22:44:43 <lbazan> #startmeeting 22:44:43 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 4 22:44:43 2014 UTC. The chair is lbazan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:44:43 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:45:15 <lbazan> #chair yn1v Matias_Arg echevemaster 22:45:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: Matias_Arg echevemaster lbazan yn1v 22:45:53 <yn1v> .fas yn1v 22:45:53 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com> 22:45:58 <delete> .hellomynameis delete 22:45:59 <zodbot> delete: delete 'Matías Kreder' <mkreder@gmail.com> 22:46:04 <ezq> .fas cardinali 22:46:04 <lbazan> #topic roll call 22:46:08 <zodbot> ezq: ezq 'Ezequiel M. Cardinali' <ecardinali@gmail.com> 22:46:09 <lbazan> .fas lbazan 22:46:10 * yn1v Nicaragua 22:46:11 <zodbot> lbazan: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' <bazanluis20@gmail.com> 22:46:15 * lbazan Panamá 22:46:16 <Matias_Arg> .fas matiasmaceira 22:46:16 <zodbot> Matias_Arg: matiasmaceira 'matias maceira' <matiasmaceira@gmail.com> 22:46:20 * echevemaster Venezuela 22:46:22 <geek_cl> .fas lletelier 22:46:22 <zodbot> geek_cl: lletelier 'Larry Letelier' <geek@xofica.cl> 22:46:24 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster 22:46:25 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com> 22:46:35 <echevemaster> estoy como oyente, un poco busy aca. 22:46:35 <Danniel-Lara> .fas danniel 22:46:36 * geek_cl Chile 22:46:38 <zodbot> Danniel-Lara: danniel 'Daniel Lara Souza' <daniellarasouza@yahoo.com.br> - hdanniel 'Hector Paz' <hdanniel@gmail.com> 22:46:45 * delete Argentina 22:47:21 * Danniel-Lara Brasil 22:47:23 <jltodea> .fas jltodea 22:47:23 <zodbot> jltodea: jltodea 'Jose Luis Todea' <jltodea@gmail.com> 22:47:42 <lbazan> Como primer topic quiero tocar la salida de Leonardo Vaz del equipo de embajadores por motivos personales y de tiempo... :( y necesito tocar un ticket del rol de el de mentor, solicita pasarlo a Matias Kredere - delete 22:47:43 * Matias_Arg Argentina 22:47:48 * ezq Argentina 22:48:08 <lbazan> pero necesito de igual manera la aprobación de ustedes si estan de acuerdo o no 22:48:19 <lbazan> puedo arrancar con esto 22:48:19 <lbazan> ? 22:48:32 <echevemaster> +1, necesitamos presencia de mentores en argentina y en el sur 22:48:48 <Matias_Arg> +1 22:49:00 <jltodea> +1 22:49:02 <Matias_Arg> listo 2 a 0 --- estado: aprobado :) 22:49:05 <echevemaster> #topic New Latam ambassador mentor 22:49:09 <Matias_Arg> siguiente tema :) 22:49:10 <geek_cl> +1 22:49:11 <ezq> +1 22:49:14 <lbazan> +1 22:49:27 <geek_cl> Matias hace años hace fuerza en Argentina 22:49:31 <lbazan> geek_cl: ok 22:49:31 <Matias_Arg> 6 a 0 :) 22:49:32 <geek_cl> +1 22:49:37 <delete> +1 (?) 22:49:43 <lbazan> delete: no tu no puedes 22:49:46 <delete> :( 22:49:46 <lbazan> :) 22:49:47 <Matias_Arg> tu no puedes votar por ti mismo :P 22:49:52 <Matias_Arg> jajajajaja 22:49:52 <lbazan> alguien mas 22:49:55 <Matias_Arg> ! 22:49:58 <yn1v> A mi me gustaría saber la opinion de los Embajadores de Brasil 22:50:02 <lbazan> yn1v: ok 22:50:10 <lbazan> algun embajador de brasil que quiera dar su opinión 22:50:40 <yn1v> quienes estan activos como mentores en Portugues? 