18:00:51 <smooge> #startmeeting Fedora Infrastructure (2014-04-10) 18:00:52 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 10 18:00:51 2014 UTC. The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:52 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:01:04 <smooge> #meetingname Fedora Infrastructure Weekly Roundup 18:01:04 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_infrastructure_weekly_roundup' 18:01:29 * relrod here 18:01:29 * mirek-hm is here 18:01:34 <janeznemanic> hi 18:01:37 <smooge> #topic robot roll call 18:01:40 * docent here 18:01:45 * danofsatx-work is waiting for roll calkl 18:01:52 <danofsatx-work> oh there it is...here 18:02:26 <smooge> #chairs relrod 18:02:32 <smooge> #chair relrod 18:02:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: relrod smooge 18:02:48 <smooge> hi guys most people are at conferences today so I expect a short meeting 18:02:53 <smooge> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 18:03:05 <smooge> Any new apprentices 18:03:11 * pingou 18:03:23 <pingou> no rollcall ? :) 18:03:58 <smooge> I did roll call 18:04:16 <danofsatx-work> roll call was at 13:01 - you missed it, so you're officially not here 18:04:18 <danofsatx-work> ;) 18:04:18 <smooge> you missed it. put 10 cents in the late jar :) 18:04:20 <pingou> sorry, I missed it :) 18:04:32 * pingou goes sell his laptop for 10 cents 18:04:50 <smooge> I want real copper pennies too. not those zinc things which aren't worth anything 18:04:54 * webpigeon waves and applogies for lateness 18:05:01 <danofsatx-work> I guess that was either 1801 or 1901UTC..... 18:05:02 <smooge> hi webpigeon 18:05:06 <webpigeon> o/ 18:05:30 <smooge> are there any apprentice items that people are looking at? 18:05:42 <smooge> danofsatx-work, thanks for looking into the disk storage of logs 18:06:02 <webpigeon> I've not got any assigned to me at the moment, but i'm planning on looking at the easyfix list again tonight :) 18:06:06 <danofsatx-work> np, I haven't checked the tickets this week, been busy @real job 18:06:31 <smooge> thanks webpigeon 18:06:41 <docent> i got something; still working on it; nothing that really makes any big difference ;) 18:06:54 <danofsatx-work> and I haven't actually started compressing the logs...was that up to me, or were you or nirik going to handle that part? 18:06:55 <docent> => not worth mentioning 18:07:08 <smooge> I will be doing a recompress of various files to try and save some space and hopefully we will get a larger disk store for the old stuff 18:07:28 <pingou> if there is someone a little more into web-dev, I tagged some tickets as easyfix for fedocal 18:07:45 <docent> python-web-dev? 18:07:50 <pingou> yes 18:07:57 <docent> ok will take a look later :) 18:07:58 <pingou> (nuancier also has one) 18:08:06 <smooge> danofsatx-work, it was up to me.. the logs should be protected to sysadmin-main for recompression and such 18:08:24 <danofsatx-work> understood 18:08:33 <smooge> danofsatx-work, as in you tell me what to run, I check it, and run it 18:08:48 <smooge> so you will still be doing it and I am just a lame sudo 18:09:15 <smooge> docent well every little bit counts. 18:09:30 <docent> smooge: im looking currently on fedocal github repo 18:09:39 <smooge> I will be on vacation next week and I am hoping to have some time away from computers to write up what our documentation needs are :() 18:10:05 <smooge> docent, cool. pingou always likes some help 18:10:12 * pingou agrees 18:10:18 <smooge> any other apprentices? 18:11:49 <webpigeon> pingou: where are the web dev easyfix tickets? 18:12:17 <pingou> webpigeon: all the easyfix are listed at http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ 18:12:23 <docent> right, same question. didnt saw those here https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 18:13:08 <webpigeon> cool, was looking in the fedora-infrastructure trac 18:13:40 <pingou> :) 18:13:49 * oddshocks is here 18:13:53 * oddshocks was distracted by PyCon ;) 18:14:24 <pingou> check for kookie? 18:14:28 <smooge> ok I am going to the next topic? 18:14:29 <oddshocks> lol 18:14:33 <smooge> #topic Applications status / discussion 18:14:42 * pingou has been on a release spree 18:14:48 <pingou> #info new nuancier in stg and prod 18:14:54 <pingou> #info new pkgdb2 in stg 18:15:02 <mirek-hm> #info new copr in prod 18:15:03 <smooge> so pingou I think you are the sole app guy today. you will be covering for threebean abadger and lmacken and .. 