15:00:29 #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting 15:00:29 Meeting started Mon Jul 28 15:00:29 2014 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:33 #meetingname fedora-qa 15:00:33 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:00:36 #topic Roll call 15:00:39 ahoyhoy rolls 15:00:46 you're being called 15:00:55 * mkrizek lurks 15:01:21 * kparal is here 15:01:42 * nirik is lurking around in the back 15:01:46 * satellit listening 15:02:04 nirik: too bad, this week i anticipated you and put the back in the front 15:02:20 dho! no wonder everything looks so up close. 15:02:38 * Southern_Gentlem lurking 15:02:41 * roshi is here 15:04:12 morning morning 15:05:10 alrighty then 15:05:17 #topic Previous meeting follow-up 15:05:48 #info "adamw to ask abrt devs about the journalctl bug seen by Robert Day" - I did dig into it a bit and appended to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043670 , the bug's still outstanding, though 15:06:16 #info "adamw to contact Product WGs and ask them to specify maximum images sizes (in their tech specs or elsewhere) for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Mediakit_ISO_Size to refer to" - whoops, I've completely forgotten that. let's put it back on the list 15:06:22 #action adamw to contact Product WGs and ask them to specify maximum images sizes (in their tech specs or elsewhere) for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Mediakit_ISO_Size to refer to 15:06:35 i think that's all, anything else? 15:06:56 looks like it to me 15:07:38 mooooooooooving on 15:07:50 #topic Fedora 21 status 15:08:05 ah yes, fedora 21 status. 15:08:08 well...not great. 15:08:35 we still don't have an official TC; a dry run for TC2 was built and uploaded but it's pretty incomplete. 15:08:39 nirik: any news there? 15:08:58 not from me. 15:09:14 dgilmore was traveling, he should be back online today I think tho 15:09:21 * satellit testing in VB f21 boot.iso 0726 works 15:09:53 thanks for soldiering on with the nightlies satellit 15:11:03 * satellit looks like f21 KDE live x86_64 works from todays 21.48.1.1 15:11:08 i believe we still have the live image compose issue and the selinux labeling issue outstanding, we should really try and look into those a little harder 15:11:14 nirik: do you know what else is causing compose issues? 15:11:37 I'm not sure. I was out all last week doing datacenter work, so I couldn't follow the doom. 15:12:12 heh. 15:12:21 well, invoking dgilmore doesn't seem to be working 15:12:35 but i guess we really want to make getting a viable TC out as pre-Flock priority # 15:12:36 but i guess we really want to make getting a viable TC out as pre-Flock priority #1 15:12:50 it would be nice to have one, yeah 15:14:57 #info multiple issues (at least SELinux labeling and Workstation image compose fail) still affecting F21 Alpha TC compose. let's try to help get a viable TC built before Flock 15:15:46 I am not needing to use enforcing=0 in 21.481-1 lives and boot.iso 15:16:01 21.48.1-1 * 15:16:09 satellit: the mislabeling of lives seems to be somewhat random; sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. it's not an installer issue 15:16:18 k 15:16:30 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121301 15:17:48 #topic Taskotron deployment 15:18:04 so i believe we're in staging now, but there's a couple of unexpected obstacles for production 15:18:05 ? 15:18:44 I guess so. but resultsdb is not working anywhere at the moment 15:18:52 I'm afraid it's going to have to wait for tflink 15:19:03 we're not yet raptor-proof in that area 15:19:21 reducing the bus factor is one of the higher priorities I think :) 15:19:26 even though mkrizek is trying to learn all that stuff 15:20:03 mkrizek: do you have any details? 15:20:16 nope 15:20:35 always look out for raptors driving buses 15:20:46 those are the worst 15:20:59 they never signal properly 15:23:09 it's those dinosaur arms 15:23:33 #info taskotron is now in staging, but production deployment may take longer than expected, resultsdb is waiting on tflink to return from travelling 15:23:47 the development will slow down considerably now, because tim and josef are on vacation, then flock, then another vacation 15:24:38 goddamnit, no vacations for anyone ever. 15:25:09 anyone aware of any other f21 stuff we should be monitoring / taking care of? 15:25:32 nothing really comes to mind 15:25:54 wish boot.iso for f21 was always available and the dashboard had live for f21 and rawhide 15:26:29 * satellit_e now it only lists live for most recent in koji 15:28:25 satellit: as the whole tree gets re-generated, keeping boot.iso when creating it fails in a given run is apparently hard 15:28:32 satellit_e: on the dashboard can you file a ticket on it? (threebean is out this week) 15:28:41 ok 15:28:57 i actually already asked him and i think he thought he'd already done it 15:29:01 but obviously it's not completely working... 