04:04:20 <tuanta> #startmeeting 04:04:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Feb 15 04:04:20 2014 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:04:20 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:04:32 <tuanta> #meetingname apac 04:04:32 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:04:40 <tuanta> #topic Roll Call 04:04:45 <tuanta> .fas tuanta 04:04:46 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com> 04:04:53 * adimania is here 04:04:58 <adimania> .fas adimanaia 04:04:59 <zodbot> adimania: 'adimanaia' Not Found! 04:05:02 <harish> .fas harishpillay 04:05:03 <zodbot> harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' <harish.pillay@gmail.com> 04:05:06 <bckurera> .fas bckurera 04:05:08 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com> 04:05:16 <adimania> .fas adimanaia 04:05:17 <zodbot> adimania: 'adimanaia' Not Found! 04:05:20 <tuanta> hi harish 04:05:23 <tuanta> welcome back :) 04:05:41 <adimania> .fas adimania 04:05:42 <zodbot> adimania: adimania 'Aditya Patawari' <adimania@gmail.com> 04:05:49 <adimania> sorry for typos :( 04:06:02 <tuanta> adimania: sorry, where are you from? 04:06:14 <bckurera> India 04:06:15 <adimania> India. 04:06:22 <tuanta> cool :) 04:06:33 <MavJS> .fas mavjs 04:06:33 <zodbot> MavJS: mavjs 'Ye Myat Kaung' <mavjs01@gmail.com> 04:06:44 <tuanta> anyone out here for APAC meeting? 04:06:47 <MavJS> adimania: haven't seen you since fudcon ;) 04:06:56 <tuanta> please join with us 04:07:02 <harish> tuanta, hi 04:07:15 <adimania> I am mostly active on fedora-admin working on ansible and puppet 04:07:16 <harish> hi MavJS! 04:07:27 <MavJS> harish: hi :) 04:07:33 <MavJS> adimania: ah, nice :) 04:07:34 <harish> hi bckurera adimania 04:07:45 <harish> been a long while. 04:07:50 <adimania> hi harish :) 04:07:52 <tuanta> ok, we should start now 04:07:58 <harish> yep. 04:08:00 <tuanta> #topic Announcements 04:08:18 * bckurera good to have you harish 04:08:23 <tuanta> I have got a few ones 04:08:41 <harish> :-) 04:09:16 <tuanta> 1. Elections have been closed and Robyn announced elected people 04:09:26 <KageSenshi> o/ 04:09:30 <harish> congratulations tuanta! 04:09:30 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar 04:09:31 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com> 04:09:33 <tuanta> good to see we have APAC person in FAmSCo 04:09:48 <tuanta> thanks, harish 04:10:41 <tuanta> 2. FAmSCo approved China bid for FUDCon APAC 2014. Just waiting for Fedora Budget owner to discuss 04:10:55 <tuanta> (we will have a topic to discuss this later) 04:11:46 <tuanta> 3. APAC Budget for FY2015 is discussing in Budget Owners 04:11:51 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget:2015 04:12:23 <tuanta> sadly, it is missing a lot of APAC countries since I have not got response from those countries 04:12:45 <tuanta> any more questions or announcements? 04:12:46 <KageSenshi> KL been dead .. 04:12:47 <KageSenshi> xD 04:12:57 <tuanta> ah, KageSenshi 04:12:59 <tuanta> one more :) 04:13:38 <tuanta> 4. KageSenshi has been approved to hold community card for APAC (substitute for harish as he is so busy) 04:13:58 <tuanta> CC is on the way and we will have KageSenshi support soon :) 04:14:00 <harish> congrats KageSenshi 04:14:20 <KageSenshi> thanks .. will do my best on the reimbursement process 04:14:21 <tuanta> it should be one of the greatest news I got recently! 04:14:48 <tuanta> no more from me. any other announcements from each of you? 04:15:02 <harish> KageSenshi, as noted in earlier email to you, do work with Joerg Simon. he has a good workflow. 04:15:11 <KageSenshi> harish, noted 04:15:15 <tuanta> +1 harish 04:15:20 * MavJS has no announcements :D 04:15:39 <tuanta> move on now? 04:15:42 <harish> I am wondering if I should make F20 liveCDs? 04:15:57 <harish> since F21 won't be out for a longer period. 04:16:03 <harish> than 6 months from F20. 04:16:15 <harish> and make it available to ambassadors. 04:16:26 <harish> coming out of my budget not Fedora. 04:16:29 <bckurera> and many thanks for the support given for APAC by harish over the past period, you did a great job, for sure KageSenshi will take it forward :) 04:16:52 <tuanta> AFAIK, F21 will be released around August 04:17:11 <harish> yes, so that is a good 6mths away 04:17:25 <harish> and I am wondering if actual CDs would be good for events. 04:18:10 <KageSenshi> i've been away from running events for quite a while now .. not sure myself .. 04:18:25 * harish brb 04:18:35 <KageSenshi> though usually its good to have something tangible to pass around .. 04:18:40 <tuanta> #topic Media and Swag 04:18:59 <adimania> these days a lot of laptop and devices are shying away from cd/dvd players. 