14:00:27 <randomuser> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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14:00:27 <randomuser> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:00:27 <randomuser> #topic Roll Call
14:00:27 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:00:40 * jhradilek <--
14:00:50 * jjmcd 
14:00:51 * lnovich1 is here
14:01:00 <mayorga> .hellomynameis mayorga
14:01:01 <zodbot> mayorga: mayorga 'Eduardo Mayorga Téllez' <e@mayorgalinux.com>
14:01:42 <randomuser> jjmcd, i've been meaning to tell you that I have that wacom thing running on F19 with the test kernel from the bug
14:01:57 * Capesteve waves
14:01:59 <jjmcd> randomuser, I noticed you indicated that in the bug
14:02:11 <jjmcd> I'm preparing for a multiple-box conversion to 20
14:02:20 * yruseva here
14:02:34 <randomuser> all smooth upgrades here, so far
14:02:52 <jjmcd> I'm nervous, never had fedup work for me
14:03:07 <randomuser> i'm nervous about the fileserver, still on 18
14:03:15 <lnovich1> it worked for me with no issues
14:03:29 * pbokoc is here
14:03:34 <jjmcd> So installing on cloned drive to avoid having yet another start from scratch
14:04:06 <jjmcd> Yeah, my fileserver will be a white-knuckle thing too
14:04:11 <jjmcd> also on 18
14:04:54 <randomuser> the last time I rebuilt it, I had moved drives around to different SAS channels and killed it's VG
14:04:56 <randomuser> not fun
14:05:51 <randomuser> okay, action items then
14:06:03 <randomuser> #topic Follow up on action items
14:06:47 * randomuser scrolls
14:07:17 <randomuser> jhradilek, you were updating the FAD page with brno info
14:07:43 <randomuser> i was going to send an email on FAD scheduling... thought I had but maybe not?
14:07:58 <randomuser> no, i did
14:08:14 <randomuser> and Sparks was going to work on publishing documentation.
14:08:17 <randomuser> how did we do?
14:08:39 <Capesteve> randomuser: jhradilek has gone for coffee, he will be back shortly
14:09:06 <jjmcd> Price of plane tickets go up quickly, so we should put a stake in the ground
14:09:08 <randomuser> ok
14:09:27 <randomuser> jjmcd, 21-23MAR
14:09:40 <jjmcd> Yeah, but nb said don't get tickets yet
14:09:53 * randomuser notes jhradilek did not update FAD wiki page
14:10:12 <randomuser> jjmcd, i'm not afraid of not getting reimbursed, though :P
14:10:31 <randomuser> #topic Docs FAD
14:11:17 <randomuser> #info Docs FAD set for 21MAR-23MAR in Raleigh, Brno, maybe BNE
14:11:47 <randomuser> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_FAD_2014
14:12:08 <randomuser> #info there will probably be remote participation opportunities, at least via IRC
14:12:39 <randomuser> I think nb is probably working this morning
14:13:05 * Sparks is here
14:13:33 <mayorga> ramdomuser: I was about to ask it
14:13:33 <lnovich1> I can prepare something on Publican if you want
14:13:47 <randomuser> mayorga, ask away!
14:14:05 <mayorga> streaming would be great too! will it be possible?
14:14:25 <lnovich1> google hangout?
14:14:26 <mayorga> or recording at least...
14:14:56 <mayorga> lnovick1: yeah, it's a good option
14:14:58 <Sparks> I think we're going to be using BlueJeans to communicate between the sites.  Not sure how that works outside of the corp environment.
14:15:08 <randomuser> good morning, Sparks
14:15:25 <lnovich1> hey sparks!
14:15:35 <Sparks> GM
14:16:39 * mayorga will be interested on remote participation, so he thinks streaming would be useful
14:16:49 <randomuser> Sparks, you wrangled the budget - any reason we should *not* purchase our plane tickets and such before the price escalates?
14:16:53 <mayorga> if worth anyway
14:17:07 <randomuser> mayorga, agreed
14:17:28 <lnovich1> i think the australian group may be interested as well...if they can get recordings
14:18:28 <Sparks> randomuser: I need to check with suehle but if we have a date solidified then we should start spending, IMO.
14:18:57 <suehle> What's the question?
