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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:59 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-13/fedora-qa.2014-01-13-16.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call  (adamw, 16:01:09)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 16:09:13)
  * "adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing" -
    clearly, that happened:
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-January/120006.html
    (adamw, 16:09:36)

* EOL process handling  (adamw, 16:12:48)
  * there has been a bit of a debate about the EOL (end-of-life)
    process, which is documented on the Wiki in a QA-ish space
    (Bugzappers), but which in practice has been handled by the program
    manager  (adamw, 16:13:36)
  * thread started at
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-December/193094.html
    (adamw, 16:15:58)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP does list it
    under Bugzappers, so we need to straighten that out whichever way it
    goes.  (adamw, 16:25:54)
  * LINK: http://johnpoelstra.com/five-months-of-bug-triage/ is
    interesting  (adamw, 16:33:51)
  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP still shows the bug
    closure to be the responsibility of 'Bugzappers'  (adamw, 16:36:55)
  * http://johnpoelstra.com/five-months-of-bug-triage/ implies the
    history of the EOL process - it was developed as part of the
    Bugzappers effort and originally done by poelcat with his Bugzappers
    hat on, not his Program Manager hat  (adamw, 16:37:34)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198   (jreznik,
    16:39:17)
  * EOL scripts are available at
    https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-project-schedule.git/tree/scripts/closebugs
    (adamw, 16:40:06)
  * viking-ice's suggestions that QA should own the process and perhaps
    drop the closing of bugs on EOL releases is noted but not supported
    by a consensus  (adamw, 16:50:38)
  * ACTION: adamw to summarize the discussion for a fesco ticket note on
    https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198  (adamw, 16:58:41)

* 10 year anniversary t-shirt  (adamw, 16:59:09)

* open floor  (adamw, 17:04:18)
  * it's fine to propose blockers for f21 already  (adamw, 17:07:55)

Meeting ended at 17:09:02 UTC.




Action Items
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* adamw to summarize the discussion for a fesco ticket note on
  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198




Action Items, by person
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* adamw
  * adamw to summarize the discussion for a fesco ticket note on
    https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (91)
* cmurf (51)
* jreznik (41)
* Viking-Ice (38)
* roshi (18)
* kparal (14)
* tflink (7)
* danofsatx (6)
* zodbot (4)
* jsmith (4)
* yachironi (2)
* mkrizek (1)
* pwhalen (1)
* pschindl (1)




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