18:15:21 <mirek-hm> which unfortunatelly somehow broke fedmsg :( 18:15:21 <smooge> oh and mirek-hm .. sorry 18:15:28 <pingou> #infos elections2 pushed to stg and prod (special thanks to fchiulli that did most of the heavy lifting and threebean that helped reviewing the last bits) 18:15:49 <smooge> mirek-hm, if you use esperanto next time in the messages maybe it will work better? 18:16:43 <pingou> other than that most of the team is at pycon, either from today or from a couple of days ago 18:16:55 <pingou> and the one left are completely jealous :) 18:16:59 <pingou> ones* 18:17:46 * pingou eof 18:17:54 <smooge> its ok.. I hear it sucks, the food is bad, and you are the only one who speaks the language 18:18:06 <smooge> and they don't even speak french correctly :) 18:18:27 <smooge> mirek-hm, anything else on coprs ? 18:19:02 <pingou> smooge: thanks mate :) 18:19:28 <mirek-hm> mirek-hm: nope, our team released this week softwarecollections.org but that is outside of Fedora 18:19:44 * mirek-hm talks to himself 18:19:48 <pingou> ^^ 18:19:49 <smooge> well actually that sounds like something that might deal with fedora 18:20:01 <smooge> infrastructure that is 18:20:46 <smooge> mirek-hm, eg anything in it that might affect our build systems etc as needed? 18:21:10 <smooge> mirek-hm, any software release is hard work and congrats. 18:21:30 <pingou> mirek-hm: looks nice! congrats :) 18:21:51 <smooge> ok time for next topic 18:22:21 <smooge> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 18:22:53 <smooge> OK I am in the process of getting more hardware installed. 18:22:58 <danofsatx-work> yay! 18:23:05 <danofsatx-work> MOAR POWER! 18:23:13 <smooge> I ran out of IP addresses for the machines after I put in their mgmt interfaces 18:23:14 <mirek-hm> we had issue with f. cloud at begging of this week (it does not give IP) we worked with nirik on that and suddenly fixed itself. somehow. I still could not run as much builders I would want but it runs... this somehow raised priority for me to reinstall that Fedora Cloud to new version. 18:23:52 <smooge> mirek-hm, we have new hardware in place finally. it will be a matter of installing it and getting it provisioned now 18:24:41 <smooge> so I expect new version will be within our lifetime 18:24:44 <mirek-hm> can you specify those hardware? more details please :) 18:24:58 <smooge> 3 Dell r520's 18:25:22 <smooge> they will be configured as the new cloud and then the old cloud boxes will be rebuilt to meet it 18:25:40 <smooge> We are working on quotes for storage and such. 18:26:12 <smooge> that will be here hopefully by beginning of June. 18:26:19 <mirek-hm> nice 18:27:05 <smooge> Most of the week has been dealing with heartbleed. 18:27:23 <pingou> but you're getting a badge for it 18:27:49 <smooge> Kevin and Dennis (and lots of others) put a lot of effort into getting it working and then making sure it worked 18:28:19 <pingou> kudos! 18:29:20 <smooge> We are still working on what we will do next. Reissueing certs and such is an expensive item. A major change all your passwords is even more expensive 18:30:11 <pingou> but if we want to change our password it's a good time to do it 18:30:17 <pingou> we have the proper argument 18:30:32 <smooge> pingou, well it is a good time when we are sure its not going to be leaked 5 minutes in the future 18:30:56 <smooge> I would like to take a couple of weeks as people actually audit openssl and find any other 'wat?' bits in it 18:31:00 <pingou> smooge: sounds like as good as any then :) 18:31:13 <pingou> but wfm to wait a little more 18:31:43 <smooge> plus I fell on the sword last time for making everyone change their passwords. I need to find someone new 18:31:52 <smooge> anyway.. 18:32:01 <smooge> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 18:32:10 <smooge> #info Flock Talks can be voted on 18:32:24 <pingou> until May 1st 18:32:33 <smooge> yep.. remember to vote for the talks you want told.. even if you aren't going. 18:32:59 * mirek-hm is voting right now, but the range 1..128 is little bit detailed :) 18:33:09 <smooge> OH GOD they went ranged again... 