14:19:15 <lnovich1> how does the reinbursement work?
14:19:17 <randomuser> ack
14:19:56 <Sparks> suehle: Can we start spending money?
14:20:27 * Sparks notes suehle probably hasn't had the requisite quantity of coffee to start discussing this topic.
14:20:35 <suehle> lol
14:20:59 <suehle> If the FAD was approved (which it obvs was), then there's no reason not to. If we're not talking about the FAD, then I haven't had enough coffee.
14:21:15 <Sparks> suehle: We're talking FAD.
14:22:09 * randomuser eyes the one-stop itinerary
14:22:32 <randomuser> any other FAD topics we should go over today (thanks suehle )
14:22:33 <Sparks> suehle: If you are going to be around later today I'd like to talk about the hotel.
14:22:45 <suehle> Sparks, ok
14:24:37 <randomuser> okay, moving on
14:24:42 <randomuser> #topic Docs Badges
14:24:50 <randomuser> missed this one on the schedule, but....
14:25:08 <randomuser> heh, and lnovich was the most interested in this, I think
14:25:19 <randomuser> #info Docs commits badges are turned on!
14:25:26 <randomuser> #link https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/wordstorm-wordsmith-v
14:26:29 * mayorga notes that no many people have earned them
14:26:32 <randomuser> The commit totals do *not* reflect everything in git - they reflect everything in git since fedmsg was turned on for our fedorahosted resources
14:26:43 <pbokoc> well damn, I better start committing single character changes
14:26:48 <Sparks> heh
14:27:01 * jjmcd habitually commits like a madman
14:27:04 <randomuser> #info badges will activate after your next push
14:27:20 <Sparks> randomuser: I see there was a little movement on my publisher badge.  Perhaps tie it to Koji?
14:27:37 <randomuser> Sparks, I missed the movement, but I was thinking about it
14:27:57 <randomuser> Sparks, link, for the minutes?
14:28:05 <randomuser> (and lazy me)
14:28:10 <mayorga> Sparks: +1
14:28:46 <Sparks> Ummm
14:29:08 <Sparks> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/122
14:29:56 <randomuser> do we want to ask for a badge for web.git commits, or should we just start from scratch with el6-docs builds?
14:30:12 <randomuser> the latter seems reasonable
14:31:13 <randomuser> meh, comment in the ticket, folks
14:31:18 <randomuser> #topic Guide Status
14:32:00 <randomuser> does anyone know if jeast has existing content she plans to drop into the storage guide, or if she plans to write new content?
14:32:25 <randomuser> I asked in the status check bug, but no response this week
14:32:36 <lnovich> i can ask her - i am trying to wrangle the contributors to get a new version out
14:32:54 <randomuser> lnovich, thanks
14:33:21 <randomuser> while you're here, how goes the Fedora Virt-* guide?
14:33:53 * lnovich hides under the table
14:34:09 <randomuser> heh
14:34:45 <randomuser> Capesteve, a Networking Guide in the works, i hear?
14:34:47 <lnovich> i know i have no excuses - banish me if you want
14:35:20 <Capesteve> randomuser: I have had a few set backs, lots of feedback, corrections to be made
14:35:25 <lnovich> im hoping to get something out for FAD
14:35:32 <Capesteve> randomuser: But it will be better for it
14:35:38 <randomuser> excellent
14:36:10 <randomuser> if you commit some of that work, you'll get baaadddgess
14:36:38 <Capesteve> randomuser: I'll try pushing one chapter at a time next week
14:36:44 <randomuser> cool
14:37:10 <randomuser> any other guide issues we should cover?
14:38:42 <randomuser> okey
14:38:48 <randomuser> #topic New Writers
14:39:47 <randomuser> jjmcd, did you see Simon Clark's ARG patches on the list?
14:39:53 <jjmcd> no
14:40:00 <jjmcd> I noticed the patch in git, tho
14:40:04 <jjmcd> didn't look at it
14:40:13 <jjmcd> Just pulled to test publican 3
14:40:25 <Sparks> jjmcd: Are you going to handle the patch?
14:40:31 <jjmcd> I can if you would like
14:40:40 <jjmcd> I have it up right now in a VM
14:40:57 <Sparks> jjmcd: I'm working on backend work now so I probably won't have time to look at it any time soon.  :(
14:41:08 <Sparks> jjmcd: I do want to add some ARG stuff soon, though.
