20:01:07 <sesivany> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2015-04-15
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20:01:15 <sesivany> #meetingname emea ambassadors
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20:01:23 <sesivany> #topic Roll Call
20:01:32 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
20:01:33 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
20:01:33 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
20:01:36 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
20:02:16 <Levex> .fas Levex
20:02:18 <zodbot> Levex: levex 'Levente Kurusa' <levex@linux.com>
20:02:28 <lupinix> .fas lupinix
20:02:29 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix@mailbox.org>
20:02:40 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
20:02:41 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
20:02:41 <Mohamed_Fawzy> .fas mohamedfawzy
20:02:45 <zodbot> Mohamed_Fawzy: mohamedfawzy 'Mohamed Fawzy' <medoelmasry142@gmail.com>
20:02:57 <kmf> .fas kmf
20:02:57 <zodbot> kmf: kmfcandu 'Kyle Fletcher' <kyle.fletcher@candu.com> - kmf 'Karl Fischer' <kmf@fischer.org.za>
20:03:03 <taquilla> hi folks
20:03:16 <Mohamed_Fawzy> hi
20:03:18 <sesivany> hi everyone!
20:03:21 <lupinix> hi
20:03:59 <sesivany> not many of us today, hopefully more people will show up.
20:04:08 <Levex> hey all
20:05:31 <sesivany> ok, let's start.
20:05:36 <sesivany> #topic Announcements
20:05:47 <sesivany> any announcements?
20:07:03 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
20:07:04 <sesivany> I've got one
20:07:04 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
20:07:24 <sesivany> #info Fedora 22 beta has been postponed.
20:07:26 <RGeri77> .fas rgeri77
20:07:28 <zodbot> RGeri77: rgeri77 'Rákosi Gergely' <rakosi.gergely@gmail.com>
20:07:42 <sesivany> #info Fedora 22 is now scheduled for may 26th.
20:07:49 <sesivany> basically one week slip.
20:08:03 <Mohamed_Fawzy> it is so nice
20:08:09 <taquilla> yes!
20:08:18 <sesivany> tomorrow, there will be another go/no-go meeting, so we'll see.
20:08:35 <taquilla> ambassadors meeting?
20:08:37 <sesivany> adamw: let it go ;)
20:08:50 <sesivany> taquilla: yes
20:08:58 <taquilla> ok
20:09:24 <adamw> hmm?
20:09:55 <sesivany> adamw: let Fedora 22 beta be a go tomo ;)
20:10:06 <adamw> oh, heh
20:10:45 <sesivany> adamw: just discussing the F22 schedule with ambassadors, we can't wait for the release, nothing more :)
20:11:34 <sesivany> #info Flock 2015 call for papers deadline is getting nearer - Apr 22: http://flocktofedora.net/submit-a-talk/
20:11:48 <sesivany> anyone here submitted a talk to Flock?
20:11:53 <mitzie> Actually sesivany the deadline has been extended
20:11:56 <Mohamed_Fawzy> yes
20:11:59 <Levex> sesivany, it has been postponed till May 1st I believe
20:12:21 <Levex> but yes, I plan on submitting as well
20:13:01 <sesivany> it's indeed May 2nd although the website says something else.
20:13:04 <sesivany> #undo
20:13:04 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by sesivany at 20:11:34 : Flock 2015 call for papers deadline is getting nearer - Apr 22: http://flocktofedora.net/submit-a-talk/
20:13:05 <pingou> sesivany: postponed to May 2nd
20:13:11 <pingou> too late :)
20:13:33 <sesivany> #info Flock 2015 call for papers deadline is getting nearer - May 2: http://flocktofedora.net/submit-a-talk/
20:14:08 <sesivany> one more announcement...
20:14:33 <Jamwa> .fas arthurbuliva
20:14:35 <zodbot> Jamwa: arthurbuliva 'Arthur Buliva' <arthurbuliva@gmail.com>
20:15:02 <sesivany> #info We're going to get another batch of ambassador's polo shirts. If you're eligible for renewal (after 2 years), create a ticket and apply for it.
20:15:23 <lupinix> nice
20:15:40 <RGeri77> good news for me :-)
20:15:40 <sesivany> FYI active ambassadors are eligible to get one free polo shirt every two years.
