15:06:01 #startmeeting Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-06-27) 15:06:01 Meeting started Fri Jun 27 15:06:01 2014 UTC. The chair is pknirsch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:06:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:06:07 #meetingname Fedora Base Design Working Group 15:06:08 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_base_design_working_group' 15:06:13 okiedokie, ready now 15:06:24 sorry for the delay, but lets get going. 15:06:39 #chair masta haraldh dgilmore 15:06:39 Current chairs: dgilmore haraldh masta pknirsch 15:07:03 Jreznink already mentioned he can't make it today, to lets just get started 15:07:35 #topic Collect and discuss candidates for open positions in WG 15:07:51 howdy 15:07:55 Heya :) 15:08:19 * pknirsch remembers he was supposed to send out an email regarding the open spots 15:08:21 Ugh :/ 15:08:25 totally forgot that. 15:08:29 * pknirsch makes a note 15:09:08 Did any of you have a chance to talk to other people yet that might be interested for the positions yet? 15:10:25 I've mentioned it to one person, but then quickly realized it would be best to formalize things... wait for a memo to be sent to devel 15:10:39 so... just casual chit'chat 15:10:58 mhm 15:11:00 nope 15:11:15 haven't met any in person :) 15:11:42 we have one opening for sure, maybe two. 15:12:19 aye 15:12:58 I've had a chance to talk with a few folks, nothing definitive yet but some interest has been voiced. But let me put together the email and send it after the meeting today so i won't forget 15:14:02 Alright, then lets move on to the next topic 15:14:14 #topic Updated on help for Base WG (pknirsch) 15:16:37 ? 15:16:39 Quick update here: We know have a new person here in our office in STR, Benedikt Morbach. He's an intern from the university in Chemnitz and will be working on the requires/buildrequires work over the next weeks and months. So we should see some first things from him in the next few weeks already. 15:17:03 excellent 15:17:24 And he'll be joining us here on IRC starting next week, so we'll be able to involve him more directly then, too 15:17:41 He's already picking things up really quickly, started doing package reviews on his first day here etc. 15:17:57 wow 15:18:16 that is great 15:18:16 So i'm really happy we got him. So far he's been working mainly as a maintainer for another distribution (source based, derived from Gentoo) and maintains libreoffice there :) 15:18:32 Which means he has some strong distribution work background 15:18:51 While not rpm based, he's worked with Fedora and rpms before 15:19:19 sounds like a solid foundation 15:19:34 And if he has some cycles left i thought we might hook him up with you masta and dgilmore as well to see if he can help with some of the rel-eng stuff, too 15:20:24 pknirsch: ok, we will need to think of some tasks for him. Does he write python by any chance? 15:21:22 He has done some work with python, but he's most proficient in C and bash (using bash scripts to build and maintain libreoffice, imagine that ;))) 15:21:47 well regardless we will think of things, we are supposed to be doing that anyways for attracting new participants to rel-eng 15:21:55 * pknirsch nods 15:22:12 I really like him, he's been asking the right questions and just set off doing stuff :) 15:22:23 (and reading through tons of FPC pages :))) 15:24:32 Depending on some other stuff, we might get another person involved as well, but thats still a bit in the air due to other tasks on that persons plate. 15:24:55 But hopefully that will be complete soonish, so we'll have another one being able to help a lot. 15:25:28 So i'll introduce Benekdikt next week to all of you. 15:26:36 cool 15:27:20 Ok, thats all from that topic from my side 15:27:47 So lets open the floor for other topics 15:27:52 #topic Open floor 15:27:57 anyone got anything else? 15:30:26 so I was working on perl in the kernel, and after talking to the kernel team more... demoralized 15:31:02 I'm not the first to give this a try, and evidently perl is in the kernel deeply, so I'll have to work with upstream to untangle the mess. 15:31:31 probably move on to more low hanging fruit, for now, and keep the perl/kernel thing as a back project longer term 15:31:34 mhm 15:32:04 Is it due to the specfile and scripts used there or really in the kernel source and build process itself? 15:32:14 the later 15:32:30 (not that i'd recommend messing with the specfile a lot either, but that would at least be a tad easier) 15:32:38 oh my 15:32:45 Josh was able to enlighten me on the depth and width of the perl mess. 15:33:10 some kernel facilities use perl as an interface 15:33:21 ftrace for example, and I think one other 15:34:18 don't get me saying untrue things, but it's not as trivial as I had hoped, so won't bother with details that I would probably characterize wrong 15:35:34 that is all from me 15:36:48 Oki 15:36:57 thanks masta 15:37:07 it was certainly worth trying :) 15:38:37 :-/ 15:40:28 Alright, if thats all for today thanks everyone for joining! I'll send out the email after the meeting now that we're looking for 1 new member for the WG at least to os-devel 15:42:05 #action pknirsch Send out note to fedora-devel about looking for new WG member 15:42:36 have a great weekend everyone! Which reminds me, next Friday the US folks very likely won't be around, right? :) 15:46:51 bye bye 15:47:58 #endmeeting