22:50:51 <lbazan> Danniel-Lara: can you give your opinion about Matias Kreder new Mentor in latam 22:50:53 <Matias_Arg> ! 22:50:54 <lbazan> ? 22:51:15 <lbazan> Matias_Arg: go ahead 22:51:19 <yn1v> Consté que yo estoy a favor, pero quiero que evaluemos otras cosas que van más allá de la persona como tal. 22:51:25 <lbazan> yn1v: ok 22:51:33 <echevemaster> mandenlo a la lista 22:51:41 <echevemaster> y tengan en cuenta estos votos tambien 22:51:43 <echevemaster> es decir 22:51:46 <lbazan> echevemaster: no si ustedes estan de acuerdo debo mandarlo a la lista de mentores 22:51:56 <Matias_Arg> es informal?? o pedimos la palabra? 22:51:59 <lbazan> echevemaster: tenemos quorum 22:52:04 <echevemaster> tenemos quorum 22:52:09 <echevemaster> son 5 votos 22:52:11 <lbazan> Matias_Arg: procede 22:52:12 <echevemaster> los votos est�m 22:52:19 <Matias_Arg> 6 votos conte yo 22:52:24 <yn1v> is Daniel Bruno active as a mentor? 22:52:39 <echevemaster> yes, he is active. 22:52:41 <lbazan> yn1v: yes daniel is active mentor 22:52:47 <Matias_Arg> quiero decir 2 cosas... la primera es que Matias (Delete) esta desde unos meses antes que yo 22:52:56 <lbazan> Matias_Arg: ok 22:52:58 <Matias_Arg> y realmente es bastante mas activo que lo que se puede ver o saber de el 22:53:06 <geek_cl> +1 22:53:08 <echevemaster> eso es cierto. 22:53:09 <lbazan> Matias_Arg: ok 22:53:09 <Matias_Arg> siempre hace muchas cosas 22:53:26 * geek_cl lo conozco personalmente y es asi. 22:53:26 <Matias_Arg> y es bastante organizado y creo que es correcto para este puesto. Además cuenta con el tiempo 22:53:31 <Matias_Arg> necesario para hacer la tarea 22:53:32 <echevemaster> el es como quien dice "la hormiga" que trabaja sin decirle a nadie. 22:53:43 <echevemaster> y eso es lo que interesa, el tiempo... 22:53:43 * delete ;') 22:53:48 <Matias_Arg> y lo otro que quiero saber es quienes mas son mentores activos hoy... 22:53:50 <ezq> +1 22:53:53 <lbazan> #info Matias Kreder(delete) Nominate to take mentor role 22:53:57 <echevemaster> mentores activos.. 22:53:59 <echevemaster> bazan 22:54:04 <Matias_Arg> ese no cuenta 22:54:06 <lbazan> Matias_Arg: de latam 22:54:08 <yn1v> Okey people I am not questioning delete, I am looking at the balance ... between portuguese and spanish mentorship 22:54:10 <echevemaster> daniel bruno 22:54:12 <echevemaster> tatica: 22:54:27 <echevemaster> y un amigo de mexico el cual no recuerdo sunombre 22:54:39 <lbazan> echevemaster: el esta busy por un tiempo 22:54:41 <yn1v> Nushio ... Juan Rodriguez 22:54:44 <Matias_Arg> Nushio.. 22:54:44 <echevemaster> yn1v: you are right, 22:55:05 <yn1v> +1 for delete 22:55:14 <lbazan> ok entonces aprobado 22:55:18 <echevemaster> ok, lbazan manda un correo a la lista de brazil 22:55:25 <echevemaster> tambien es bueno saber su opinion 22:56:11 <Matias_Arg> wolnei :) como estas? 