04:19:08 <KageSenshi> *nods* 04:19:12 <tuanta> .chair KageSenshi harish MavJS adimania bckurera 04:19:12 <zodbot> KageSenshi harish MavJS adimania bckurera is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them. 04:19:32 <KageSenshi> in a chair? ... 04:19:35 <adimania> :D 04:19:51 <MavJS> XD 04:19:55 <tuanta> :) 04:21:14 <adimania> for installation, live thumb drives (may be branded) are cool. For swag, laptop stickers :) 04:21:16 <tuanta> harish: we should produce media locally here because of complicated shipping and tax 04:21:31 <adimania> but themb drives shoot the cost :( 04:21:46 <adimania> s/themb/thumb 04:21:50 <tuanta> .chair nangthang 04:21:51 <zodbot> nangthang is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them. 04:22:11 <nangthang> .fas nangthang 04:22:12 <zodbot> nangthang: nangthang 'Thang Nguyen Nang' <thangnguyennang1988@gmail.com> 04:22:31 * harish back 04:22:40 <KageSenshi> yeah .. thumbdrives are costly .. 04:23:00 <harish> indeed the tax and shipping is an issue. but as a last resort, i can hold some "stock" as it were. 04:23:24 <harish> thumbdrives are out of the budget range, unfortunately. 04:23:40 <tuanta> I think we need to initial a new discussion to discuss the most effective way to distribute media and swag in APAC 04:23:57 <tuanta> I tried to init it in the past, but we did not follow 04:24:23 <tuanta> +1 harish. thumbdrives should be for special cases 04:24:28 <harish> may want to write something up first and then discuss. much info already online. 04:24:29 <bckurera> harish I think your idea is good 04:24:52 <bckurera> we can use fudcon ad other events such as fossasai to distribe them 04:27:54 <tuanta> who would voluntarily write an initial proposal of the central Fedora media and swag storage in APAC? 04:28:07 <KageSenshi> generic swags can always be buttons, keychains, etc .. 04:28:15 <tuanta> we need one to write it up first, then people can discuss on 04:28:48 <tuanta> of course, please make an appointment for brain storming it before writing if you want 04:28:56 <tuanta> who can? 04:29:02 <adimania> I suppose I can create a page on wiki and send it across the mailing list 04:29:18 <tuanta> ok, thanks adimania 04:29:41 <tuanta> #action adimania to write an initial proposal of the central Fedora media and swag storage in APAC 04:29:50 <tuanta> so we can back to this topic later 04:29:55 <adimania> tuanta, I'll ping you for pointers later though. 04:30:02 <tuanta> #topic Tickets 04:30:09 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9 04:30:19 <tuanta> ok, adimania. 04:30:29 <tuanta> we have got 5 tickets today 04:30:54 <tuanta> but just only one ticket owner available today: adimania 04:31:19 <adimania> yes 04:31:24 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #118 - Travel subsidy for Aditya/adimania to Northeast Linux Fest 04:31:35 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/118 04:32:20 <tuanta> adimania: you request a travel subsidy, right? 04:32:25 <adimania> right. 04:32:32 <tuanta> have yu got the exact budget estimation? 04:32:59 <adimania> I checked a few days ago and tickets were costing around 900 USD. 04:33:09 <adimania> I can manage rest out of my pockets 04:33:18 <tuanta> note that for budget over $1,000, we need approval from FAmSCo 04:33:22 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement 04:33:39 <tuanta> btw, have you read that Reimbursement wiki page carefully? 04:33:44 <adimania> I understand. 04:34:01 <adimania> yes. 04:34:07 <tuanta> good 04:34:44 <tuanta> your request is not in schedule since the beginning of FY2014: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget 04:35:18 <adimania> yes. I had proposed the talk and it got approved only last week. 04:35:36 <tuanta> I know we should decide asap. However, when is the deadline for approving your ticket? 04:35:48 <tuanta> when is the event starting? 04:36:14 <adimania> Event is on 5 April. 04:36:21 <tuanta> ah, I see 04:36:34 <adimania> I'll need sometime to get my Visa done though. 04:36:54 <tuanta> I need to check out if your have money left in FY2014 budget, since your request is out of schedule 04:36:58 <adimania> I think it would be great if we can take a call in around 10 days. 04:37:46 <adimania> I understand. Please check out and let me know. 04:38:34 <tuanta> I will do that after this meeting ,take some notes in the ticket and we will make the final decision in the next meeting 04:38:38 <tuanta> are you ok? 04:39:00 <adimania> Next meeting will be in 2 weeks. right? 04:39:23 <tuanta> yes 04:39:35 <tuanta> if we need it sooner, we can do that on Trac 04:39:50 <tuanta> by sending a call for vote to the mailing list 04:40:06 <tuanta> I just think we should have enough information before making decision 04:40:16 <adimania> sooner would be really helpful since the prices increase by each day. 04:40:42 <tuanta> yes, I know 04:41:05 <tuanta> so we can do that on Trac or having another meeting next week 04:41:44 <adimania> okay. Both would work fine for me. Thanks. 