06:00:16 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n
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06:00:20 <pravins> #meetingname i18n
06:00:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:00:23 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:30 <paragan> hi
06:00:31 <pravins> Hi all !!
06:00:39 <pravins> who are available today for meeting.
06:00:45 <ueno> hi
06:00:51 * pravins expecting quick meeting today
06:00:57 <pravins> hi ueno paragan :)
06:01:04 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-05-13
06:01:47 <pravins> while other joining lets move to first topic
06:01:52 <epico> hi
06:01:52 <juhp> hi
06:01:53 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:02:04 <pravins> hi epico juhp :)
06:02:08 <pravins> #info 2015-05-26 	Fedora 22 Final Release
06:02:12 <mfabian> Hi!
06:02:16 <pravins> We had final freeze yesterday.
06:02:20 <pravins> hi mfabian :)
06:02:33 <pravins> Is there any important blocker issue pending from i18n side? At least i did not saw any.
06:03:00 <juhp> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/22/final/buglist
06:04:08 <pravins> thanks juhp for link :)
06:04:14 <pravins> at least no blocker from i18n side.
06:04:36 <pravins> Same time we should note now its 3 products :(
06:04:51 <fujiwarat> hi
06:05:01 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :)
06:05:32 <pravins> May be we should do some better planning for F23 to involve more with Server and Cloud development. Or at least keep track for whats happening.
06:06:06 <pravins> lets move ahead.
06:06:07 <pravins> #topic New topics
06:06:10 <pravins> #info #40: Fedora 22 Changes (pravins)
06:06:14 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40
06:06:17 <pravins> .bug 1209460
06:06:22 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1209460 Use langtable for console font information - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1209460
06:07:06 <pravins> as mfabian mentioned last time, this is add-on to our change proposal of New console font.
06:07:18 <pravins> unfortunately not much progress on bug yet.
06:07:32 <pravins> it is accepted as a Freeze exception.
06:07:48 <juhp> ah
06:08:07 <juhp> this is for anaconda right?
06:08:11 <pravins> yes
06:08:42 <pravins> Lohit2_Odia_Telugu Glibc_Unicode_7 Lohit2_Odia_Telugu and doing fine.
06:09:42 <paragan> dnf-langpacks change is also completed
06:09:44 <juhp> I think mfabian was going to look at trying to make a patch but probably late now to get it into anaconda
06:10:20 <pravins> its accepted FreezeException so might be possible.
06:10:40 <pravins> 2 weeks for final release.
06:11:55 <pravins> lets comment on bug and see if it can get any momentum :)
06:12:01 <mfabian> Should I try to make a patch? I didn’t yet look into this at all.
06:12:56 <pravins> mfabian: yeah, that will be nice. Since this is important issue and already accepted as FreezeException.
06:13:05 <mfabian> OK.
06:13:16 <pravins> #info #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins)
06:13:19 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43
06:13:29 <juhp> mfabian, thanks
06:14:31 <pravins> mfabian: thanks :)
06:14:56 <pravins> Wanted to discuss this from last couple of weeks.
06:15:03 <pravins> I had communication with OSAS and FPL.
06:15:21 <pravins> First we need FPL approval and then OSAS can approve budget for FAD
06:15:32 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18n_2015
06:15:47 <pravins> FPL requested additional information for our old FAD page.
06:16:25 <pravins> i.e. Outcome, Impact  and also how our FAD objective aligns with overall Fedora objective.
06:16:34 <juhp> good
06:17:13 <pravins> yeah, it make sense to see FAD activities are going in line with Fedora overall objectives.
06:17:22 <pravins> One more point
06:17:29 <pravins> if you see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18n_2015
06:17:40 <pravins> you can get hint of G11N FAD rather than I18N only.
06:18:12 <pravins> Can you all quickly go through it and see if anything missing there or wrong?
