adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email  (adamw,
    16:36:17)

* Storage validation  (adamw, 16:36:27)
  * storage validation planning continues on list, there seems to be
    broad agreement to try and cover guided partitioning extensively and
    custom with a small(ish) 'must work' matrix and a larger 'bonus
    credit' matrix  (adamw, 16:51:07)
  * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM
    (danofsatx, 17:02:03)
  * cmurf working on a mail to anaconda list proposing a restriction on
    the breadth of custom partitioning coverage  (adamw, 17:03:51)

* Open floor  (adamw, 17:05:11)
  * roshi and danofsatx working on a draft for an improved onboarding
    process at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Roshi/QA/Join
    (adamw, 17:07:09)
  * cmurf suggests working with docs folks to highlight 'recommended'
    custom layouts  (adamw, 17:11:55)

Meeting ended at 17:20:19 UTC.




Action Items
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* adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email




Action Items, by person
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* adamw
  * adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (147)
* cmurf (92)
* danofsatx (36)
* roshi (24)
* tflink (9)
* satellit_e (6)
* zodbot (3)
* nirik (2)
* satellit (2)
* brunowolff (1)
* akshayvyas (1)




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