22:56:21 <yn1v> Now we should keep an eye that there is only one Brazilian mentor, so we need to watch over him to avoid burnt out or over load 22:56:27 <wolnei> bien y usted 22:56:30 <lbazan> echevemaster: ya tenemos mentor de brasil 22:56:36 <Matias_Arg> wolnei muy bien :) 22:56:54 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor 22:56:54 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com> 22:56:56 <lbazan> wolnei: puede dar su opinion about matias kreder nominado a mentor de latam 22:56:57 <williamjmorenor> Nicaragua 22:57:13 <wolnei> +1 22:57:23 <lbazan> wolnei: tks 22:57:33 <wolnei> pero tenemos observar se en futuro no precisaremos uno mas a brasil 22:57:46 <lbazan> wolnei: ok podemos nominarlo para la reunion 22:57:54 <restaurador> +1 22:57:54 <echevemaster> eso lo podemos ver en el interin 22:58:04 <echevemaster> y verificar quien puede asumir el papel en brazil 22:58:09 <Matias_Arg> Creo que este tema esta cerrado :) 22:58:21 <lbazan> para la proxima reunion 22:58:22 <Matias_Arg> estoy algo corto de tiempo... :) 22:58:26 <lbazan> podemos nominar a alguien 22:58:28 <yn1v> exactly what I was saying ... we are fine at the moment, but we need to help Bruno if he need it. 22:58:44 <lbazan> wolnei: why need other mentor in brasil? 22:58:50 * echevemaster saliendo brb, 22:59:01 <wolnei> leornado ask me to mentor last year, because had much job 22:59:12 <chinosarg> disculpen la demora! 22:59:20 <geek_cl> ask Bruno 22:59:22 <lbazan> #info matias kreder (delete) approved to nominate to the mentor role 22:59:25 <chinosarg> .fas chinosarg 22:59:25 <zodbot> chinosarg: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <a.soliard@gmail.com> 22:59:38 <lbazan> chinosarg: saludos 22:59:51 <lbazan> tengo que enviar un correo a la lista de mentores 22:59:51 <wolnei> if need, because when Leonard begin mentor we have much new ambassadors 22:59:53 <Matias_Arg> lbazan, cual es el siguiente tema? 23:00:02 <geek_cl> lbazan, do it! 23:00:10 <wolnei> but now 1 person is ok to actual number of request 23:00:14 <wolnei> request 23:00:14 <chinosarg> lbazan: hola! 23:00:20 <wolnei> requests 23:00:22 <restaurador> .fas villadalmine 23:00:22 <zodbot> restaurador: villadalmine 'Rino Rondan' <villadalmine@gmail.com> 23:00:30 <lbazan> wolnei: ok 23:01:01 <lbazan> next topic 23:01:01 <lbazan> ? 23:01:11 <yn1v> lbazan, ask in mentor list if there is the feeling that it is needed another mentor for portuguese speaking people 23:01:20 <lbazan> yn1v: ok 23:01:32 <yn1v> if so, we can go over a new mentor. 23:01:57 <lbazan> yn1v: ok 23:02:21 <yn1v> next topic? 23:02:37 <lbazan> #action lbazan ask in mentor list it is needed another mentor for portuguese speaking people 23:02:41 <lbazan> yn1v: yes 23:02:42 <lbazan> +1 23:03:16 <lbazan> anyone has any topic in particular? 23:03:59 <lbazan> #topic announcement 23:04:05 <wolnei> anyone new will go to Flock of Latam? 23:04:29 <yn1v> I will, I hope !! 23:04:50 <lbazan> yn1v: :o 23:04:56 <lbazan> yn1v: nice! 23:04:58 <wolnei> :D 23:05:10 <yn1v> By the way I have one topic to discuss after we talk about flock 23:05:10 <lbazan> wolnei: and you? 23:05:13 <restaurador> Great 23:05:16 <wolnei> yes 23:05:41 <lbazan> señores tenemos un tema 23:05:43 <lbazan> importante 23:05:53 <Matias_Arg> :D 23:05:56 <yn1v> Johan is goin to flock 23:05:57 <Matias_Arg> lbazan?? 23:06:15 <williamjmorenor> ? 