15:00:31 <pknirsch> #startmeeting Fedora Base Design Working Group (2015-01-16) 15:00:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 16 15:00:31 2015 UTC. The chair is pknirsch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:31 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:44 <pknirsch> #meetingname Fedora Base Design Working Group 15:00:44 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_base_design_working_group' 15:00:54 <pknirsch> #chair haraldh msekleta dgilmore masta jreznik_2nd 15:00:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: dgilmore haraldh jreznik_2nd masta msekleta pknirsch 15:01:10 <pknirsch> good morning/afternoon/night everyone and welcome to a new year! 15:01:15 <haraldh> moin 15:01:41 <msekleta> hi everyone 15:01:43 * jreznik_2nd is here (and watching beginning of design FAD) 15:02:01 <vpavlin> hi 15:02:11 <pknirsch> oki, lets move right into our topics for today: 15:02:35 <pknirsch> #topic Status buildrequires cleanup work (davids & nils!) 15:02:50 <pknirsch> so nphilipp, any news over the new year? 15:03:56 <nphilipp> pknirsch: not much unfortunately -- I'm still struggling with getting mock going on the p7plus machine karsten lent me. I suspect it's some secondary arch issue but my experience with these is not much :( 15:04:43 <pknirsch> hm, odd, i've had it working last year without many issues 15:04:58 <pknirsch> we can hook up next week about it, i can take a look at it 15:05:23 <nphilipp> cool thanks 15:05:31 <pknirsch> np :) 15:05:42 <pknirsch> ok, lets move on then. 15:05:59 <pknirsch> #topic Docker update 15:06:18 <pknirsch> just wanted to see if vpavlin, msekleta or anyone else had any news yet 15:06:40 <vpavlin> Hey, I wanted to do some changes in the base image but I somehow "lost" the permissions to commit to spin-kickstarts.git:/ 15:06:48 <pknirsch> ugh 15:07:11 <vpavlin> I've sent email to dgilmore but without any response so far 15:07:19 <pknirsch> :( 15:08:50 <pknirsch> I think to recall there were also a few patches pending for upstream, right? Any news on those yet? 15:09:02 <msekleta> in docker land there has been some progress on infamous /run-on-tmpfs patch 15:09:06 <pknirsch> ah 15:09:08 <pknirsch> :) 15:10:25 <pknirsch> so whats the news there msekleta ? 15:10:51 <msekleta> docker people requested some docs changes and there is related pull request open for libcontainer which will allow to populate /run with contents on /run included in image if tmpfs is mounted over 15:12:03 <pknirsch> ok, nice! that sounds like we're getting there slowly 15:12:22 <haraldh> creeping 15:12:46 <pknirsch> :) 15:13:58 <pknirsch> alright, anything else vpavlin or msekleta for Docker? 15:14:09 <msekleta> so that is all for now, on my side 15:14:21 * pknirsch knows it's been a long PTO over christmas 15:14:28 <vpavlin> Nothink else from me either 15:14:32 <pknirsch> alrighty 15:14:41 <pknirsch> next up 15:14:47 <pknirsch> #topic Status rpm mechanisms for multiple config subpackages & factory reset files 15:15:01 <pknirsch> If i recall haraldh and/or ffesti wanted to take a look at the patches there, right? 15:15:31 <msekleta> I got some email from ffesti, too. Not sure if he sent the same thing to haraldh. 15:16:49 <haraldh> hmm, thinking about it, it's not a clean solution 15:17:55 <pknirsch> maybe that would be a good topic to talk with ffesti about in person at DevConf then and work on a final plan? 15:18:04 <haraldh> yep 15:18:04 <pknirsch> (and agree upon ;)) 15:18:16 * msekleta nods 15:18:35 <msekleta> btw I started to work on PoC rpm plugin for factory reset 15:18:44 <pknirsch> oh, nice! 15:19:25 <haraldh> msekleta, :) 15:19:55 <pknirsch> ok, so that takes us nicely over to the next 2 topics i think: 15:20:02 <pknirsch> #topic F22 and DevConf 15:20:16 <msekleta> however we had a brainstorming about the approach with lnykryn and we already found out couple problems 15:20:34 <pknirsch> lets combine those as i suspect many if not all of us will be there, so we should take the chance to sit together and work out whats on the plan for F22 15:20:37 <Corey84> .fas Corey84 15:20:38 <zodbot> Corey84: corey84 'Corey84' <sheldon.corey@gmail.com> 15:20:43 <Corey84> sorry im late 15:21:24 <msekleta> I agree we should talk about those issues during devconf 15:22:20 <pknirsch> We'll probably have to wing this a bit there then though as Radek already mentioned it's going to be packed, so we might struggle a bit for a room then, but i'm sure we'll find some way to do that 15:23:34 <Corey84> someone is gonna be in a hotel no? use a conference room off site if needed 15:24:52 <pknirsch> Alright, so what are the other important items for F22 we have? Ownership of the base image, but we already do that, so i suspect no specific base ownership additional work, though maybe the other WGs might have requests (but haven't seen any) 15:24:55 <pknirsch> good point Corey84 15:24:59 <pknirsch> and good idea 15:25:16 <Corey84> I used to valet for hotels its natural 15:25:19 <Corey84> :) 15:25:24 <pknirsch> hehe :) 15:25:53 <Corey84> refresh my memory where is it this year ( too many mtgs last 48 hours brain is mush( 15:26:19 <pknirsch> :) 15:26:29 <vpavlin> We are trying to figure out more specific definition of Rings in Env&Stacks..Ring0 would probably be defined by Base WG as a minimal installable system 15:27:08 <vpavlin> But there will definitely be an official request when we come to some conclusion.. 