17:00:19 #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-12-11) 17:00:19 Meeting started Thu Dec 11 17:00:19 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:20 #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:20 #topic init process 17:00:58 * EvilBob 17:01:12 * nirik will wait a few for folks to wander in. 17:01:14 morning EvilBob 17:01:19 * randomuser bums around 17:01:37 * nirik waves to randomuser 17:01:57 morning 17:02:02 I'll be back in 5, something just came up with my Son's online school. I have nothing for the open floor. 17:02:43 k 17:04:15 #topic Weeks in review 17:04:32 Anyone have anything to note from the last few weeks? Common bugs or issues? 17:04:39 Seems like release day went pretty well. 17:04:57 nothing really unexpected - normal upgrade concerns 17:05:04 yeah. 17:05:51 There was a dhcp issue I saw several folks hit... seems to be: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1154200 17:06:13 (dhcp in f21 doesn't use the same identifier, so if you have things locked to the identifer it won't get an ip) 17:06:54 interesting - I saw a similar bug but it was closed by the reporter for unspecified site-specific stuff 17:07:37 also, there were some questions around the old install dvd, thats no longer around. adamw wrote up a post on that: https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/12/10/fedora-21-greatest-hits-non-server-non-live-installs-fedup-product-behaviour/ 17:08:01 nice 17:08:16 all the rest of stuff I've seen is pretty standard... 17:08:56 orionp has some instantmirror thing that transparently grabs from a remote repo; I've been thinking of reading up on it and maybe promoting it for folks that want dvd repo style deployments 17:09:02 I guess it's time to move to CentOS until they do away with the DVD there also... 17:09:03 The no more install dvd got me. I was looking for it but couldn't find it. 17:09:34 randomuser: there was another one listed in that thread too... haven't looked at it tho 17:09:46 http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/2534.html 17:10:02 nirik: the fedup stuff in my blog i think may come up too 17:10:19 nirik: especially look out for that firewall-on-upgrade issue i edited into the post a bit later 17:10:29 yeah. is that on the fedup page too? I've mostly been pointing people to the fedup wiki page 17:10:47 maybe not, yet, i'll check and add it if so 17:11:27 oh, also, if you get people with lots of ext4 partitions saying the installer's stuck early on, that may be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170803 , it's nominated for commonbugs but i didn't write it up yet 17:12:10 cmurph wrote that up - I'm a bit confused why he didn't put it in commonbugs yet 17:13:06 didn't want to mess with arcane wiki syntax? ;) 17:14:18 anyhow. anything else off hand to note? 17:14:38 #topic Open Floor 17:14:39 nirik: hey, i made commonbugs easier this cycle. templates! lovely templates! 17:14:50 no tickets, so anything for open floor? 17:15:02 most likely we won't meet again until jan... since holidays are coming up. 17:15:06 also a page with nice formatted instructions at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_bugs_instructions , instead of instructions in the wikitext, which...i don't know why I didn't think of that before. 17:15:10 adamw: you and your templates! 17:15:17 so, yeah, no excuses not to add stuff to the commonbugs as it comes up, folks. ;) 17:15:29 anecdotally, I'm a bit disappointed that so many people seem to think that 'developer focus' means they are excluded, and won't be able to facebook or look at kitten pictures with Fedora anymore 17:15:34 morning 17:15:52 randomuser: thats a weird/hard message to get accross I guess. 17:15:55 morning Sonar_Gal 17:16:11 developers love kittens too. 17:16:15 "we are focusing on developers" "I'm not a developer, so it must be completely useless to me" 17:16:52 it quickly turns into more of a critique on society's marketing-driven behavior, so meh 17:16:53 adamw: some of them perhaps. 17:17:24 * nirik isn't in marketing. Use what you like and meets your needs. You almost always have to try things to know, no marketing copy will always be right 17:17:31 indeed 17:20:00 so, I guess next meeting for jan 8th? Anyone have anything else before we close? 17:20:21 Merry Christmas! 17:20:27 Nope that works for me 17:20:30 also happy new year! ;) 17:21:28 thanks for coming everyone. 17:21:30 #endmeeting