20:16:15 <taquilla> I'm one
20:16:30 <sesivany> if you don't have one, apply too, we should have sizes that we ran out of quickly last time.
20:17:14 <sesivany> ẗhe good news is that I purchased it for leftover money in the last fiscal year after a conversation with Ruth, so it doesn't charge from this year's budget.
20:17:23 <sesivany> so we will have more money for other things.
20:17:54 <sesivany> if there are no other announcements, let's move to tickets.
20:18:16 <lupinix> no announcements here
20:18:20 <sesivany> #topic Requests
20:18:38 * sesivany is checking the list...
20:18:55 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?asc=1&page=1&sort=ticket
20:19:15 <taquilla> I request a polo
20:19:42 <sesivany> taquilla: what number is it?
20:20:01 <taquilla> 468
20:20:59 <sesivany> taquilla: ok, I assigned it to Kveta, she will send it to you ASAP.
20:21:34 <sesivany> let's go by number...
20:22:00 <sesivany> #info Ticket #473 F22 media
20:22:05 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/473
20:22:05 <taquilla> ok,thanks
20:22:24 <sesivany> I don't have quotes yet, but they won't be very different from the last time.
20:22:38 <sesivany> we need to decide how many DVDs we want to produce this time.
20:23:03 <sesivany> I propose 2000 of Workstation.
20:23:16 <lupinix> how many are still over from 21?
20:23:29 <mitzie> sesivany: Do you remember how much we made for F21?
20:23:40 <sesivany> lupinix: around 500, we will get rid of them before F22.
20:23:47 <sesivany> mitzie: 3000
20:24:18 <sesivany> KDE SIG requested 1000 DVDs for their purposes.
20:24:41 <sesivany> so my suggestion is 2000 + 1000 for KDE guys.
20:25:03 <giannisk> sesivany: 1000 DVDs with only the KDE spin?
20:25:12 <sesivany> or more precisely, we agreed that it'd be better to produce 1000 alternative desktops DVDs.
20:25:17 <RGeri77> +1 for KDE Spin
20:25:22 <sesivany> so it won't be only KDE.
20:25:33 <giannisk> yes, I'm +1 with 1k alternate desktop DVDs
20:25:45 <lupinix> +1
20:25:48 <giannisk> 1000 DVDs with just the KDE Spin seem a lot to me
20:25:57 <sesivany> ok, so let's vote: 2000 Workstation and 1000 Alternative Desktops DVD.
20:26:21 <giannisk> Also, the Mutli Desktop DVDs we're producing include KDE, so no worries
20:26:21 <giannisk> +1
20:26:22 <sesivany> giannisk: we can't produce fewer, that's the minimal amount.
20:26:22 <lupinix> +1
20:26:23 <RGeri77> +1 2k Workstation, 1k laternate
20:26:27 <taquilla> +1
20:26:31 <Mohamed_Fawzy> +1
20:26:33 <mitzie> +1
20:26:34 <Levex> +1 lovely
20:26:45 <jamwa> +1
20:27:07 <sesivany> #agreed We will produce 2000 Workstation DVDs and 1000 Alternative Desktops DVDs.
20:27:27 <sesivany> next ticket...
20:27:31 <lupinix> is there already a discussion on partition of the 1000 dvds? 500 kde, 250 mate, 250 xfce or something like that?
20:28:05 <sesivany> lupinix: it will be the same dvds that will include all desktops.
20:28:19 <Mohamed_Fawzy> sesivany: if u meet Diaa Radwan please send  me some with him
20:28:19 <lupinix> ah ok
20:28:40 <kmf> +1
20:29:10 <sesivany> Mohamed_Fawzy: ok
20:29:47 <sesivany> #info Ticket #474 Funding request for DORS/CLUC 2015
20:29:55 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/474
20:29:58 <Mohamed_Fawzy> and swag for year i willnot make ticket again i will wait that :D
20:30:56 <sesivany> the request is within the planned budget.
20:31:07 <sesivany> FYI our budget for this year is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Budget:2016
20:31:33 <Levex> I'm +1! Let's spread into Croatia as well
20:31:36 <mitzie> yes, we have assigned a budget for this event
20:31:42 <sesivany> +1
20:31:44 <Mohamed_Fawzy> +1
20:31:47 <giannisk> +1
20:31:50 <lupinix> +1
20:31:56 <kmf> +1
20:32:16 <sesivany> mitzie: good luck there, it's a promising country for us.