15:27:45 <pknirsch> mhm, good point vpavlin 15:28:14 <pknirsch> Env&Stacks will most likely have a workshop at DevConf i think? Maybe we can have a discussion with them there then. 15:28:23 <vpavlin> pknirsch: yes 15:28:33 <pknirsch> Corey84: DevConf will be in Brno as usual, but i think the place changed this year. 15:28:41 <pknirsch> (different university) 15:29:34 <Corey84> thats what i couldnt remember as I know several hotel chain CEOs was thinking maybe a special request for some space 15:30:47 <haraldh> IIRC, the university has some tables and seats in the hall 15:31:01 <pknirsch> yea. it's the Avanti again, right haraldh ? 15:31:05 <haraldh> so, it might be possible to just meet outside in the hall 15:31:25 <haraldh> pknirsch, I am in the Avanti.. yes.. but it is full now 15:31:39 <haraldh> I was talking about the "Fakulta informačních technologií" 15:31:54 <pknirsch> yea, i now remember Radek's email about it being booked completely already 15:31:58 <pknirsch> ah ye 15:32:51 <haraldh> msekleta, should know it well :) 15:32:58 <pknirsch> hehe 15:33:01 <haraldh> s/,// 15:33:17 <msekleta> yep :) 15:33:56 <haraldh> ofc, I don't know which building we have 15:34:17 <haraldh> at least the building the gnome conf was had some tables 15:34:34 <pknirsch> Ok, other items for F22? I know the reproducible build/br reduction will be rawhide material anyway and ongoing, so i din't think we need to add that as a deliverable for f22 15:35:41 <pknirsch> anything Docker related that would need work/additional changes for us here? Any items from the server/workstation/cloud wg anyone is aware of? 15:36:14 <dgilmore> vpavlin: what email? 15:36:37 <dgilmore> vpavlin: when and where? 15:36:53 <dgilmore> sorry i am late had to go to the doctors something is wrong with my eye 15:36:53 <Corey84> fine on server side here 15:36:57 <vpavlin> dgilmore: $SUBJ=Cannot commit to spin-kickstarts 15:37:10 <vpavlin> dgilmore: Jan 14 15:37:16 <pknirsch> Corey84: thanks! 15:37:19 <dgilmore> vpavlin: I jhave not changed anythinga dn I am not the gatekeeper there 15:37:35 <vpavlin> dgilmore: Ok, could you point me to anybody? 15:39:05 <dgilmore> vpavlin: are you in the right group in fas? 15:39:30 <vpavlin> dgilmore: let's take it off this channel.. 15:39:36 <dgilmore> vpavlin: sure 15:40:48 <pknirsch> Oki, anything else about F22 or DevConf? 15:42:01 <pknirsch> I take that as a no, so lets move to the Open Floor quickly 15:42:05 <pknirsch> #topic Open Floor 15:42:22 <pknirsch> I actually personally do have one more topic related to me: 15:43:30 <pknirsch> Due to a personal change i'll be giving up my seat here in the WG at the end of February, so that should give us enough time to decide on a replacement. 15:45:24 <pknirsch> But thats all for now at least from me. 15:46:11 <pknirsch> anything else? 15:46:58 <jreznik_2nd> :( 15:47:09 <jreznik_2nd> and thanks pknirsch for being our lead here! 15:47:27 <dgilmore> pknirsch: :( 15:49:30 <jreznik_2nd> and for devconf - yes, this year it's at FIT - my alma mater :) 15:49:47 <dgilmore> jreznik_2nd: where is that in Brno? 15:50:31 <jreznik_2nd> dgilmore: it's like four more stops (tram line 1) away from the old venue 15:50:47 <jreznik_2nd> a few minutes walking from a-sport 15:50:53 <pknirsch> wohoo! 15:50:56 <dgilmore> okay 15:50:58 <pknirsch> i chose the right hotel then :P 15:51:03 * pknirsch does a jig 15:51:12 <dgilmore> I put in a request for a booking at a-sport 15:51:23 * dgilmore will be in Brno Feb 2 through 13 15:51:27 <jreznik_2nd> pknirsch: avanti is not that far neither 15:51:37 <msekleta> dgilmore, it is 10 minutes walk from RH office 15:51:49 <dgilmore> msekleta: :) thanks 15:51:53 <Corey84> nice 15:51:57 <pknirsch> goodie. I'll be in Brno from the 3rd but heading back on Sunday after the devconf 15:52:30 <dgilmore> pknirsch: i get to prague at 6:45pm on the 2nd so it will be late when i get to Brno 15:52:39 <jreznik_2nd> on map http://mapy.cz/s/fgez 15:52:58 <jreznik_2nd> btw. what about FOSDEM? 15:53:09 <pknirsch> dgilmore: ye, same for me on the 3rd, i hope i won't get snow on the trip (coming by car again) 15:53:55 <jreznik_2nd> you never know in winter 15:54:01 <pknirsch> ye :/ 15:54:12 <pknirsch> i typically get snow on my way back :) 15:54:16 <jreznik_2nd> last Thursday I couldn't walk from the office to my car 15:54:21 <pknirsch> hahaha 15:54:50 <jreznik_2nd> and then ice skate, not drive home :) 15:55:48 <pknirsch> ace :) 15:56:07 <dgilmore> jreznik_2nd: I will be at fossdem i arrive early on the 30th and fly out mid day on the 2nd 15:56:22 <jreznik_2nd> btw. FIT is a very nice place - http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/FIT/ 15:56:27 <pknirsch> anyway, thanks everyone for joining today and for having me as a lead for the past year for the WG! 15:56:32 <dgilmore> fosdem 15:56:58 <jreznik_2nd> ok, we're leaving on first, we'll meet in Brno after it :) 15:57:20 <jreznik_2nd> (with everyone) 15:59:36 <pknirsch> #endmeeting