18:33:21 <smooge> I cry for you all 18:33:34 <pingou> we have the choice now 18:33:36 <pingou> range or simple 18:33:47 <pingou> but I guess we need a simplified range 18:33:50 <pingou> or so 18:33:52 <smooge> which is why I wonder why they went with range 18:34:04 <smooge> pingou, we need concordanant to keep up with the Debs 18:34:13 <mirek-hm> it seems more choices is better for somebody :) 18:34:27 <pingou> I said to nirik to use range 18:34:36 <pingou> so blame is on me :-p 18:34:43 <smooge> anyway I think there are a lot of good talks and they should hopefully all be videod for later viewing 18:34:52 <smooge> pingou, you are a bad bad man 18:35:12 * pingou goes seel his soul for another 10 cents 18:35:17 <pingou> sell* 18:35:26 * pingou tries to find a free keyboard 18:35:38 <smooge> #info Upcoming FAD 18:35:48 <smooge> I do not know much about this or where its state is. 18:36:00 <smooge> and I think everyone who does is not here. 18:36:05 <pingou> afaik, the tickets have been bought 18:36:14 <pingou> and they were looking into the housing question 18:36:20 <pingou> but maybe they solved it as well by now 18:36:48 <smooge> so lets just say "People are going to Denver. They will have a bacchanal at least one night. Roman robes are required." 18:37:11 <smooge> people can correct me later 18:37:25 <pingou> with an #info? 18:37:43 <smooge> #info "People are going to Denver. They will have a bacchanal at least one night. Roman robes are required." 18:37:46 <smooge> ok done 18:37:50 <pingou> otherwise it might be missed in the logs :D 18:37:50 <smooge> #topic Open Floor 18:38:18 <smooge> So what wasn't on the agenda that people want to talk about that is infrastructure related? 18:38:36 <docent> hmm 18:39:04 <docent> one thing - are there any details on moving from github to gitlab? any project webpage or something? 18:39:24 * pingou didn't know that was a plan 18:39:46 <pingou> docent: afaik packaging is still an issue before anything can be done 18:39:49 <docent> it was mentioned during gitlab meeting; one project was about gitlab rpms, second one about moving 18:39:53 <docent> sure 18:40:05 <oddshocks> Hope to see some of you folks here in Montreal this week :) 18:40:19 <pingou> oddshocks: the ones here are the ones not going ;-) 18:40:29 <danofsatx-work> I have an item I'd like to share....first the preface. I work in a dev shop, wherein the development network is a Windows AD domain. 18:40:45 <pingou> danofsatx-work: I'd be curious about that second part :)\ 18:40:55 <pingou> sorry that was for docent 18:40:59 <danofsatx-work> My devs use windows solely to launch VMware workstation and run CentOS and/or Suse for the development work. 18:41:04 <oddshocks> pingou: ahh bummer. I figure there must be a few on planes now :) 18:41:10 <smooge> docent, there is a lot of ifs before a plan could be done 18:41:21 <pingou> danofsatx-work: indeed 18:41:32 <pingou> danofsatx-work: that sounds handy 18:41:34 <danofsatx-work> So, we're moving away from AD finally, and using that as justification to send me to RHCE training at RDU in June. 18:41:41 <pingou> oddshocks: indeed 18:41:48 <smooge> docent, it needs to be packaged up, it needs to be installed and tested seen how it works or not for the people using it. 18:42:00 <pingou> smooge: and people maintaining it :) 18:42:10 <danofsatx-work> I'm finally going to get certified, and be running a Fedora workstation network with CentOS servers in the back. 18:42:11 <smooge> pingou, and people maintaining it 18:42:20 <pingou> danofsatx-work: awesome! 18:42:54 * danofsatx-work hates AD 18:44:19 <smooge> docent, we have had a history of good ideas put in place without sufficient people doing the other parts of keeping it going. So I try to make sure a bunch of "we will really really really keep this going" is in place so I don't have to be the guy who kills projects that no one uses but everyone liked knowing we had anyway :) 18:45:27 <smooge> docent, so I would work with the guys who were in that meeting on how to keep momentum going 18:46:02 <smooge> danofsatx-work, good job. I hope the training goes well. 18:46:21 <danofsatx-work> should be a breeze ;) 18:46:21 <smooge> ok anything else? If not I will close in 60 seconds 18:48:20 <smooge> #endmeeting Thanks for all the fish.