22:28:53 #startmeeting 22:28:54 Meeting started Wed Feb 19 22:28:53 2014 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:28:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:29:13 #meeting_name Fedora Ambassadors Latam 22:29:33 .fas rugebiker 22:29:33 biker: rugebiker 'Ruben Guerra Marin' 22:29:39 #topic rolcall 22:29:46 .fas alexove 22:29:49 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 22:30:11 .fas zerick 22:30:12 zerick: zerick 'Erick Ocrospoma' 22:30:16 .fas echevemaster 22:30:17 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 22:30:19 * echevemaster Venezuela 22:30:37 * biker México/Holanda (: 22:30:39 * alexove => Peru 22:30:58 biker: the man of two worlds 22:31:27 echevemaster: le puedo agregar USA si consideras San Diego :P 22:31:34 .fas kdetony 22:31:35 kde_tony: kdetony 'Anthony Mogrovejo' 22:31:38 biker: no problemo :) 22:31:38 y estaría en 3 regiones,., latam, emea, y NA :p 22:31:40 echevemaster: ese comentario me hace acordar al split de Chuck Norris :-D 22:31:41 hola 22:32:02 .fas tonet666p 22:32:03 TonetJallo: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' 22:32:07 #topic announcements 22:32:20 Luego podran pasar lista quienes vayan llegando :) 22:32:31 alg�n anuncio? 22:32:37 .hellomynameis mayorga 22:32:38 mayorga: mayorga 'Eduardo Mayorga Téllez' 22:32:39 ah echevemaster tú harás el meeting? :O 22:32:41 nice :p 22:32:48 .fas aeperezt 22:32:49 aeperezt_mb: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' 22:32:51 biker: lo estoy haciendo :) 22:32:56 pss neville es fasco ahora, no? :P 22:33:02 echevemaster: genial :D 22:33:09 famsco * 22:33:10 biker: cualquiera de nosotros puede hacer el meeting 22:33:21 echevemaster: lo de neville lo decía como anuncio 22:33:22 si alguno de los chairs principales no est�n. 22:33:52 si Neville es Famsco ahora, felicitaciones por su gran trabajo pasado y mucha suerte en el futuro. 22:34:17 felicidades neville :D 22:34:40 #chair alexove aeperezt_mb biker 22:34:40 Current chairs: aeperezt_mb alexove biker echevemaster 22:34:44 si, neville se lo merece 22:34:59 alg�n topic para abordar? 22:35:28 ¿qué hay en la agenda? ¿dónde está el enlace/ 22:35:30 there is fisl organizatio 22:36:09 and we need to talk a bit fedora.next and how are we going to be part of it 22:36:10 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9/ 22:36:27 also budget 22:37:13 ,fas Richzendy 22:37:17 #topic FISL organization 22:37:30 .fas Richzendy 22:37:31 Richzendy: richzendy 'Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto' 22:37:33 Are the event owners here? 22:37:56 * alexove have a ticket too 22:38:10 ok alexove copied. 22:38:28 thanks 22:38:44 Hola a todos, 22:38:48 .fas lorddemon 22:38:49 lorddemon: lorddemon '' 22:39:00 itamar or lvaz isn't here 22:39:01 hola gonzalo 22:39:13 there are a link 22:39:15 Como esta bro 22:39:18 event owners are lvaz and itamar 22:39:25 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FISL15 22:39:47 some persons already sign their talks there. 22:40:35 what is the deadline for enroll? anyone knows? 22:40:49 echevemaster: are the deadline to put a talk? 22:41:27 afaik yes. i think that leo sent a deadline to the list. 22:41:46 so, i think that persons should put their talks, yet 22:42:15 yes 22:42:26 look at the fisl site 22:42:35 so, the persons that wants enroll to FISL please put their talks here. 22:44:39 acoording to the mail of leo, the deadline was the february 17th. 22:44:49 :-( 22:44:56 I quote "Gostaria de pedir aos colegas que submeteram propostas de palestra 22:44:57 para o FISL que adicionem seus nomes, titulo das apresenta��es e 22:44:57 detalhes sobre as mesmas at� a pr�xima Segunda dia 17 de Fevereiro, 22:44:57 prazo final para o Call for Papers" 22:45:14 aeperezt_mb: what do you say? 22:45:30 that is good 22:45:36 .fas mribeirodantas 22:45:36 mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' 22:45:39 * mribeirodantas Brazil 22:45:58 .fas bernardoha 22:45:59 Bernardoha: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' 22:46:40 Leo will enter to the meeting in one moment. 