22:34:11 <yn1v> #startmeeting LATAM Ambassadors
22:34:11 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct  8 22:34:11 2014 UTC.  The chair is yn1v. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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22:34:23 <yn1v> #chair wolnei
22:34:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: wolnei yn1v
22:34:39 <ramilton> .fas ramilton
22:34:40 <zodbot> ramilton: ramilton 'Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior' <ramiltoncosta@gmail.com>
22:34:43 <wolnei> .fas wolnei
22:34:44 <zodbot> wolnei: wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' <e@wolnei.com.br>
22:34:46 <yn1v> does anybody wants/needs chair?
22:34:50 <alexove> .fas alexove
22:34:52 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
22:35:01 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
22:35:03 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
22:35:11 * yn1v Nicaragua
22:35:18 <wolnei> Brazil
22:35:34 <yn1v> #chair ramilton
22:35:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: ramilton wolnei yn1v
22:36:06 * alexove = Peru
22:36:13 <yn1v> anybody else for roll call?
22:36:28 <yn1v> porfirio, now it is the time
22:37:51 <yn1v> #info agenda is empty
22:38:08 <alexove> !
22:38:25 <yn1v> go ahead alexove
22:38:32 <alexove> hello world
22:38:34 * porfirio Nicaragua
22:38:39 <porfirio> .fas porfiriopaiz
22:38:40 <zodbot> porfirio: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andres Paiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com>
22:38:54 <porfirio> Boa noite, good evening , Buenas Noches, Good time of the day dear friends
22:38:56 <alexove> The Bolivian people have an event in november in Cochabamba and need help
22:39:13 <alexove> and Bernardo to need help with an event in Lima
22:39:30 <alexove> how many money we have for the activities?
22:39:54 <yn1v> I will check
22:40:05 <yn1v> can you comment when is the event in Lima?
22:40:55 <alexove> The event in Lima is SOFLI-Seoane, an activity that Bernardo organizes, last year many people from fedora talked about many topics
22:41:14 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor
22:41:15 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
22:41:38 <yn1v> we have about $3500 from september to november
22:42:36 <yn1v> we can look to produce some material at Nicaragua so, ambassadors can take to their countries
22:42:37 <alexove> This event is one of the most famous in Lima
22:43:00 <yn1v> specially on the Bolivia case
22:43:00 <wolnei> Without Latinoware expanses already?
22:43:00 <alexove> The Bernardo's event will be confirm the dates the next week
22:43:23 <alexove> Tonet, Aly, Renne and me are near to Bolivia
22:43:29 <yn1v> sorry, my bad
22:43:40 <yn1v> looked the amount requested
22:43:48 <williamjmorenor> do we need to start planing release party for F21 for November?
22:44:00 * williamjmorenor por cierto Nicaragua
22:44:18 <alexove> In Bolivia will be the Nacional Congress of Free Software - Congreso Nacional de Software Libre
22:44:21 <alexove> aka CONASOL
22:44:40 <yn1v> we have 3750 from september to november and we spent about $2400 in latinoware
22:44:55 <alexove> so, I think lorddemon is preparing the details (budget, wiki page, etc)
22:44:59 <yn1v> so, we have 1350 left
22:45:51 <alexove> Ok yn1v I will to inform to Bernardoha and lorddemon
22:45:57 <yn1v> well that was the argument before latinoware, it took a big chunck of money
22:45:58 <alexove> that's all
22:45:59 <alexove> EOF
22:46:08 * williamjmorenor $ 2400 for a single event :o
22:46:16 <yn1v> but in the other hand tehre was several activitied proposed that were not implemented
22:46:41 <alexove> williamjmorenor: Latinoware is not a single event.... is the EVENT
22:47:08 <ramilton> ainda foi tirado 1k
22:47:16 <yn1v> tell berardo to make his ticket request
22:47:54 <yn1v> #action alexove will tell bernardo to open ticket for his event
22:47:59 <williamjmorenor> ok, I am going to open a ticket for latinoware for next year
22:48:14 <wolnei> yes, for we have a better vision of what is needed
22:48:31 <yn1v> I want to read the blogs from those attending to latinoware
22:48:57 <yn1v> I have mixed feeling about latinoware
22:49:06 <wolnei> me too
22:49:21 <yn1v> how is the saying? we are preaching to the choir
22:49:28 <williamjmorenor> +1
22:49:45 <williamjmorenor> I remember a "yum install freedom"
22:49:47 <williamjmorenor> :)
22:49:56 <ramilton> http://www.sempreupdate.com.br/2014/10/o-fedora-estara-no-latinoware-2014.html
22:49:59 <ramilton> acesse todos ai
22:50:09 <yn1v> we spent a lot of money to be in an event where everybody is already using freesoftware
22:50:15 <ramilton> uma materia que eu fiz para divulgar a participação do fedora no latinoware
22:50:34 <yn1v> what we gain form it?
22:51:06 <yn1v> probably will be better spent that amount making a FAD with some concrete measurable results
22:51:36 <yn1v> but I am not against latinoware. As I said, I have mixed feelings
22:51:48 <williamjmorenor> I am not goint to say than it is not a important even, but it is de 70% of budget
22:52:20 <wolnei> I had the same feeling, but we need to tray gain more developers in events like this
22:52:32 <williamjmorenor> agree
22:53:25 <ramilton> Foi eventos assim que eu me interessei em usar o fedora, como muitos outros se interessa
22:53:39 <williamjmorenor> it is ok, but we can count how many collaborators we had from events like this one?