20:32:27 <sesivany> we haven't been covering Croatia so far.
20:32:44 <mitzie> Thank you sesivany!
20:33:29 <sesivany> mitzie: I also assigne the other ticket to Kveta, so she'll send the swag ASAP.
20:33:43 <mitzie> that's great, thanks
20:33:55 <sesivany> #agreed The ticket #474 has been approved.
20:34:34 <sesivany> mitzie: when it comes to reimbursement, it probably will be better to break down the ticket into individual tickets, it's easier for jsimon.
20:34:58 <sesivany> mitzie: the tickets can refer to the original one that the expense has been approved.
20:35:48 <sesivany> that should be all for requests, or did I ask something?
20:36:10 <mitzie> ok, although I could ask some amount to be transfered to one pp account, and the rest of it to another account
20:37:22 <sesivany> mitzie: that's something you need to figure out with jsimon.
20:37:35 <mitzie> ok, whatever it's easier
20:37:40 <mitzie> Thanks sesivany
20:37:50 <sesivany> ok, one special topic...
20:37:57 <sesivany> #topic SWAG
20:38:09 <sesivany> it's not so special in fact.
20:38:18 <sesivany> we discuss it from time to time.
20:38:27 <sesivany> any new ideas what we should produce?
20:38:47 <Mohamed_Fawzy> yes
20:38:51 <Mohamed_Fawzy> i have one
20:39:00 <sesivany> I was thinking of small stickers that would replace the Windows logo  on the Super key by a Fedora logo.
20:39:03 * mhroncok is late, hi
20:39:11 <sesivany> mhroncok: hi
20:39:18 <mhroncok> .fas churchyard
20:39:19 <zodbot> mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' <mhroncok@redhat.com>
20:39:42 <gnokii> sesivany: have u found vendor fr them, we talked about them 2 years ago
20:40:08 <sesivany> gnokii: I think the vendor who does other stickers can do it.
20:40:09 <Levex> do we produce wrist rubber bands? They are so awesome, It'd be great to have Fedora ones too.
20:40:15 <giannisk> actually, what types of swag we have right now remaining? and how many?
20:40:25 <giannisk> +1 with silicone bands, love the idea
20:40:45 <Mohamed_Fawzy> +1 levex
20:40:50 <sesivany> giannisk: tickers, badges and case badges, that's all.
20:40:55 <Levex> giannisk, in fact, mozilla already has them, and I gotta admit I love 'em
20:41:14 <lupinix> +1 @Levex
20:41:14 <sesivany> aren't wrist bands something we dismissed at the EMEA FAD, mhroncok? :)
20:41:38 <mhroncok> we probbaly did
20:41:41 <Mohamed_Fawzy> i have idea for flash disk
20:41:45 <Levex> what was the reason?
20:42:37 <sesivany> Levex: I don't quite remember, something like it's no longer cool, but I have nothing against them, actually I wore a Mozilla one from FOSDEM until it tore apart.
20:42:40 <mhroncok> sesivany: but I don't remember the outcome
20:43:08 <sesivany> but I can look into wrist bands if you think it's a good idea.
20:43:28 <Levex> I think they are, it might no longer be cool, but have we ever had them?
20:43:35 <Levex> I mean we could test it or something
20:43:36 <gnokii> we had them once they wasnt cool enough
20:43:47 <Levex> oh
20:44:05 <sesivany> #action sesivany to investigate wrist band production
20:44:08 <gnokii> we used them as entry sign for fudpub in berlin always
20:44:13 <sesivany> I will at least find out quotes.
20:44:20 <sesivany> so we know how much they are.
20:44:32 <Levex> doesn't seem to expensive AFAICT
20:44:48 <gnokii> its like the temporary tattoo cool somewhere else not here
20:45:04 <RGeri77> +1 for temporary tattoo
20:45:10 <mhroncok> :D
20:45:20 <sesivany> ok, let's move on... :)
20:45:48 <sesivany> another idea is something like "Certified Fedora User" t-shirts.
20:45:57 <sesivany> Matthew had the idea at FOSDEM.
