15:03:38 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig
15:03:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue May  6 15:03:38 2014 UTC.  The chair is rdieter. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:03:44 <rdieter> #topic roll call
15:03:55 <rdieter> hi all, who's present for a kde-sig meeting today?
15:03:56 * jgrulich is present
15:04:13 <tosky> hi
15:04:39 * jmarrero is present
15:04:49 * pino|work too
15:04:52 <Kevin_Kofler> Present.
15:05:03 <hhorak> drieden: hm, we seem to have a conflict with another meeting, let's find another room on #fedora-stacks
15:05:15 * jreznik_ is here
15:05:16 <dvratil> present
15:05:34 <Kevin_Kofler> hhorak: We (KDE) have always been at 15:00 UTC, see the wiki and Fedocal.
15:06:25 <rdieter> #info jgrulich tosky  pino|work Kevin_Kofler  jreznik_ dvratil ltinkl present
15:06:40 <rdieter> #info rdieter too
15:06:41 <rdieter> :)
15:06:44 <rdieter> #chair jgrulich tosky  pino|work Kevin_Kofler  jreznik_ dvratil ltinkl
15:06:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dvratil jgrulich jreznik_ ltinkl pino|work rdieter tosky
15:06:52 <rdieter> #topic agenda
15:07:06 <rdieter> topics for today?  I can do 'kde-4.12.5 update status'
15:08:29 <dvratil> I submitted another batch of KF5 packages for review
15:08:48 <Kevin_Kofler> Good.
15:10:13 * Kevin_Kofler is still waiting for a reviewer for kcm_systemd. :-(
15:10:19 <rdieter> i guess that may be it, let's get started
15:10:20 <Kevin_Kofler> .bug 1085130
15:10:23 <zodbot> Kevin_Kofler: Bug 1085130 Review Request: kcm_systemd - Systemd control module for KDE - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1085130
15:10:25 <rdieter> #topic kde-4.12.5 update status
15:11:03 <rdieter> in short, 4.12.5 looking good, received a fair bit of + karma already, thinking of queue'ing for stable updates at this point.
15:11:19 <rdieter> any comment or objection to that plan?
15:11:32 <Kevin_Kofler> No objections, go ahead.
15:12:11 <dvratil> +1
15:12:13 <pino|work> +1
15:12:56 <ltinkl> +1
15:13:11 <rdieter> ok, will do... moving on
15:13:30 <rdieter> #topic kf5 pkgs ready for review
15:13:35 <rdieter> dvratil: your turn
15:14:02 <dvratil> I submitted all Tier 1 frameworks for review, so if you have nothing better to do, feel free to look at them :-)
15:14:21 * jgrulich already started with reviews
15:14:23 <dvratil> .bug 1086148
15:14:27 <zodbot> dvratil: Bug 1086148 KDE Frameworks 5 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1086148
15:15:14 <rdieter> yay
15:15:20 <dvratil> I'm also trying to build 4.99.0 release in Copr, but Copr is not very cooperative today
15:15:20 <jmarrero> :D
15:16:18 <dvratil> jgrulich has been working on Plasma Next and Application Next packages, so we will bring th repo up to date and I'd like to create a live ISO
15:17:00 <Kevin_Kofler> Now if only we had a pure KDE image to base the live ISO on… hint hint. ;-)
15:17:22 <dvratil> hopefully I'll do it this week, but that depends mostly on how much friendly will Copr be :-)
15:17:37 <Kevin_Kofler> (You can use my current Kannolo kickstart as a base, but then it won't be installable, unless you readd Anaconda…)
15:18:03 <dvratil> we don't want it installable probably, so that would be good :)
15:18:23 <Kevin_Kofler> :-)
15:18:25 <rdieter> being "pure kde" or not is tangential
15:18:40 <Kevin_Kofler> There's the magic: http://svn.calcforge.org/viewvc/kannolo/trunk/kickstart/ :-)
15:18:42 <rdieter> ie, it does not matter
15:19:25 <jgrulich> two reviews done :)
15:20:05 <Kevin_Kofler> Or you can start from the Fedora KDE live ISO, or from scratch if you're courageous. :-) It's up to you.
15:21:03 <rdieter> dvratil: anything else?
15:21:09 <dvratil> that's all :)
15:21:32 <rdieter> great, thanks for the good news
15:21:51 <rdieter> #topic open discussion
15:21:57 <rdieter> anything else for today?
15:22:21 <rdieter> oh, I've been tracking some bugs/regressions, will give a quick update
15:22:46 <Kevin_Kofler> Well, if you're at reviewing things, there's:
15:22:50 <Kevin_Kofler> .bug 1085130
15:22:54 <zodbot> Kevin_Kofler: Bug 1085130 Review Request: kcm_systemd - Systemd control module for KDE - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1085130
15:23:02 <Kevin_Kofler> that wants a reviewer. :-)
15:23:12 <jmarrero> I can take that Kevin_Kofler if you want.
15:23:22 <Kevin_Kofler> jmarrero: Go ahead, thanks!
15:23:29 <rdieter> kernel-3.14.2-200.fc20 landing in stable updates hit users of older intel video hardware with crashiness.  a mesa-10.1.2 update should fix that shortly
15:24:01 <rdieter> (I got smacked with backlight regresions, but seems specific to my older dell d620/d630 latitude models)
15:24:33 <rdieter> and the gcc-4.9.0 miscompiling qt JSC stuff has been fixed upstream, (gcc-4.9.1)
15:25:07 <Kevin_Kofler> Yay! At least the mess is getting fixed, slowly…
15:25:07 <rdieter> in the meantime, the upstream bug suggested compiling with -fno-devirtualize could help (latest rawhide build includes this currently)
15:25:17 <Kevin_Kofler> It sucks when you can't even rely on things like the kernel or GCC. :-(
15:25:56 * rdieter waits for gcc option -fno-omgwtfbbq to materialize someday
15:26:31 * Kevin_Kofler wants -fbug-compatible-with=4.2.0 :-p
15:26:31 <dvratil> it also breaks MariaDB 10 - saw some reports from people not being able to start Akonadi
15:26:42 <rdieter> dvratil: yup
15:30:16 <rdieter> oh, and the qt-cupsEnumDests.patch seems to give some odd results yet, debugged a bit myself with tibbs yesterday, decided to revert that again, and documented some prerequisite testing before we'll consider shipping it again
15:30:25 <rdieter> .bug 980952
15:30:27 <rdieter> gory details ^^
15:30:28 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 980952 RFE: Discover printers shared by CUPS 1.6 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/980952
15:30:44 <rdieter> in the meantime, cups-browsed works better
15:32:23 <rdieter> I think that's all I can think of, will close meeting in another few minutes if theres nothing else to discuss
15:34:21 <tibbs> I'm awake.
15:34:41 <tibbs> Oh, OK.  Sorry, just saw the flashing icon.
15:34:54 <rdieter> tibbs: sorry, just mentioned the qt/cups thing we debugged yesterday
15:35:04 <tibbs> Yeah, what a pain.
15:35:20 <tibbs> I wish I had time to understand it further.
15:36:07 <Kevin_Kofler> Oh, and a plug for anyone living near Vienna, Austria:
15:36:20 <Kevin_Kofler> There's the Vienna Linux Week (Linuxwoche Wien) Thursday-Saturday this week.
15:36:37 <Kevin_Kofler> There are some Fedora talks and workshops.
15:40:00 <rdieter> ok, thanks everyone
15:40:03 <rdieter> #endmeeting