04:41:52 <tuanta> cool. 04:42:50 <tuanta> #action tuanta to check FY2014 budget to figure out if there is enough money to fund adimania as ticket #118 04:43:44 <tuanta> #idea we can vote for #118 on Trac 04:43:58 <tuanta> #topic FUDCon APAC 2014 04:44:16 <tuanta> there is no one from China organizing team today 04:44:22 * alick is here 04:44:36 <tuanta> ah, thanks :) 04:45:06 <tuanta> alick, have you got any updates on? 04:45:21 <tuanta> any responses from Robyn or Ruth? 04:45:31 <alick> not really, no reply from Robyn :( 04:45:47 <tuanta> they seem disappear :( 04:46:22 <tuanta> I dropped then some message on FAmSCo mailing list (also copied them directly) 04:46:27 <tuanta> but no responses too :( 04:46:34 <alick> I haven't opened a ticket on fudcon-planning since I thought mail is enough ATM, 04:46:52 <tuanta> harish: have you got any other way to contact to Robyn and Ruth (Fedora Budget Owner) 04:46:57 <alick> and I am not sure what that ticket should be about (overall budget?) 04:47:27 <harish> tuanta, i will ping them both. they are generally very responsive. surprised by the slowness really. 04:47:42 <KageSenshi> oh .... so next fudcon shall be at china? 04:47:52 <tuanta> we need them to discuss and approve the budget for organizing FUDCon APAC in China 04:48:02 <MavJS> KageSenshi: heh, you didn't know? lol 04:48:03 <adimania> Robyn (rbergeron is the handle, right?) was in fedora-admin the other day mentioning that she had to go to ER. 04:48:03 <MavJS> XD 04:48:06 <zsun> .fas zsun 04:48:07 <zodbot> zsun: zsun 'Zamir SUN' <sztsian@gmail.com> 04:48:08 <tuanta> yes, KageSenshi, FAmSCo approved 04:48:11 <zsun> sorry to be late 04:48:15 <adimania> may be some medical issues. 04:48:24 <KageSenshi> MavJS, i'm out of touch of bunch of stuff .... struggling to catch up 04:48:28 <KageSenshi> *with 04:48:29 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ;) 04:48:43 <alick> KageSenshi: we are bidding for it. and we are the only bidder. 04:48:52 <KageSenshi> ah noted 04:48:56 <KageSenshi> so its not confirmed yet 04:49:06 <tuanta> alick: your bid has been approved by FAmSCo 04:49:19 <tuanta> then it needs to be confirmed by Fedora Budget Owner 04:49:21 <alick> yes, waiting approval from FPL. 04:49:30 <KageSenshi> xD .. its on May >< .. 04:49:48 <tuanta> but she has not responded any messages we sent to her 04:49:58 <tuanta> time is too close now 04:50:12 <alick> pretty limited time 04:50:23 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014 04:50:38 <tuanta> just three months from now 04:50:58 <alick> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_China_2014 04:51:14 <alick> we consider to run a planning FAD in March. 04:51:26 <tuanta> alick: have you sent a message to fudcon-planning mailing list? 04:51:39 <alick> about the FAD? not yet. 04:51:47 <tuanta> no, for FUDCon 04:51:49 <tuanta> what is that FAD for? 04:52:01 <alick> FUDCon yes 04:52:18 <tuanta> for FUDCon planning, right? 04:52:34 <alick> I read on the wiki we need a FUDCon planning FAD for upcoming FUDCon. 04:52:40 <tuanta> time is too short 04:52:41 <alick> tuanta: yes. 04:53:08 <zsun> tuanta we have a thread on fudcon-planning here https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2014-January/004783.html 04:53:10 <alick> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2014-January/004783.html for FUDCon 04:53:39 <tuanta> yes, I see 04:53:40 <zsun> oh, the same url as alick 04:53:50 <alick> en 04:54:13 <alick> we still think we can make it if we act fast. 04:54:43 <tuanta> now I think all of us (as APAC people) should take our owned chances to nag Robyn and Ruth more to take them more attention about APAC FUDcon 04:55:12 <MavJS> alick: not "can make it", must "make it" :) 04:55:50 <tuanta> so harish, KageSenshi et all, please do whatever you can 04:56:01 <harish> yep 04:56:43 <tuanta> any more things? 04:56:52 <zsun> just reminder, Robyn is in PHX,AZ, so it is UTC-7 by her side 04:57:26 <tuanta> yes, so about a half of day from us 04:57:34 <tuanta> any more about FUDCon now? 04:57:38 <tuanta> move on? 04:57:51 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor 04:58:11 <tuanta> have you got any more thing to discuss today? 04:58:21 <tuanta> I have no 04:58:49 <tuanta> I will close the meeting after two minutes 04:58:54 <KageSenshi> :) 04:58:55 * MavJS has none. 04:59:33 * harish none from me. 04:59:50 <KageSenshi> none here 05:00:03 <alick> one thing from me. 05:00:06 <tuanta> thank you all for coming today :) 05:00:12 <tuanta> #endmeeting