20:46:02 <Mohamed_Fawzy> sesivany: i have one idea about card flash disks like thishttp://usbcraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/custom-usb-flashdisk-card-model.jpg
20:46:06 <Mohamed_Fawzy> http://usbcraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/custom-usb-flashdisk-card-model.jpg
20:46:33 <sesivany> people would get it for some task, for example creating a fas account and getting the first badge.
20:46:51 <Levex> Mohamed_Fawzy, the problem I have with those, is that everybody's flash disks are of different colors
20:46:54 <sesivany> because we had so much users asking for t-shirts, but we can't give them away to everyone.
20:47:12 <giannisk> but that way we will end up with lots of FAS users that signed up to just get a t-shirt
20:47:29 <giannisk> maybe we should have another criteria
20:47:33 <Mohamed_Fawzy> sesivany: +1 for tshirts
20:47:37 <Levex> +1 giannisk; sad but true..
20:47:48 <giannisk> give them away to active EMEA contributors?
20:48:04 <Mohamed_Fawzy> i wish i can wear fedora tshirt in streets and university
20:48:05 <mhroncok> giannisk: define those?
20:48:11 <sesivany> giannisk: at FOSDEM, we had a Fedora badge for FOSDEM attendees, people were asking what was it, but we didn't have a plan how to get them into the game.
20:48:28 <giannisk> mhroncok: just proposed an idea
20:48:39 <sesivany> giannisk: so the idea was that they would have to show us they've gotten the badge and they would get something for it.
20:48:51 <giannisk> sesivany: I see
20:48:58 <mhroncok> !
20:49:17 <giannisk> but still, I don't think we should start giving away t-shirt to anyone that steps by our booth
20:49:19 <Levex> they get a badge and then something else for getting the badge? that doesn't seem too logical
20:49:21 <sesivany> giannisk: and Matthew had an idea that we may check the accounts of people who signed up at conferences if they get any other badges later and measure the efficiency.
20:49:43 <Levex> I believe at SCALE in LA, somebody invented such a tool sesivany
20:49:50 <Levex> that allows ppl to sign up for FAS and things like that
20:50:14 <sesivany> Levex: yeah, Patrick invented it for FOSDEM.
20:50:29 <giannisk> sesivany: that idea about checking their activity and their badges would work out
20:51:04 <lupinix> maybe something like a fedora quiz with the shirts as prices
20:51:06 <giannisk> the concept is that if someone is doing something for Fedora, then he/she should get that t-shirt
20:51:15 <giannisk> not just every random person
20:51:24 <sesivany> giannisk: that's what we do.
20:51:30 <Mohamed_Fawzy> in public talks
20:51:38 <mhroncok> I think this idea is good -> they would need to setup a fas account and interact with badges to get the t-shirt, this could result in an interest for more badges and they might be interested, so we might get more contributors (just easy ones, like tagging etc.), we can coordinate with badges guys to get a simple "I want more badges, how to get them?" page showing to fresh badgers
20:51:47 <gnokii> well we will never have enough shirts for that it will come to 1-5 a event on the end
20:51:55 <Mohamed_Fawzy> we can choose the most active one or 2
20:52:30 <sesivany> gnokii: this would probably be only for the biggest events for which we have badges.
20:52:53 <sesivany> gnokii: FOSDEM, LinuxTag, LinuxCon, DevConf,...
20:53:20 <mhroncok> and we might also say: if you want a tshirt, setup the account, get a badge for <event> and one more (not counting fas badges), return here and you'll get it
20:53:25 <sesivany> gnokii: that's very really enthusiastic Fedora users usually are.
20:53:41 <sesivany> FOSDEM is where we get most questions about such swag.
20:54:42 <giannisk> my opinion is we need to reward long-term contributors, not new people that will be influenced to sign up because they had a chance to win a t-shirt
20:55:07 <sesivany> mhroncok: yeah, to get them somehow into the game, not just wait for them to grab a sticker on the table and throw it to trash at home because he collected too many of them :)
20:55:11 <giannisk> I don't see how it would work with making people to just sign up, sadly.
20:55:45 <sesivany> giannisk: but those things don't exclude, we do support long-term contributors.
20:56:00 <giannisk> sesivany: of course, I'm not saying we aren't
20:56:01 <sesivany> giannisk: we did several t-shirt raffles for contributors.
