17:02:36 #startmeeting Board (2014-10-27) 17:02:36 Meeting started Mon Oct 27 17:02:36 2014 UTC. The chair is mattdm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:02:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:02:42 #meetingname board 17:02:42 The meeting name has been set to 'board' 17:03:03 #chair mattdm jwb 17:03:03 Current chairs: jwb mattdm 17:03:10 #topic hello 17:03:17 hi! who is here besides jwb? :) 17:03:28 * inode0 waves 17:03:33 Hai 17:03:57 #chair inode0 gholms 17:03:57 Current chairs: gholms inode0 jwb mattdm 17:04:24 okay, so, four.... 17:04:35 Several people sent regrets on the list 17:04:57 they did? 17:05:35 jwb well, neville 17:05:42 and number80 on the irc channel i guess. 17:05:54 ok. just making sure my email is working properly 17:06:00 I had suggested topics of: 17:06:10 status of council rep selection 17:06:17 famsco->fosco idea 17:06:27 anything else anyone has? 17:06:48 f21 beta construction is still ongoing, so if we don't have a lot to say, that's just fine 17:07:13 None from me 17:07:41 okay then :) 17:07:51 #topic Fedora Council Representative Selection 17:08:05 So, jwb is the Engineering Representative 17:08:15 congratulations josh, again :) 17:08:30 thanks :) 17:08:59 inode0: I wasn't quite clear on the state of the outreach rep from christoph's update in the ticket... do you know more? 17:09:26 no, I figured one of the two famsco members on the board would fill us in 17:10:17 inode0: looks like neither of them are here. okay then 17:10:40 I will check in with christoph and neville -- I already posted to the ticket 17:11:02 It looks like famsco is happy with christoph as selection but wanted nominees from other groups as well 17:11:07 last I heard famsco seemed to have chosen cwickert but were waiting for nominations from other areas 17:11:15 I'll get clarification on timeline for final decision 17:11:26 oh 17:11:38 * cwickert is sorry for being late 17:11:40 cwickert: oh hi! 17:11:49 #chair cwickert 17:11:49 Current chairs: cwickert gholms inode0 jwb mattdm 17:11:56 just had daylight shift, was expecting the meeting in an hour 17:12:01 cwickert did you see the above? 17:12:08 * cwickert reads the backlog 17:12:40 (does the board usually shift the meeting with daylight shift or stay constant on utc?) 17:12:41 ok 17:12:53 * number80 around 17:12:58 so the question is not what FAmSco wants but what you want, mattdm 17:12:59 we don't usually shift unless there is a problem 17:13:14 or maybe we do shift actually 17:13:19 cwickert: okay :) 17:13:21 you asked us for an outreach representative, and there currently is no outreach body 17:13:40 FAmSco likes the idea, but it's not going to happen soon 17:14:04 because there are plenty of questions to sort out, e.g. who is allowed to vote for what etc 17:14:06 Yeah, I saw that. I also saw Tuan's messages to a few of the other groups -- I don't think any of them got much response. 17:14:16 I don't think so either 17:14:33 but I was not present in the meeting where Tuan suggested getting in contact with the other groups first 17:14:58 as the ambassadors are the biggest group and we have no better alternative we should just with FAmSCo for now 17:15:12 I think famsco should proceed and select someone to represent all of outreach 17:15:20 yes 17:15:25 means the first outreach representative would be somebody from FAmSCo, we can still change it later 17:15:29 cwickert: that seems okay with me as long as the chosen person is understood to reprsent the whole thing 17:15:41 no, it can be anyone famsco chooses who will do it 17:15:53 +1 inode0 17:16:13 although presuming no other nominations cwickert _is_ chosen 17:16:29 even if I try to represent everybody, FAmSCo cannot really "choose" and one to represent them all 17:16:48 they can choose someone who will try 17:16:57 but I read both design-team and marketing mailing lists, so I think I have a good overview of what is going on 17:17:34 cwickert: I'm *confident* that you're the right person for that 17:17:43 challenge 17:17:56 can we ask FAmSCo to come to a decision next meeting so we can proceed to schedule the elections now? 17:17:57 thank you for trusting me, number80 :) 17:18:09 inode0: this was already decided 17:18:23 cwickert: the schedule? 17:18:28 oh, I thought you were waiting to hear from other areas. 