23:06:22 <lbazan> yn1v: un video que circula en internet con alguien firmando autografos como embajador de fedora 23:06:34 <lbazan> :( 23:06:45 * lbazan buscando link 23:06:58 <lbazan> como pongo este topic 23:07:00 <lbazan> ... 23:07:03 <restaurador> Mentiraa 23:07:04 <Matias_Arg> jajajaja 23:07:06 <yn1v> sorry, Yohan Graterol is going to flock 23:07:12 * geek_cl haha 23:07:12 <restaurador> Es famoso? 23:07:38 <lorddemon> buenas, noches... mil disculpas la tardanza 23:07:44 <lbazan> acabo de caer en un troleo muy grande 23:07:45 <lbazan> ..... 23:07:50 <Matias_Arg> jajajajajajajaj 23:07:56 <lbazan> yn1v: :( 23:07:58 <lbazan> hahahaha 23:08:06 <lbazan> #topic openfloor 23:08:07 <Matias_Arg> yn1v tu sabes de que hablo no? 23:08:17 <lbazan> Matias_Arg: algun día me las pagas 23:08:28 <lbazan> alguien tiene algo importante que discutir que no sea Matias_Arg 23:08:30 <Matias_Arg> jajaja tengo un video :) 23:08:44 <restaurador> Yo unas fotos 23:08:45 <yn1v> lvaz who actually is lmvaz is going to flock 23:08:46 <ezq> jajaja, nunca me pidieron un autógrafo :-| 23:09:05 <williamjmorenor> ! 23:09:10 <yn1v> I have something to say .... 23:09:17 <Matias_Arg> a lbazan le pidieron autografo muy especial... 23:09:24 <lbazan> Matias_Arg: :S 23:09:37 <geek_cl> quien está encargado de http://fudconlatam.org/ 23:09:38 <lbazan> lmvaz, yn1v, wolnei go to flock? 23:09:38 <restaurador> Yo casi le pido q me de un autografo a una chica con un tattoo muybparticular 23:09:40 <yn1v> can you please look at: 23:09:48 <yn1v> #link http://fedoracommunity.org/latam 23:09:50 <lbazan> geek_cl: no tengo la menor idea 23:10:02 <lbazan> #info who is the owner of fudconlatam.org 23:10:17 <williamjmorenor> dice Managua 23:10:19 <yn1v> fudconlatam.org => aeperezt 23:10:21 <lbazan> yn1v: you need the access to this pages for FUDCon Managua 23:10:31 <lbazan> yn1v: when start the meetings in fudconplanning 23:10:31 <lbazan> ? 23:10:39 <yn1v> echevemaster and mayorga are already working on that 23:10:39 <lbazan> yn1v: ok 23:10:48 <lbazan> yn1v: ok 23:11:02 <delete> otro tema 23:11:09 <delete> en la lista de correo se estuvo hablando de http://fedoracommunity.org/latam 23:11:27 <delete> pero muchos paises tienen links a proyectofedora.org 23:11:37 <lbazan> #link http://fudconlatam.org/ 23:11:38 <delete> y esta pagina parece no funcionar hace unos dias 23:11:39 <yn1v> finally ... thanks delete 23:11:48 <lbazan> #link http://fedoracommunity.org/latam 23:12:01 <lbazan> yn1v: tell about that please! 23:12:11 <yn1v> fudconlatam.org is a work in progress, give some time 23:12:29 <delete> proyectofedora.org devuelve Site Temporarily Unavailable 23:12:39 <yn1v> lets talk about the community web site 23:12:59 <lbazan> #info proyectofedora.org site temporarily unavailable 23:13:04 <Matias_Arg> ezq hay videos de ese momento pero creo que lo ¿perdi? ( en cuanto cerramos la venta lbazan) 23:13:05 <lbazan> yn1v: go ahead 23:13:05 <geek_cl> yn1v, si, alejandro, tienes razón. 23:13:05 <geek_cl> pero tiene "contenido" de managua 23:13:05 <Matias_Arg> nos vemos en breve.. sigo con algunas cosas pendientes. Hasta mañana. 