22:53:39 <alexove> ramilton: +1
22:54:00 <williamjmorenor> i could be nice to have a list o people coming to Fedora in event like this one
22:54:18 <wolnei> I am from FISL
22:54:39 <ramilton> E a culpa toda foi do valentim. não sei se ele esta presente agora. rssss
22:55:14 <yn1v> o que aconteceu con o valentin?
22:55:25 <wolnei> Its a begin from some people, but is repeation for others
22:55:37 <ramilton> ele que me incentivou a entrar para a comunidade a usar o fedora
22:55:54 <williamjmorenor> ok
22:55:58 <yn1v> ah! Valentin is a rockstar
22:56:11 <wolnei> Good question, his country situation is very difficult
22:56:22 <ramilton> E hoje defendo o fedora até na alma.
22:57:01 <wolnei> I don't heard about him about some months
22:58:09 <ramilton> também não wolnei
22:58:26 <yn1v> valentin is in brazil and he will come to FUDCon
22:58:48 <wolnei> Great
22:59:03 <ramilton> ha.. ele tinha me dito mesmo. Esqueci.
22:59:53 <yn1v> anyway, this year was a congress for english translators in Managua. We find out the day before it started
23:00:17 <williamjmorenor> we hope to get a wolnei or a ramilton from Fudcon Managua :), we have 7 ambassador and only one packager
23:00:18 <yn1v> that was a missed oportunity to show people some tools to do their work
23:00:55 <wolnei> You will gain :)
23:01:06 <ramilton> +1 williamjmorenor
23:01:19 <williamjmorenor> do yo mean Zanata? Transifex is propetary now :(
23:01:22 <ramilton> :)
23:02:20 <alexove> yn1v: The next quarter begins in december?
23:02:24 <yn1v> transifex/zanata is not the only tool that a translator may need
23:02:36 <yn1v> yes alexove
23:03:19 <williamjmorenor> poedit?
23:03:36 <yn1v> And if you look a fudcon, it is a shame. We only have ambassadors that somehow happens to be active in other group
23:05:11 <yn1v> williamjmorenor, git, latex, publican pdf convertion, pdf merge ... if you work translating documents you need a lot of tools beyond actually translating
23:05:27 <delete> .hellomynameis delete
23:05:29 <zodbot> delete: delete 'Matías Kreder' <mkreder@gmail.com>
23:06:20 <wolnei> Jared will not go?
23:06:49 <williamjmorenor> latex and publican? do you want to translate the text or make the work ready to printing?
23:07:24 <yn1v> jsmith, has not confirmed
23:07:57 <wolnei> He made a great document hackfest on Flock
23:08:03 <yn1v> he really wants to come, but works has keeping him away for making the trip
23:09:31 <wolnei> it is a pity
23:12:20 <yn1v> so, we have to talk with lorddemon about his event and what he will need ...
23:12:56 <yn1v> #action yn1v contact lorddemon for details about event. explore materials he can take from Nicaragua.
23:13:06 <yn1v> any other topic?
23:13:15 <alexove> He is preparing his wiki page then the tickets
23:13:56 <yn1v> yes, but as producing things take time, better to know in advance
23:14:33 <alexove> I will to talk with him
23:14:41 <wolnei> More time more quality
23:14:45 <alexove> this week or via Tonet to tell about the time
23:15:43 <yn1v> for instance, I have enough stickers for FUDCon, but if he need I can produce more
23:16:18 <yn1v> give to him, to people from panama, argentina and venezuela
23:17:00 <yn1v> but not sure if I can deal with that in fudcon week
23:17:53 <yn1v> Welcome echevemaster
23:17:54 <echevemaster> already finished the meeting?
23:18:08 <yn1v> no, we were waiting for you
23:18:09 <echevemaster> yn1v: sorry, I couln't arrive before
23:18:24 <echevemaster> yn1v: o_O
23:18:26 <alexove> lorddemon will be in FUDCon, you can give the stickers and more things
23:18:55 <echevemaster> the next week will be normal, So i promise chairing.
23:19:03 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
23:19:05 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
23:19:07 <yn1v> That's the point, I only have for FUDCon... if that will be the case, I need to order more stickers now
23:19:08 * echevemaster venezuela
23:19:32 <echevemaster> yn1v: do you need material in fudcon?
23:19:41 <yn1v> no
23:20:23 <echevemaster> oh ok. what is the point of the last topic, anyone wants say me?
23:20:23 <yn1v> but if we think about producing something, so every body can take part to their home country ... now is the time to call for it
23:21:56 <yn1v> #info if people want to porduce materials to have it at fudcon to take back home, create a ticket and the others to comment on the same ticket
23:22:06 <yn1v> any other issue? comments?
23:22:22 <echevemaster> I'll do, yn1v
23:23:01 <yn1v> awesome
23:23:41 <echevemaster> no, from me.
23:24:06 <yn1v> whel this meeting will end in two minutes
23:24:23 <yn1v> s/ whel /well
23:24:47 <echevemaster> will.
23:24:53 <echevemaster> ok...
23:27:25 <yn1v> #endmeeting