17:18:46 good, we can move on to the elections then 17:18:53 inode0: ok, that's probably better 17:19:14 suggestion: I will reach out to both groups once again as I am the one who is supposed to represent them 17:19:28 I hope they will scream out loud if they disagree 17:19:31 cwickert: okay :) 17:19:56 so it sounds like we should go ahead with scheduling the election.... 17:19:59 mattdm: we did not decide on a schedule yet, we only said that for now we would continue with regular FAmSCo elections 17:20:24 F21 is around the corner, it is too late to make a transition from FAmSCo to FOSCo 17:20:33 cwickert Yep I meant a schedule for final confirmation of outreach rep, not the whole fosco thing. 17:20:42 I see 17:21:20 FAmSCo meets tomorrow, we can confirm, but I would like to give the other groups a week to speak up 17:21:27 a week sounds good. 17:21:55 we can also schedule the election nominations to open a week from tomorrow. 17:22:04 I will talk to jreznik about doing that. 17:22:11 please do and let me know 17:22:14 #action mattdm to talk to jreznik re scheduling election 17:22:26 okay, anything more on this? 17:22:52 #topic famsco/fosco 17:23:05 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/373 17:23:14 #info visible to anyone logged in with a fas account 17:23:27 I sent messages about this to a bunch of groups this morning 17:23:48 I agree with cwickert that it's not a small change and isn't an overnight process 17:24:06 but I figured might as well get started on getting people's input 17:24:26 ambassadors seemed to generally like the idea but if no one else does it doesn't help much 17:24:46 I think marketing likes it from what I've heard too 17:25:10 inode0 *nod* yeah I think so too 17:25:19 so at least ambassadors + marketing is a powerful start 17:25:29 * cwickert would lover to see marketing and ambassadors work together way closer 17:26:14 I'd also like to see the WGs help make training materials about their products for the ambassadors 17:26:20 and that would fall under this, I think 17:26:27 good idea 17:26:59 Anyone else have anything on this overall idea? 17:27:06 Ooh, there's an idea. 17:27:18 gholms mine, or another one? :) 17:27:25 Yours 17:27:27 :) 17:27:40 The training material bit, specifically 17:27:49 thanks. 17:27:58 * number80 pyconfr are kicking us out of the sprint rooms so afk 17:28:02 I'm not really involved with outreach, so I'm mostly going to defer to those of you who are. 17:28:41 It seems like a good idea to me, for what little that's worth, though. 17:28:45 gholms: cool. 17:28:54 any more comments on this general idea? 17:29:39 okay :) 17:29:44 #topic open floor 17:30:27 if no one has anything, going to close the meeting 17:30:36 Anyone out there have questions or comments for the board? 17:31:01 ...or tomatoes? :) 17:31:15 it is one of your last remaining chances to throw eggs or tomatoes 17:31:15 fedora-themed halloween costume ideas? 17:31:23 bacon 17:31:43 back to the election for a moment 17:31:48 inode0: k 17:31:56 Is anyone using the penguin costume? 17:32:00 general schedule as you envision it now please? 17:32:41 like 1 week for noimations, 1 week for interviews, 1 week for voting or whatever 17:32:50 inode0: yes pretty much exactly that 17:33:14 as per above, nominations opening next tuesday 17:33:34 and I'll try to promote it as much as possible between then 17:33:39 and look for good candidates 17:33:59 yeah, encouraging people early is important because their role is new 17:34:19 hopefully more people will be interested 17:34:27 inode0 yes, very hopefully 17:34:29 but we need to get them thinking about it 17:34:29 next tuesday as in tomorrow ? or Nov 4? 17:34:37 Southern_Gentlem nov 4th 17:34:42 hmmm election day here in the us 17:34:58 I will try to keep from those getting conflated :) 17:34:59 doesn't matter IMO 17:35:32 inode0: we'd agreed previously to keep it to after the outreach rep was finalized 17:35:59 hmm does thanksgiving cause trouble here? 17:36:14 yes, beginning to take nominations on the 4th is fine as we'll have the outreach rep on the 4th too 17:36:53 voting would end before thanksgiving but during that week 17:36:58 again fine IMO 17:37:09 inode0: yeah. looks good. I'll put this in the ticket 17:37:15 https://fedorahosted.org/board/ticket/14 17:37:57 anything else, anyone? 17:38:18 * cwickert is fine 17:38:33 okay! ending meeting in 1 minute. 17:38:36 thanks everyone! 17:38:59 * inode0 waves bye 17:39:11 Thanks, everyone! 17:39:18 goodbye! 17:39:22 and thanks! 17:39:24 #endmeeting