23:13:05 <yn1v> we need to decide wich mailing list we want to direct people 23:13:06 <Matias_Arg> bye... 23:13:06 <Matias_Arg> sry 23:13:06 <Matias_Arg> debo retirarme. Un abrazo . 23:13:06 <geek_cl> yn1v, do you need help ? 23:13:37 <williamjmorenor> no se suponio que proyectofedora.org se iba a redireccionar a fedoraproject.org/es 23:14:02 <yn1v> geek_cl, mayorga and echevemaster and working on fudconlatam.org ask them if they need help 23:14:50 <yn1v> williamjmorenor, yes, buty it did not happen 23:14:56 <geek_cl> yn1v, one of them are here, so he can read this. 23:15:19 <williamjmorenor> :-/ 23:15:29 <yn1v> okey ... back to my question. 23:15:35 <lbazan> yn1v: ok 23:15:52 <yn1v> http://fedoracommunity.org/latam should point to which mailing lists? 23:16:13 <williamjmorenor> fedora-latam or es-users ? 23:16:17 <yn1v> ambassadors or users ? (both pt-br and es_es) 23:16:28 <lbazan> yn1v: I think to the user list 23:16:57 <yn1v> latam-user mailing list will be deleted as it is a duplicity of es-user 23:17:23 <yn1v> anyone else want to comment on this? 23:17:35 <lbazan> yn1v: create other list for the community web 23:17:36 <lbazan> ? 23:18:14 <yn1v> there is latam-user and es-user ... we don't need two list ... we should focus in only one 23:18:22 <lbazan> ok 23:18:27 <ezq> yn1v: +1 23:18:29 <lbazan> yn1v: +1 23:18:56 <yn1v> at the moment the community web site points only to ambassador-latam list 23:19:11 <rosset> hi guys, I bit late for the meeting 23:19:18 <rosset> .fas filiperosset 23:19:18 <zodbot> rosset: filiperosset 'Filipe Rosset' <rosset.filipe@gmail.com> 23:19:25 <yn1v> which is not bad, but probably not the best, as ambassador mailing list is not a social/support list 23:19:36 <el-viola> Ynlv +1 23:19:46 <williamjmorenor> yes, so we can promote es-users? 23:20:15 <yn1v> yes we should 23:21:00 <yn1v> does anybody think that the community web site problem is too complex? many small decision? 23:21:30 <wolnei> +1 23:21:33 <lbazan> +1 23:21:43 <el-viola> +1 23:22:00 <el-viola> .fas villadalmine 23:22:00 <zodbot> el-viola: villadalmine 'Rino Rondan' <villadalmine@gmail.com> 23:22:02 <yn1v> maybe should I go asking on mailing list item by item 23:22:04 <lbazan> #topic fedora community /latam website 23:22:05 <rosset> +1 23:22:20 <rosset> yn1v, ok, go ahead 23:22:37 <lbazan> #action yn1v ask on the mailing list about fedoracommunity/latam website 23:22:42 <lbazan> :-) 23:22:54 <yn1v> do we want to include the link to the ask web site there... 23:23:03 <yn1v> ? 23:23:15 <williamjmorenor> think yes 23:23:21 <lbazan> yes! 23:23:29 <el-viola> Go go go 23:23:30 <rosset> I believe we need to promote both, latam-users + br-users, and also latam-ambass + br-marketing (will cover both spanish and br portuguese) 23:24:13 <lbazan> yn1v: I think put ES and BR list 23:24:17 <rosset> yn1v, and also 'ask' for both languages, of course :) 23:24:24 <yn1v> pt and es is a given ... but the questions is ... we should promote user list or ambassador list? 23:24:41 <rosset> btw, there are many differences between spanish language in all latam countries? 