22:46:51 Hi there 22:46:57 FISL postponed the deadline for talks submission 22:46:58 mribeirodantas: hi there 22:47:14 So it didn't end two days ago. 22:47:41 ok mribeirodantas 22:47:45 It will be open till the 27th of February. 22:47:50 lvaz: how are you? 22:48:07 we are talking about FISL and talk deadline 22:48:18 o/ 22:48:21 .fas arielb 22:48:22 arielb: arielb 'Ariel O. Barria' - arielbackenroth 'ariel backenroth' - arielbarboza 'Ariel Barboza' 22:48:28 .fas lmvaz 22:48:29 lvaz: lmvaz 'Leonardo Menezes Vaz' - leonardovaz 'Leonardo Vaz' 22:48:29 lvaz: go ahead 22:48:38 .fas crsesilva 22:48:38 crsesilva: crsesilva 'Cândido Raphael de Souza e Silva' 22:48:40 #chair mribeirodantas lvaz 22:48:40 Current chairs: aeperezt_mb alexove biker echevemaster lvaz mribeirodantas 22:48:44 echevemaster: Thank you. 22:49:05 echevemaster: talked to organization guys and the deadline was extended to next week, 22:49:46 they told me it's going to be Feb 24 22:49:47 ok, so, please send to the wiki their talks before to the next week 22:50:03 but we need to confirm it in the website 22:50:14 According to http://softwarelivre.org/fisl15/o-evento/chamada-de-trabalhos it is postponed till the 27th February. 22:50:20 #link http://softwarelivre.org/fisl15/o-evento/chamada-de-trabalhos 22:50:47 ok. so what is the proccess of selection of talks here, a specific date? 22:50:49 It is also said that at the beginning of March, voting for selected talks will also start. 22:51:18 According to Wolnei and some other people, distros do not get the attention they deserve. So we must not lose the deadline for voting, so that we have enough fedora presentations selected for the schedule of the event. 22:52:36 ok. 22:52:38 echevemaster: a few days after the submission deadline, a voting process will start where people can vote what talks they'd like to watch in FISL. 22:53:01 What I mean is that we must vote in our fellow talks so that we have fedora talks in FISL. Otherwise, we won't have many (I've never been to FISL, but some contributors who have told me that) 22:54:07 ok, lvaz is the owner event, what do you say lvaz ? 22:54:42 about the mribeirodantas advice 22:55:34 when we can vote for talks? 22:55:52 echevemaster: well, I never noticed this problem. I mean, last year the program was plenty of talks on Fedora. we had at least 5 iirc 22:56:11 5 is a nice number. Not really much to worry then, I think. 22:56:28 echevemaster: beginning of March, if nothing is postponed again. 22:56:32 (according to FISL website) 22:57:07 echevemaster: don't think it's about to force talks get in the program, but submitting interesting things 22:57:37 (it's my 2 bolivares) 22:57:44 yes, I'm agreed, also the budget is limited too. 22:57:48 lol lvaz 22:58:22 echevemaster: yeah, I prefer focus in quality than number 22:58:45 ok, so you're agreed with the the deadmine on beginning on march 22:58:48 or before? 22:59:09 please guys vote for that too. 22:59:33 please give a date.. 22:59:39 lvaz mribeirodantas or anyone else. 22:59:48 for appoint that date in the actions. 23:00:24 echevemaster: on beginning of march is fine. I saw only 8 people submitted talks (at least there's only those talks in the wiki) 23:00:47 march seems ok (: though im not part of that :B 23:00:49 ok, all are agreed? 23:00:58 * LoKoMurdoK here 23:01:00 lvaz: o/ 23:01:06 .fas lbazan 23:01:06 LoKoMurdoK: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' 23:01:09 biker: hey! 23:01:20 * LoKoMurdoK Panama 23:01:56 #action the vote for FISL talks will be for the first meeting of March. 23:03:14 #topic Fedora.Next 23:03:50 guys this part of the world should be more involved on the next era of Fedora. 