14:04:38 <Sparks> #startmeeting Fedora Docs
14:04:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Apr 14 14:04:38 2014 UTC.  The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:04:40 <zodbot> randomuser: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
14:04:42 <randomuser> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:04:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:04:44 <randomuser> #topic Roll Call
14:04:47 * pbokoc 
14:04:55 * jreznik is around
14:04:58 * randomuser waves
14:05:02 * Sparks 
14:05:07 <mpduty> .fas mohanprakash
14:05:08 <zodbot> mpduty: mohanprakash 'mohan prakash' <mpduty@gmail.com>
14:05:12 <Sparks> #chair randomuser
14:05:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sparks randomuser
14:05:39 <randomuser> sorry, running a bit late today
14:06:25 * jjmcd is here but only barely - tracking issues around the state mostly flooding
14:07:05 <randomuser> jjmcd, FEMA has some neat flood zone KMLs
14:07:45 <jjmcd> randomuser, our critical incident management system has some pretty cool stuff too
14:08:58 <randomuser> Sparks, are you going to carry on, or am I?
14:09:20 * randomuser has another meeting at the end of the hour, can't carry over
14:10:12 <randomuser> #topic New Writers
14:10:15 <Sparks> randomuser: All yours
14:10:24 <randomuser> are there any new writers here today?
14:10:44 <randomuser> alternatively, has anyone made contact with new writers?
14:11:23 <randomuser> mpduty, that's you :)
14:11:34 <mpduty> randomuser: yes
14:11:51 <mpduty> I am new, yet to get used to technicalities
14:11:55 <mpduty> but I can write
14:12:11 <randomuser> mpduty, have you found something to write about ?
14:12:57 <mpduty> I am translating creating live disks in Hindi
14:13:18 <mpduty> but haven't decided what to write for docs
14:13:51 <randomuser> yeah, i noticed you've met l10n and a few other groups, great that you're diving in!
14:14:14 <mpduty> I really want to go on with docs
14:15:13 <randomuser> mpduty, visit us in #fedora-docs sometime to chat
14:15:19 <mpduty> I can write, only not sure what I shall start with :)
14:15:32 <randomuser> If you have some ideas for short tutorials, we can put it in the Cookbook
14:15:40 <mpduty> randomuser: sure
14:16:23 <randomuser> there's usually someone in there to help, but you can also mail a mentor if that works better for you
14:16:26 <randomuser> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_mentors
14:16:45 <mpduty> that will be very helpful indeed
14:17:41 <randomuser> great, see you around
14:17:56 <mpduty> :)
14:18:01 <randomuser> I don't see lnovich has spoken up yet, we'll postpone SEO for now
14:18:11 <randomuser> #topic Publican/ Publishing
14:18:20 <randomuser> is jsmith here ?
14:18:52 <randomuser> #info randomuser is behind on writing the ansible definition for the docs backend
14:19:32 <randomuser> # at the last meeting, the docs backend was functional but had some branding issues
14:19:39 <randomuser> #info at the last meeting, the docs backend was functional but had some branding issues
14:19:45 * randomuser gulps coffee
14:20:18 <randomuser> Sparks, any news on the promised tools for self-service package adds?
14:21:31 <Sparks> randomuser: No news.
14:21:48 <randomuser> k
14:22:14 <randomuser> looks like no notable progress this week on publishing, let us move on
14:22:45 <randomuser> hm.. next on the agenda is Product updates; i don't think we have any
14:23:02 <randomuser> #topic Guide Status
14:23:20 <randomuser> #info randomuser has started writing 'recipes' for the Cookbook
14:23:55 <randomuser> #info there is a badges ticket opened for contributing to the cookbook
14:24:31 <randomuser> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/259
14:25:25 <randomuser> #info Cookbook contributions are 'low hanging fruit' for new contributors, so please participate as a submitter or reviewer or both
14:26:02 <randomuser> that's all I have to report for Guide work this week - who else has been working on a Guide?