06:20:14 * pravins also going through page
06:20:37 * juhp read through
06:21:14 <juhp> I think we need to talk to l10n and zanata and see if anyone wants to come...
06:22:05 <pravins> juhp: good point.
06:22:13 <juhp> I feel like there could be more technical tasks we could discuss
06:22:56 <pravins> Agree !!
06:23:33 <pravins> We need input of all team to add more technical tasks.
06:25:29 <pravins> feel free to add more information to page :) specifically from task perspective. :)
06:26:40 <pravins> At presently tentative date for F23 release is 2015-10-27
06:26:52 <juhp> yeah good to list things people are actually wanting/planning to work on
06:27:12 <pravins> with couple of weeks sleep, we can expect it goes around 1st or 2nd week of Nov.
06:27:42 <pravins> s/sleep/slip
06:27:51 <pravins> juhp: right and once we have task listed, other interested people can join easily.
06:28:06 <pravins> presently task i have added are more from planning perspectives.
06:28:28 * pravins will drop an email on mailing list for inputs.
06:28:59 <pravins> #action pravins to drop an email on mailing list for FAD task inputs.
06:29:06 <juhp> thanks
06:29:15 <pravins> lets move ahead
06:29:16 <pravins> #info #48: Discussion on Badge design for i18n group contributors (pravins)
06:29:21 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/48
06:29:26 <pravins> Not progressed much
06:29:33 <pravins> This is again from last meeting. Basically need review on i18n badge design :)
06:29:37 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/351/i18n_member
06:29:56 <pravins> i did not liked text, it can be better i think
06:30:08 <pravins> its already 3 weeks, good to give feedback quickly.
06:32:10 <pravins> #action on all to provide feedback on badge design.
06:32:56 <paragan> sure thanks
06:33:14 <pravins> last topic of the day :)
06:33:18 <pravins> #info #49: Internationalization talking points for Fedora 22 (pravins)
06:33:24 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/49
06:33:38 <pravins> I strongly feel, we miss this thing in each release.
06:33:50 <pravins> We have done good very good for Fedora 22 release.
06:34:49 <pravins> Good to see some blogs from i18n improvements :)
06:34:58 <pravins> s/from/for
06:35:21 <pravins> presently things are available on http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html#i18n
06:35:29 <pravins> and also on http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html#i18n
06:35:37 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
06:36:00 <pravins> May be we can gather points from here and create one single post mentioning all i18n improvements in Fedora 22
06:36:18 <pravins> How can we collaborate for same?
06:37:04 <paragan> maybe create a wiki page and let people add their points and finalize once all are done with their input.
06:37:19 <pravins> yes, this is good idea.
06:37:30 <pravins> We can try this post in Fedora Magazine.
06:38:16 <juhp> nice idea
06:39:02 <pravins> i think this post will be more highlight the impact of improvements from user side.
06:39:39 <pravins> lets set deadline for this?
06:40:25 <pravins> since release is happening on 26, we should have first draft ready by 20 for review.
06:40:57 <pravins> anyone interested in volunteering? :)
06:41:42 <pravins> i will prepare first draft
06:41:51 <pravins> #action pravins to prepare first draft for talking points.
06:43:17 <pravins> and here we comes to our last topic :)
06:43:19 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
06:43:38 <pravins> As we discussed in our FAD topic
06:43:44 <pravins> about G11N
06:44:24 <pravins> I am seeing other groups working on G11N are not that active.
06:44:45 <pravins> specifically l10n, fltg (language testing) and zanata
06:45:21 <pravins> i think it will be nice, if we can work together with these group for more broad objective of globalization.
06:45:51 <pravins> i have drafted one proposal for this line https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Globalization_Proposal
06:46:13 <pravins> planning to drop email to respective groups soon.
06:46:38 <pravins> if you have any suggestions for improvement do add that in proposal.
06:47:47 <pravins> if nothing more lets close meeting in couple of minutes.
06:49:11 <pravins> #endmeeting