23:04:16 so we want discuss about it and about your ideas. 23:04:32 #chair aeperezt 23:04:32 Current chairs: aeperezt aeperezt_mb alexove biker echevemaster lvaz mribeirodantas 23:05:08 .fas cardinali 23:05:08 ezq: ezq 'Ezequiel M. Cardinali' 23:05:19 .fas lletelier 23:05:21 geek_cl: lletelier 'Larry Letelier' 23:05:39 echevemaster: wait. 23:05:53 Since the way in that contributions are made will change, we might want to find other ways to "sell" Fedora out. 23:06:04 Sorry for not having spoken before. I had to leave for a second. What exactly is this deadline you're talking about? 23:06:39 mribeirodantas: vote for talks. 23:06:50 another vote or you mean the FISL voting? 23:07:01 s/vote/voting 23:07:16 FISL voting 23:07:52 Ok. By the way, if anyone happen to find a nice offer for flight ticket, please share among contributors. 23:08:07 So, when encouraging people to join Fedora Project, we must make clear the fact that Fedora remain as Fedora and not a split community/distro. 23:08:09 During Latinoware I found a nice offer and other ambassadors managed to buy a ticket with 50% the normal price 23:08:24 so guys, don't forget to share :-) 23:08:44 mribeirodantas, http://fpaste.org/78768/28512231/ 23:10:03 ok. mribeirodantas good to hear that 23:10:17 I pasted FISL official website link already, arielb. They postponed it. 23:10:53 mribeirodantas, ok, perfect 23:11:21 ok we are on other topic. 23:11:50 guys we need to be more involved on fedora.next, their meetings and know their governance 23:12:10 so, as community we should enter to the new era. 23:12:17 sorry 23:13:11 also, we want to call to all contributor for doing engineer projects for this new era of Fedora. 23:13:25 :-) 23:14:13 It seems like development workflow will be the most affected. 23:14:28 mayorga: why? 23:14:31 Other subprojects won't change that much. 23:14:47 I mean, l10n, marketing, infra... 23:15:26 Well, we'll have to adapt, mayorga. 23:15:30 Fedora.Next is all about the distribution itself in technical aspects. 23:15:44 There will be more things to translate. Marketing must know every detail, and ambassadors should catch up with such data 23:16:09 I think we can to promote Fedora in Universities with help with degree Thesis, like GSOC 23:16:11 Development workflow will definitely be the aspect that will change the most, but every other team will have to adapt too somehow. 23:16:38 mribeirodantas: Right, but that's secondary. 23:16:48 not just ambassadors, many ambassadors also have technical skills. we have to enter in that projects, collaborate with Fedora upstream 23:17:49 And there will be many new contributing opportunities for newcomers as well. 23:18:01 exactly mayorga 23:18:27 So I may be easier for us to give them a path for getting involved. 23:18:28 ! 23:19:15 so, we can structure a collaborate system into Fedora development workflow. please think in concrete ideas for discuss to the next meeting. 23:19:16 mayorga: Excellent idea. 23:19:20 we are agreed? 23:19:27 echevemaster: +1 23:19:42 Ok 23:19:51 not is just latam. It is Fedora community. 23:20:24 ok 23:20:29 next topic 23:20:44 ! 23:20:50 mayorga: go ahead 23:20:58 echevemaster: alexove have ! 23:21:00 yep :) 23:21:08 arielb: go ahead 23:21:21 please. 23:21:53 Ok 23:21:53 First alexove and them arielb 23:22:22 oops sorry, I meant you, alexove 23:22:36 Dare la opinion en español porque se me hace un revuelto en la cabeza con el ingles 23:22:42 alexove: no 23:22:43 jajaja 23:22:44 diga 23:23:08 tengo la idea de que sponsorear proyectos de Tesis de pregrado en la universidades 23:23:16 excelente. alexove 23:23:33 para los que quieran mayor detalle 23:23:50 .fas wolnei 23:23:51 wolnei: wolnei '' - charged '' 23:24:02 en la universidad como la mia por ejemplo, hay muy buenas ideas de tesis de pregrado pero no hay docentes visionarios ni capacitados para soportarlos 23:24:11 * LoKoMurdoK lorddemon new ambassador of bolivia 23:24:21 * LoKoMurdoK :-) 23:24:30 felicidades lordemon 23:24:32 :-) 23:24:37 alexove: Me gusta tu idea. 23:24:46 Gracias 23:24:46 alexove: maybe would be an great idea do a wiki page for that. 23:24:54 You can? alexove 23:24:57 lorddemon: in open floor please give your intro :-) 23:25:01 hay muy buenas ideas en varios sentidos, inteligencia artificial, robotica, etc pero no hay profesores muy capacitados 23:25:03 LoKoMurdoK: welcome aboard. 