14:41:09 <jjmcd> I'll take a look
14:41:15 <Sparks> jjmcd: *and* publish it
14:41:24 <randomuser> jjmcd, this was on the 22nd, no patch in git
14:41:35 <Sparks> randomuser: no bug?
14:41:44 <randomuser> no bug, patches to list
14:42:30 <jjmcd> OK, the first one I had to do to make ARG build
14:43:04 <Sparks> randomuser: patches to the list ~= lost patches
14:43:09 <jjmcd> See no issues with either - when did we remove versions in doc?  19 or 20?
14:43:17 <jjmcd> Sparks, +1
14:43:28 <Sparks> jjmcd: Ummm... remove?
14:43:45 <randomuser> Sparks, %docdir
14:43:54 <randomuser> 20, jjmcd
14:44:15 <jjmcd> OK, so the second patch needs to go in the 20 ARG, not 19
14:44:17 <randomuser> or %_docdir ?
14:45:37 <jjmcd> OK, I guess I first need to create a F20 branch
14:45:47 <randomuser> i don't think we have anything from any other newer writers this week, unless they are here to speak up
14:47:18 <randomuser> #topic Outstanding Bugs
14:47:26 <randomuser> #link #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:47:30 <randomuser> #undo
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14:47:35 <randomuser> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:47:58 <randomuser> please take a moment to look over the bugs, and yell if you find them concerning
14:50:23 <randomuser> no complaints? ok
14:50:35 <randomuser> #topic open floor discussion
14:51:20 <mayorga> !
14:51:30 <pbokoc> randomuser, can you please check https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/webtrans/translate?project=fedora-installation-guide for me again?
14:51:35 <pbokoc> is it still read only for you?
14:51:50 * randomuser checks
14:52:01 <randomuser> we're not so formal, mayorga
14:52:06 <mayorga> :)
14:52:35 <mayorga> I'd like to see Fedora Classroom again...
14:52:59 <mayorga> so I thought in starting a course on Docs
14:53:16 <mayorga> Ankur set up a Moodle instance in OpenShift
14:53:30 <lnovich> great idea!
14:53:44 <mayorga> so, if any of you would to help...
14:54:28 <mayorga> Ankur started one on RPM packaging
14:54:30 <lnovich> i can help
14:54:36 <randomuser> i think Sparks or jsmith or stickster or somebody has done publican/docs presentations and might have slides
14:54:53 <pbokoc> randomuser, still checking? :)
14:54:55 <mayorga> yeah, I already have seen them
14:55:02 <mayorga> they are nice!
14:55:14 <randomuser> pbokoc, that link didn't render but working backwards, it appears to be writable
14:55:15 <lnovich> is there an issue/question that you have?
14:55:26 * mayorga retrieving the moodle instance link
14:55:48 <lnovich> in openshift?
14:56:01 <pbokoc> randomuser, allright, thanks
14:56:23 <mayorga> here you go: https://moodle-ankursinha.rhcloud.com/
14:56:52 <mayorga> you may register, and contact Ankur Sinha for correct permissions
14:57:07 <lnovich> does this help ? https://github.com/burningTyger/openshift_moodle
14:57:35 <mayorga> Moodle is already running, lnovich
14:58:04 <jhradilek> randomuser: I have slides too if anybody is interested.
14:58:33 <mayorga> jhradilek: great! Where can I find them?
14:58:40 <jhradilek> mayorga: http://www.blackened.cz/tmp/devconf2013.pdf <--
14:59:24 <jhradilek> I am not sure if this is what you are looking for though, I tend to give rather technical presentations.
15:00:08 <randomuser> #link http://www.blackened.cz/tmp/devconf2013.pdf
15:00:17 <mayorga> jhradilek: looks pretty useful for my proposes
15:00:22 <randomuser> #info jhradilek's publican/docbook presentation
15:00:54 <randomuser> and with that, out hour is up
15:01:01 <jhradilek> mayorga: I made them in Inkscape, the sources are on GitHub if you want them.
15:01:21 <randomuser> let's adjourn to #fedora-docs, or wherever you all go when you're not here
15:01:37 <randomuser> #endmeeting