14:26:25 <ciupicri> stupid question: where's the cookbook right now?
14:28:01 <mpduty> randomuser: are you the recipes on the wiki
14:28:19 <ciupicri> and as a reminder for the the SEO thing, searching "Fedora Cookbook" with Google doesn't show any meaningful results
14:29:31 <randomuser> ciupicri, just in git right now
14:29:50 <randomuser> i wanted to have some content in there before publishing
14:30:16 <ciupicri> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/fedora-cookbook.git right?
14:30:27 <randomuser> that's the one
14:31:16 <randomuser> if you browse through the tree, you'll see there's also an examples folder with a template for recipes
14:31:25 <ciupicri> ok
14:33:44 <mpduty> ok, can I push my work?
14:41:28 <randomuser> i'm struggling with some lag here, not ignoring the meeting
14:41:54 <randomuser> mpduty, if you mean 'push' as in 'git push', no, that won't work
14:41:57 <randomuser> but you can share patches
14:42:46 <mpduty> but I failed to clone, it says please make sure you have the correct access rights
14:43:22 <randomuser> you might be able to use the http URI
14:43:43 <randomuser> if you're trying to use the ssh one and failing
14:44:17 * randomuser makes a note to see if the docs repos can be +r for docs and +rw for docs-writers
14:44:49 <randomuser> mpduty, try https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/docs/fedora-cookbook.git
14:45:13 <mpduty> yes, alright
14:45:27 <randomuser> let's talk bugs
14:45:36 <randomuser> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
14:45:42 <randomuser> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:46:38 <randomuser> pbokoc, there's a new one against the install guide asking for directions on setting up a 'rescue environment' chroot using a live image - do you think it works there, or better somewhere else?
14:47:11 <randomuser> i'm already covering the area in the multiboot-guide, whenever it gets to the point of publishing
14:47:25 <pbokoc> randomuser, it works there better than anywhere else, I think.
14:47:42 <pbokoc> in fact, we have that documented in the RHEL7 version
14:47:49 <randomuser> cool
14:48:23 <pbokoc> there's a "Basic System Recovery" chapter in the back that talks about this, and points people to the sysadmin guide for other rescue modes (single user mode, etc.)
14:48:46 * sclark arrives rather late
14:49:33 <pbokoc> so when the RHEL7 guide is finished I'll start working on making a new, better Fedora install guide based on the RHEL7 one, which will fix that bug too
14:50:12 <randomuser> it seems like we have a few things pending rhel7 work - around when is that planned for release?
14:50:43 <pbokoc> I think that's secret, unfortunately :/
14:51:22 <randomuser> mostly wondering if it will land before/after f21 release, which is also unstated
14:51:35 <randomuser> BUT! I won't push the issue, NDA is NDA
14:51:52 <pbokoc> yeah, but looking at the F21 timeline, RHEL7 should be out before that with enough time to get the books ready for Fedora
14:52:17 <pbokoc> (plus I bet F21 will probably end up being pushed back even more :))
14:52:22 <randomuser> heh
14:52:55 <randomuser> has anyone else spotted a bug we should discuss?
14:54:22 <randomuser> #topic Open Floor Discussion
14:55:22 <randomuser> was there an Office Hours yesterday?
14:56:13 <randomuser> doesn't look like it
14:56:39 * pbokoc shrugs
14:56:47 <randomuser> #info next docs office hours is 17APR 1800UTC
14:56:55 <Sparks> randomuser: When are all the office hours?
14:57:24 <randomuser> Sparks, early thursday afternoon, early sunday morning
14:57:32 <randomuser> for our hemisphere, anyway
14:58:14 <sclark> sparks, times for Office Hours are in Fedocal under Events
14:59:19 <randomuser> okay, I need to go on to the next meeting
14:59:34 <randomuser> thanks for coming everyone, refreshments in #fedora-docs after
14:59:54 <randomuser> (specifically, pbokoc's refreshing wit - no snacks)
15:00:00 <randomuser> #endmeeting