15:29:31 https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedora-releng-dash/issues 15:29:35 but it is not created in http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/21/x86_64/os/ I thin it is turned off 15:29:44 think* 15:29:50 it's not off, it's just failing. ;) 15:29:57 ok 15:30:42 satellit: each night the tree is built. boot.iso compose is attempted as part of that. if the compose fails for whatever reason, that day's tree has no boot.iso, and you have to wait for the next day. 15:31:02 ok understand 15:31:19 there's some weird yum errors... can try and investigate in my copious spare time. ;) 15:31:29 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched-20140728/logs/pungify-x86_64.log 15:31:36 I'm here, but busybusybusy 15:32:06 may be related to signing... ;( I guess I should stop trying to keep up with signing. 15:32:18 nirik: you do that ;) 15:32:45 #topic Flock 15:32:55 so, obviously we have Flock coming up: http://flocktofedora.org/ 15:33:14 amita sharma will be doing a QA presentation there, which I need to review... 15:33:29 roshi: did we get enough budget for you to go? i forget. 15:33:51 I couldn't make those days 15:33:58 oh, right. well, boo. 15:33:59 so never asked for budget :) 15:34:18 we have several folks attending, anyway - me, tflink, kparal, and i'm not sure who else, most of the brno folks? 15:34:28 all of us 15:34:47 yay 15:35:08 we'll obviously take the chance to sync up on f21, with releng and whoever else is there 15:35:22 kparal: who's giving talks? 15:35:56 we don't have any own talks, sorry about that 15:36:28 we're the free riders 15:36:29 ah, well. i'm doing one on UEFI 15:36:30 hehe 15:36:59 I assume we'll help Tim with taskotron workshop 15:37:01 so yeah, i guess the aim will be mostly to try and kickstart f21 and sync up with .next folks to fill out process issues and so on 15:37:08 yup, and taskotron 15:38:14 adamw, oh meeting started 15:38:21 amita: yup, sorry :) 15:38:23 everytime I calculate the wrong time :( 15:38:36 amita: i'll try and look at your presentation this week...otherwise are you ready for flock? 15:38:49 adamw, you are there .. So I am ready 15:39:07 I just need to point the audience to right monkey ;) 15:39:12 adamw, ;) 15:40:42 hehe 15:40:56 well, make sure i'm not too hungover to show up, as well 15:41:05 thanks for volunteering to do the talk 15:41:20 allllrighty...i guess that's it for flock, unless i missed anything? 15:41:26 adamw, hehe your welcome 15:41:40 I want to know who all are coming from QA? 15:41:49 adamw, you and 15:41:57 Sorry, I can't afford it - monetarily or timewise. 15:41:58 amita: see up a bit - me, tflink, and the whole brno office 15:42:15 i don't think many non-RHers unfortunately, a lot of our volunteers are in north america atm and it's a long trek 15:42:28 company won't pay (this year), and my school schedule is too full. 15:42:37 adamw, ah ok 15:43:15 my talk is for a person who wants to contribute in QA and does not know much about it 15:43:41 adamw, I would appreciate if you can review it early this week so that I can incorporate the comments 15:44:05 ah, handsome_pirate will be there, it looks like 15:44:10 amita: will do for sure 15:44:17 adamw, ok 15:44:35 thanks :) 15:45:09 alrighty, moving on 15:45:12 #topic Open floor 15:45:16 any other business, folks? 15:45:23 The fix for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1115120 hit a snag. 15:45:33 i know it kinda sucks that we don't have f21 to test, sorry :( and thanks for hanging on and trying nightlies, satellit and danofsatx etc 15:45:39 * adamw reads 15:45:41 It turns out that the patch that fixes cryptsetup, breaks bluetooth. 15:46:20 yeah, i see that :/ 15:46:48 it is an alpha blocker, so it does need to be fixed one way or another, do remind folks of that if it seems necessarsy 15:47:10 I think Josh is aware of the importance. 15:47:24 cool. 15:47:30 thanks for the heads-up 15:47:45 #info fixing Alpha blocker https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1115120 is turning out to be tricky, but jwb is on it and brunowolff is monitoring 15:52:55 welp, sounds like that's the lot 15:53:05 * adamw lights the quantum fuse 15:53:15 to boom or not boom..... 15:54:07 you know when a quantum fuse finishes because a netsplit happens somewhere on freenode 15:57:20 also, kittens. 15:58:11 wait - kittens *happen* or something happens *to* kittens? 15:58:32 yes. 16:01:28 also yes. 16:04:37 thanks for coming, folks! 16:04:39 #endmeeting