20:56:09 <mhroncok> the problem is, that on events such as DevConf, plenty of regular Fedora contributors are around and would take all of the tshirts away
20:56:11 <sesivany> ambassadors are getting polo shirts.
20:56:40 <sesivany> I don't want to give t-shirts to users at the expense of contributors.
20:56:43 <giannisk> sesivany: I'm just thinking that giving away t-shirts to people that just sign up for it won't be that much worth it
20:56:54 <mhroncok> and I agree long term contributors deserve rewards, we need to get the new ones
20:57:15 <gnokii> think to give a smaller amount to more events and use them as gift for first question in a fedora talk was best practice so far
20:57:33 <sesivany> giannisk: well, if we see that it doesn't have an effect, for example 1/100 such users keep cotributing, then we can stop it.
20:57:38 <Mohamed_Fawzy> in fedora talks and events
20:57:56 <sesivany> gnokii: that's also possible.
20:58:02 <Levex> +1 gnokii
20:58:03 <giannisk> hmmm, what if we consider smaller gifts for people signing up? like beer mats?
20:58:19 <giannisk> and if they do several stuff for fedora later they can win a tshirt
20:58:31 <giannisk> like collect X badges, or do Y tasks
20:58:36 <sesivany> the original question was if we want to produce such t-shirts, what criteria we use to distribute them, that's another question, it could easily be different event from event.
20:58:37 <giannisk> whatever
20:58:41 <gnokii> I prefer to give nothing to somebody wh just does an FAS account
20:59:02 <lupinix> +1 gnokii
20:59:23 <gnokii> we get a lot new accounts and no new contributrs
20:59:36 <taquilla> true
21:00:27 <Levex> maybe we could send them an email every month or so?
21:00:30 <sesivany> gnokii: frankly giving it for questions is not much better, I have met many people how asked a question about Fedora at a Fedora talk, but didn't really care much and accepted the swag just because they were  given it.
21:00:34 <Levex> reminding them why they have their FAS account?
21:00:50 <gnokii> the practice to send release-wise shirts to various contributors is better to gift to people qho do
21:00:51 <mhroncok> Levex: please no
21:01:48 <Levex> I didn't mean to spam them, just something shortly after signing up to remind them how to get started
21:01:54 <Levex> with something easy, like tagging for example
21:01:58 <sesivany> please don't mix two things, we can do both: t-shirts for users and t-shirts for contributors.
21:02:17 <sesivany> ok, let's move on, this ended up as always :)
21:02:28 <mhroncok> :)
21:02:37 <giannisk> should we continue this on the mailing list?
21:02:51 <Levex> :D
21:02:58 <sesivany> giannisk: sure, or you can create a ticket if you have a concrete idea.
21:03:04 <Levex> giannisk, I would love to have such a thread
21:03:12 <giannisk> great
21:03:23 <sesivany> #topic Events
21:03:37 <sesivany> what's the next event coming...
21:03:52 <gnokii> linuxwochen in 2 weeks
21:04:29 <sesivany> gnokii: are you going there?
21:04:34 <gnokii> yes
21:04:51 <sesivany> gnokii: good, I was afraid no one picked it up this year.
21:05:10 <gnokii> where does this come from?
21:05:57 <sesivany> gnokii: it was left blank in the plan: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/EventPlan:2016
21:06:48 <sesivany> gnokii: anyone else is going?
21:06:50 <gnokii> well 2016 is way ahead
21:07:05 <gnokii> the two locals and maybe jreznik
21:07:06 <mhroncok> fiscal 2016
21:07:18 <sesivany> gnokii: that's fiscal year 2016 which starts in March 2015 and end in Feb 2016.
21:07:40 <sesivany> gnokii: I know it's not very logical, but that's the way it is, we follow RH fiscal year.
21:08:41 <gnokii> well I will not use 1000$ thats for sure as I will not rent an appartment and I said that in January in meeting
21:09:19 <sesivany> gnokii: ok, we will use the rest on other things.
21:09:37 <gnokii> there is only one problem
21:10:03 <gnokii> I have no table cloth and no rollup
21:10:20 <b10n1k> .fas b10n1k
21:10:21 <zodbot> b10n1k: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' <jbonatakis@gmail.com> - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' <california17@gmail.com>
21:10:54 <sesivany> gnokii: I will talk to jreznik, if he goes, he can take it from Brno.