23:25:14 alexove: always is so. 23:25:18 felicidades lordemon :D 23:25:29 lorddemon: :-) 23:25:42 en la comunidad hay mucha gente que sabe de estas cosas y al menos por aca existe la posibilidad de tener un Co-Asesor que puede ser cualquier profesional 23:25:57 que apoye al tesista en sun proyecto 23:26:28 Well, as Neville (yn1v) once said, we should invest on skill transfer. In order to achieve this, we might focus on special Working Groups, in the one each ambassador is fully involved. 23:26:32 alexove, +1 23:26:39 y obviamente este desarrollo o aporte deberia ser Software libre(El desarrollo) y Creative Commons (en caso de la documentacion) 23:27:03 ok sounds very good.!! 23:27:11 y que la comunidad le de un reconocimiento (oficial si es que se pudiera) para motivarlos y que tengan buenas referencias laborales 23:27:42 we can write a global idea in the wiki 23:27:42 y esos aportes tambien se incluyan en fedora en forma de producto o documentación. 23:27:44 Hola buenas, Mi nombre es Gonzalo Nina Trabajo desde hace res anios en 23:28:27 Exacto, pero se me acaba de ocurrir la idea y hay muchas cosas que tengo que masticas (hay apoyo economico a tesis por ejemplo) 23:28:46 y articular todas esas cosas es para un poco de tiempo 23:29:21 precisely. if we can put in order our ideas and present an articulated project, will be better for discuss 23:29:37 echevemaster: +1 23:29:44 so, look a good name for the project, and list all the features. 23:30:04 the idea is doing globally, not locally. 23:30:20 exacto echevemaster 23:30:25 Hola buenas, Mi nombre es Gonzalo Nina Trabajo desde hace cuatro anios en Sysadmin con Linux en mi universidad y mas de 5 a�os en linux, En mi pais Bolivia no existe la comunidad de Fedora me gustaria hacerla crecer. leo con mucha atencion su compromiso con la comunidad y eso es una parte fundamental del creciento, muchas gracias por aceptarme en ella. Perdon por este OT 23:30:53 hola lorddemon bienvenido 23:31:00 #action alexove will do a wiki page for a project that searches mentoring in their work degree at the students 23:31:13 podr�s entrar a #fedora-latam? 23:31:19 lorddemon, 23:31:27 por lo menos deberiamos pensar a nivel latinoamericano por lo pronto, ¿no creen? 23:31:57 alexove: that is the idea, but latin america must export too.. 23:32:19 echevemaster:+1 23:32:53 next topic 23:33:04 alexove: 23:33:06 ...so we should encourage diversity among us. 23:33:09 your ticket. 23:33:18 es el ticket 191 23:33:33 vamos a hacer un release party 23:33:42 Good! 23:33:53 necesito apoyo con un par de charlas por hangouts 23:34:12 para este sabado 23:34:18 #topic Ticket 191 Apoyo para Fedora 20 Release Party 23:34:35 who wants ? 23:34:43 el tiempo para cada charla es de una hora (incluyendo preguntas si la hubiera) 23:35:56 alexove: I'll be in Chile this Saturday, unfortunately. So unfortunately I can't help you this time :( 23:36:17 Unless the time matches later than 22:00 local timezone of Santiago. Then for sure I will be at the hotel, and then I can help you. 23:36:53 mribeirodantas: gracias de todos modos :-) 23:37:03 Buenas 23:37:17 Good afternoon, we're on meeting? 23:37:20 alexove: I have an appointment, sorry. 23:37:26 llego mi salvación, dique si kovalesky :-) 23:37:35 sí a qué? 23:37:43 .fas sophiekovalevsky 23:37:44 kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky '' 23:37:45 tu di si nomas XD 23:37:52 Panamá 23:38:08 alexove, I can't say it before know what's about. 