14:01:56 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 14:01:56 Meeting started Mon Dec 1 14:01:56 2014 UTC. The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:56 #meetingname Fedora Docs 14:01:56 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs' 14:01:56 #topic Roll Call 14:02:21 * pbokoc 14:02:48 * sclark is here 14:03:12 hey sclark, glad you could make it 14:04:00 It's nice to be able to be here. 14:05:49 #chair sclark 14:05:49 Current chairs: randomuser sclark 14:06:22 #topic Follow up on last week's action items 14:07:27 three action items volunteered for; I was going to talk about media types in the RNs and IG, talk about fedora-release packages, in RNs, and forward an email 14:07:51 I need to do better with the media types one, but the others are done. 14:08:07 #action randomuser to update RNs, IG with media type guidance 14:09:05 #topic Publican/Publishing 14:09:35 I spend a few hours reading buildbot sources, but otherwise nothing to report 14:10:15 we're going into f21 with the existing platform, obviously 14:11:10 Does that mean you still need to use an old version of Publican to publish? 14:11:51 sclark, it does, but I made a copr with that version of publican that can be installed in parallel and should work 14:12:02 http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/immanetize/publican2/ 14:12:16 randomuser, did you get around to testing it yet, btw? :) 14:12:48 eh... no, I didn't, sadly 14:13:30 any other questions and concerns in this area? 14:14:42 #topic Guide Status 14:14:54 I have nothing to report here - anyone else? 14:15:44 I'm making a start on the firewall guide. 14:15:45 yeah, me neither. Still need the intro section for the IG, but you mentioned that already 14:16:27 sclark, awesome! 14:17:16 randomuser: I'm reading through the logs of the Office Hours sessions and working out what needs to go in. 14:17:41 sclark, that repo is awfully bare - should we set aside some time to talk strategy, or would you prefer to just take a run at it? 14:18:33 randomuser: I wouold like to get my head around what is already out there but then it would be good to talk about it. 14:19:18 sclark, okay, speak up whenever then. 14:19:33 randomuser: Will do. Thanks. 14:21:02 Okay, looks like we're tapped out on guides 14:21:26 #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 14:21:58 #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 14:22:35 so, we have bugs 14:22:57 #info bugzilla tickets are a place you can find things to do 14:23:59 enough! nobody likes bugs. 14:24:06 #topic Open Floor Discussion 14:25:04 GM 14:25:23 Morning, Sparks_too 14:25:59 I see that the old/duplicate version of the Defensive Coding guidelines were recently depublished. 14:26:29 This is good (thanks), but there are no redirects to the current version. Can such redirects be added? 14:27:12 fweimer, sure, what kind of redirects would you like? 14:29:19 randomuser: docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Security_Team/html/Defensive_Coding/ to docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Security_Team/1/html/Defensive_Coding/ 14:29:25 (I think.) 14:29:51 not docs.fp.o/defensive-coding to $long-url ? 14:32:42 randomuser: No, we have incoming links for the old URL. 14:33:44 fweimer, ah, ok 14:35:04 #action randomuser to provide redirect for defensive coding guide 14:35:14 Anything else for today? 14:35:54 hey folks. I missed the newbie intro section 14:36:13 But I'm new :-) 14:36:18 (Sandra McCann 14:36:23 oh, my mistake, smccann - I skipped that topic 14:36:28 welcome! 14:36:33 hey, welcome :) 14:36:42 no worries. I was late. Nothing says stellar start like showing up late. 14:37:12 Anyway, if there's pointer to where a rank beginner can start helping you out, let me know 14:37:43 smccann, have you read over any wiki pages or the documentation guide yet? 14:38:05 Bits here and there. I'm also a fedora newbie so I've been haunting QA for the quick install tests etc 14:38:16 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Docs_Project_checklist is a start 14:38:22 my background is techwriting 14:38:31 thanks pbokoc! 14:38:52 smccann, do you have any experience with version control (we use Git) and DocBook? 14:39:12 version control yes, Git and DocBook no. 14:39:45 but if there's directions somewhere, I can play and come back to the doc channel w/ questions 14:39:50 there's a github tutorial on git that's decent 14:40:13 cool, thanks! 14:40:33 yeah, the tutorial is here: https://try.github.io/levels/1/challenges/1 14:40:47 got it thanks! 14:40:56 smccann, I suggest you clone https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit//docs/documentation-guide.git , build it, read through, and ask questions when they arise 14:41:09 smccann, the tutorial is very... practical, so you might want to start with some theory first and read http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2 14:41:13 ok sounds like a good start 14:41:13 also an excellent resource 14:41:17 if you find places that need to change, then change them 14:41:27 ok 14:42:13 and there are usually people in #fedora-docs or the list if you have questions 14:42:26 for DocBook, there's this reference: http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html 14:42:51 don't be intimidated, there's a few hundred elements but typically you won't use more than 2 dozen 14:43:40 sounds like a great set of options to start out. Thanks folks! 14:43:43 also, when you clone a book from git.fedorahosted.org, use the "https://" address, not the ssh one 14:43:56 you need access rights for the latter 14:45:20 smccann: There was also an introduction to documentation with publican talk at the recent Flock Conference. The video is on YouTube http://youtu.be/4eDs74AbLnw?list=UUQIXiF6fxPCtHw_XwHFq6nA 14:45:53 thanks sclark 14:47:10 okay, let's adjourn to #fedora-docs 14:47:19 thanks for coming, everyone 14:47:23 #endmeeting