21:10:55 <gnokii> still in posession of heffer, asked more then once in irc and send 2 mails no response. We already had non for CLTT
21:11:20 <gnokii> sesivany: I asked him to do so but he needs allowance from his wife first ;)
21:11:57 <sesivany> gnokii: heffer has not been very responsive lately :/
21:12:27 <sesivany> ok, time is almost up.
21:12:31 <sesivany> any other events?
21:12:36 <mhroncok> 3dexpo
21:12:51 <sesivany> mhroncok: ah, completely forgot about it.
21:12:54 <mhroncok> it's in the list and it's happening next week
21:12:59 <sesivany> mhroncok: when is it?
21:13:13 <mhroncok> 21th to 23th
21:13:33 <sesivany> mhroncok: but we didn't pay the fee anyway, right? :/
21:13:43 <mhroncok> sesivany: nope, we can discuss this after meeting
21:13:51 <sesivany> mhroncok: ok
21:13:56 <andreasch> .fas andreasch
21:13:57 <zodbot> andreasch: andreasch 'Andreas Christoforou' <aceoscy@gmail.com>
21:14:08 <andreasch> hi
21:14:21 <sesivany> mitzie: DORS/CLUC is on track?
21:14:51 <sesivany> Levex: what about PlayIT?
21:15:04 <giannisk> we also have OSCAL in Albania, in about three weeks from now
21:15:35 <sesivany> giannisk: I will check with Kveta if she has sent the package.
21:15:44 <giannisk> thank you sesivany :)
21:16:37 <sesivany> giannisk: it's been busy time for us, Kveta has also changed a job, neither of us is in the original team any more.
21:16:55 <mhroncok> oh
21:17:16 <giannisk> sesivany: oh, I see
21:17:30 <sesivany> mhroncok: what about CLT? Did it go well?
21:17:40 <mhroncok> :D
21:17:51 <sesivany> mhroncok: except for the car parking :D
21:18:03 <mhroncok> yes, except for that, evreything was great
21:18:17 <mhroncok> if I knew there is no table cloth, I would bring one from Brno
21:18:29 <mhroncok> but I brought DVDs and lot of them were gon after the weekend
21:19:00 <mhroncok> sesivany: http://www.thw-chemnitz.de/aktuelles/aktuelle-meldungen/artikel/das-thw-chemnitz-bei-den-chemnitzer-linuxtagen/
21:19:32 <sesivany> nice :)
21:19:46 <sesivany> #topic Open floor
21:20:06 <sesivany> now we can discuss anything, we can 10 minutes before LATAM meeting starts AFAIK.
21:20:24 <gnokii> we need new rollup
21:20:41 <lupinix> i'll leave now, good night everyone :)
21:20:52 <mhroncok> lupinix: gn
21:21:18 <sesivany> gnokii: just file a ticket, you can have it produced, or I can produce it in Brno and ship it to you.
21:21:59 <sesivany> gnokii: some new design would be welcome, we have had the 4 foundations for several years already.
21:22:07 <sesivany> maybe something with the products.
21:22:17 <gnokii> they are 9 years old
21:22:44 <gnokii> I would prefer lighter once then we have
21:23:04 <sesivany> gnokii: btw we're hiring an intern designer in Brno, for Fedora as help to mo and ryan.
21:23:32 <gnokii> yeah I am to old for intern
21:24:39 <mhroncok> :)
21:24:59 <mhroncok> there is no age limit I guess
21:25:26 <sesivany> there is not, but the pay is not really for living :)
21:25:39 <sesivany> it's meant to be a side job for students to get experience.
21:25:41 <mhroncok> I know :(
21:25:55 <mhroncok> happy to no longer be intern :)
21:26:33 <sesivany> mhroncok: on the other hand without the internship you wouldn't have gotten the job ;)
21:27:06 <mhroncok> I said "no longer", yes :)
21:27:38 <mhroncok> (time to end?)
21:27:53 <sesivany> yeah
21:28:01 <sesivany> thank you for coming and see you in two weeks
21:28:10 <sesivany> #endmeeting