23:38:09 estoy buscando un par de personas que me ayuden con un par de charlas para un release party para este sabado 23:38:11 :-) 23:38:21 kovalevsky: "smile you're being videotaped" 23:38:43 lvaz, how you doing? I'm so glad to see you around here. 23:38:55 lvaz, xD "smile". 23:39:13 kovalevsky: just chilling 23:39:34 lvaz: what type of troll 23:39:51 :) 23:39:52 alexove, I could say yes =) 23:40:06 Ok 23:40:13 muchas gracias kovalesky 23:40:36 las charlas son a partir de las 9:30 (estamos en la misma zona horaria) 23:40:46 9:30 A.M o P.M? 23:40:50 am 23:41:23 alexove, that's ok. 23:41:26 alexove: me sumo 23:41:41 Gracias LokoMurdok 23:41:59 porfa me pueden enviar un correo electronico despues? 23:42:22 alexove, when? 23:42:41 Ok en un rato te lo envio 23:42:47 kovalevsky: sabado 23:42:52 Este sabado (22-02-2014) 23:43:00 good 23:43:01 echevemaster: i have something to announce short before the meeting ends 23:43:09 ok. 23:43:16 :) 23:43:23 go 23:43:25 #topic open floor 23:43:31 lvaz: go ahead 23:43:48 echevemaster: yesterday Danniel Lara contacted the Hostel to check the prices and availability, and the costs raised a little bit because the world cup. we need to book it soon or else we won't get affordable prices. so it's important know everyone needing funds so we can book the hostel. a room for 6 people will cost 300 brl per day, and 1500 brl from May 6-11. 23:43:50 echevemaster: 23:44:40 * alexove tiene clases y salir volando, gracias por el apoyo a todos... 23:44:41 so we have to do the tickets 23:44:44 understood. 23:44:50 it means we need to be hurry and define how many people will stay at the hostel so it can get booked. 23:45:05 I love the nick of lvaz 23:45:09 ok, guys do the ticket. now. 23:45:11 Just lvaz. 23:45:12 O 23:45:24 lvaz kovalevsky love it 23:45:28 kovalevsky: actually it means "el vaz" 23:45:29 their nick.. 23:45:41 O vaz!!! 23:45:46 ;-) 23:46:12 #action please make the ticket fot the accomodation of FISL 23:46:20 echevemaster: not just the tickets, but propose talks and fill the wiki 23:46:20 wolnei: around? 23:46:30 wolnei, ping 23:46:43 wolnei: how many people we had at the Hostel last year? 23:46:46 Here 23:46:54 8 23:47:05 wolnei: two rooms? 23:47:20 Yes, private with 4 beds 23:47:46 lvaz: i did the call for talks too. 23:47:57 anyone else. mates? 23:48:32 we have 7 people requesting lodging so far 23:48:56 and the talks have to be good talks 23:49:06 not just talks to go to the event 23:49:14 it means that we'll need at least a room for 6 and another for 4 people. 23:49:21 yes. that is right 23:49:27 that's gonna be expensive 23:49:44 500 brl per day, 2500 for conference 23:49:45 How many ambassadors do live in POA? 23:49:47 Yes 23:49:55 Maybe some of them could help with hosting 23:50:05 2 23:50:09 wolnei: you're from SC, right? 23:50:24 who is from porto alegre? 23:50:31 Yes 23:51:03 Daniel Lara and Douglas 23:51:20 According to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Pt_BR/Projetos/Censo_2013 there are a lot 23:51:32 6 at least (if it's up to date) 23:51:33 echevemaster: daniel lara and marcelo barbosa 23:51:40 wolnei: douglas will host a colleague from red hat 23:52:08 Amador? 23:52:22 its good talk with them 23:52:37 wolnei: amador moved back to his hometown 23:52:51 marcelo mello is living in US 23:52:53 wolnei: amador lives here now :-) 23:53:18 I think marcos vieira still in Porto Alegre 23:53:21 I will try to talk to Daniel and Marcelo, and see if they could 23:53:27 I now he live up, i ask if was him Douglas will host 23:53:37 ok. 23:53:38 wolnei: oh 23:53:51 rosset is living outside porto alegre 23:55:13 we can finish the meeting? 23:55:17 echevemaster: sure. 23:55:22 This meeting will self-destruct in 23:55:23 Next meeting I will try to bring news regarding this. 23:55:24 5 23:55:25 4 23:55:26 lol 23:55:26 3 23:55:29 2 23:55:30 1 23:55:34 #endmeeting