23:24:45 <rosset> yn1v, both, imo. 23:24:47 <williamjmorenor> +1 for user lists 23:25:00 <yn1v> and if we promote user list, are we really into those lists? 23:25:15 <rosset> there are users interested in, and also contributors (the ambassador is the first point for contributors generally) 23:25:40 <lbazan> ok 23:25:47 <rosset> yn1v, yes... at least all brazilian ambassadors are using br-users also 23:25:58 <yn1v> but the site is intended to public at large not to collaborators 23:26:13 <williamjmorenor> I am in both 23:26:15 <rosset> yn1v, so, only users lists 23:27:25 <yn1v> ... I think we are getting short in time. I will make emails on list, with specific questions one at the time, to keep improving the community web site 23:27:43 <lbazan> #chair yn1v 23:27:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: Matias_Arg echevemaster lbazan yn1v 23:27:44 <el-viola> +1 23:27:54 <yn1v> so does any body else have something else to comment? 23:27:58 <lbazan> #chair williamjmorenor 23:27:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: Matias_Arg echevemaster lbazan williamjmorenor yn1v 23:28:10 <yn1v> open floor? 23:28:21 <lbazan> #topic openfloor! 23:28:32 <lbazan> ok anything else 23:28:34 <lbazan> ? 23:28:57 <williamjmorenor> I will recomend to try cockpiy 23:29:13 <el-viola> And download tuxinfo :) 23:29:21 <williamjmorenor> is cool and there is updates-testing repo 23:29:34 <williamjmorenor> :) +1 with el-viola 23:29:54 <echevemaster> ya llegue de nuevo. 23:30:00 <el-viola> Amigoo 23:30:11 <echevemaster> el-viola: como estas rino 23:30:14 <echevemaster> :) 23:30:29 <williamjmorenor> alguien tiene idea de algun badge que se puede proponer relacionado a latam 23:30:31 <williamjmorenor> ???? 23:30:33 <el-viola> Bien.. te perdiste el video 23:30:40 <el-viola> Mm 23:31:02 <el-viola> Eventos en latam 23:31:04 <rosset> williamjmorenor, maybe for the next fudcon latam? 23:31:33 <el-viola> Fad, fudcon,etc 23:32:10 <williamjmorenor> claro que voy a proponer el badge de Fudcon Managua 23:32:12 <yn1v> #action williamjmorenor will create fudcon managua 2014 badge 23:32:17 <williamjmorenor> vivo en managua :) 23:32:28 <williamjmorenor> yn1v -_- 23:32:29 <lbazan> ok 23:32:32 <geek_cl> muy bien williamjmorenor 23:32:36 <williamjmorenor> pero alguien tiene otro idea? 23:32:43 <rosset> maybe fisl for the next year 23:33:01 <williamjmorenor> ok 23:33:09 <el-viola> Like some internal event 23:33:20 <el-viola> Where fedora is present 23:33:21 <lbazan> señores tiempo de juego 23:33:26 <williamjmorenor> chicos si hay un evento importante con presencia de la comunidad Fedora en latinoamerica 23:33:36 <lbazan> creen que podemos terminar el meeeting? 23:33:38 <williamjmorenor> pasenme el dato y el logo del evento 23:33:41 <lbazan> end meeting? 23:33:43 <el-viola> Ej aca hay varios 23:33:44 <williamjmorenor> para proponer el badge 23:33:50 <rosset> btw I've found a bug in badges, at least for the ask badges, I should report it soon. 23:33:53 <lbazan> seguimos en latam# 23:33:58 <el-viola> Cisl, etc 23:34:02 <echevemaster> Sres. seguimos en latam 23:34:03 <yn1v> +1 end meeting 23:34:07 <echevemaster> #endmeeting