04:01:19 #startmeeting APAC 2015-05-23 04:01:19 Meeting started Sat May 23 04:01:19 2015 UTC. The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:01:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:01:29 #topic Roll call 04:01:45 .fas tuanta 04:01:46 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:02:15 #info Agenda Item: Announcements 04:02:27 .fas nangthang 04:02:28 nangthang: nangthang 'Thang Nguyen Nang' 04:02:28 .fas kumarpraveen 04:02:31 praveenkumar: kumarpraveen '' 04:02:44 #info Agenda Item: Media and swag 04:03:04 .fas Ashutoshbhakare 04:03:05 #info Agenda Item: F22 release parties 04:03:06 Ashutosh: ashutoshbhakare 'Ashutosh Sudhakar Bhakare' 04:03:30 #info Agenda Item: FUDCons 04:03:46 #info - schedule on 6th June 2014 04:04:29 #info in Engineering college located at Aurangabad 04:04:59 Ashutosh: it should be 6th June 2015 instead 2014. 04:05:00 #info Agenda Item: tickets 04:05:22 hi all 04:05:26 #agreed - Sorry 04:05:29 start meeting now? 04:05:49 #topic Announcements 04:06:08 you may all know that Fedora would go GA next week? 04:06:09 hi 04:06:32 tuanta: yes 04:06:42 yup 04:07:09 yes, cool. May 26th 2015. 04:08:05 and the new loop is coming; there are a lot of work for ambassadors :) 04:08:15 #topic Media and swag 04:08:41 there are some F21 media left in Singapore and China, I think 04:09:17 tuanta: In Pune as well :) 04:09:21 we will need statistics for better producing 04:09:47 Not sure exactly, but should be around few hundreds. 04:09:53 we will improve it after each release 04:10:12 tuanta: if we are doing good, number should get increase after each release :) 04:10:50 yes, pravins. I will send a reminder for India, Singapore and China team to put the real numbers 04:11:17 looks good. 04:11:49 #action tuanta to send a reminder to India, Singapore and China teams to get the statistics of Media production and distribution 04:12:07 for F22, it is nice to have FUDCon in Pune 04:12:10 same time, since FUDCon is happening in 4th week of June, we would like to conduct 4-5 release parties in Pune and around in first and second week of June. So good if we can get media quickly. 04:12:29 then we can produce in mass to distribute to all countries there 04:12:57 yes, pravins 04:13:53 siddhesh said that he is getting the quotation now 04:14:41 #info siddhesh is getting quotation to produce about 4,000 F22 media in Pune to distribute to all other countries during FUDCon 04:15:22 .hello alick 04:15:23 alick: alick 'Zhao Tao' 04:15:33 we will discuss this more on the mailing list, I think 04:15:43 agreed 04:15:53 * harish just joined. 04:16:00 hi harish 04:16:05 tuanta, hi 04:16:10 we are discussing about media 04:16:22 and i still have loads of f21s 04:16:32 yes, the situation was not good in F22 04:16:44 how many of them have you got in Singapore now? 04:16:58 and how about China, alick ? 04:17:11 probably 300++ 04:17:14 we need real statistics to improve this work 04:17:26 halfline: hi, glad to see you :) 04:17:57 harish, about 300++ in 1,000 right? 04:18:17 tuanta: need to check. IIRC ~800 04:19:03 i know that there is a few boxes in the cabinet and i have been sending them off here and there. i will check on what is left on Monday. 04:19:36 i received shipments from Brno and from Pune. 04:19:54 #action alick, harish and siddhesh to check how many F21 media left 04:19:56 tuanta: will distribute 100--200 during HKOSC 04:20:13 HKOSC is on June? 04:20:29 it is better to distribute F22 media, I think 04:20:49 you may know that F22 is coming next week 04:22:44 we need statistics soon to decide to produce how many F22 media. we will make it in Pune and distribute to other countries during FUDCon Pune 04:22:57 any more comments? or next topic? 04:23:16 next topic please 04:23:35 #topic F22 release parties 04:23:55 it is time to prepare F22 release parties 04:24:36 any questions about this kind of event? 04:24:55 #info i and pravin scheduled one on 6th June 04:25:04 Ashutosh: yes. 04:25:06 tuanta: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/194 pravins created a ticket for upcoming release party 04:25:10 i think it is useful to have them. there will always be new people. 04:25:12 +1 Ashutosh 04:25:21 :) 04:25:26 +1 harish 04:25:47 it is best place to PR our community 04:25:56 tuanta: only blocker right now is F22 media. Hoping we will get some by 4th june, so we can bring it to Aurangabad (200km from Pune) 04:26:26 ! 04:26:40 go ahead, harish 04:27:03 is making CDs still a need? or should we focus on ways to make them on thumbdrives instead? 04:27:16 ! 04:27:48 harish, this issue has been discussed a lot on the mailing list; the problem is thumbdrives are more expensive than DVDs 04:27:59 +1 tuanta 04:28:25 even the we can replace the feel of dvd with pendrives 04:28:30 then* 04:28:37 cant* 04:28:41 and if we give a thumbdrive away to a person, they will easily to erase them for other usage purpose :) 04:28:49 understand that. but I think if we can find ways at release parties to have them loaded into self-provided thumbdrives would be worthy of exploring. 04:29:05 self-provided. not provided by us. 04:29:11 harish, it is a good point 04:29:23 they bring their own, tell them ahead of time to bring a 2G or some such capacity thumbdrive. 04:29:54 we set up our laptops or some set of systems that are ready to copy the ISO to their thumbdrives. 04:29:56 having fedora (original) DVD is more valuable for any new comer 04:30:02 we did that in some last events here 04:30:10 assuming that they have a cd/dvd drive. 04:30:49 DVD is less and less popular but it does not fade away any time soon. 04:30:50 that way is good if we see it is just a storage media 04:31:33 however, it is also a small gift 04:31:37 not to digress, but i think if we have a set of actions that are around "how to load up ISOs into a self-provided thumbdrive at a release party" then we can have a lesser need for CDs/DVDs. 04:31:44 they can be done in parallel. 04:31:50 yes, harish 04:31:53 we can do both 04:32:07 +1 harish totally 04:33:30 harish: this is good idea and should be given as a option. We can decide based on response from crowd. 04:34:07 i can see the release party having a side track where there are laptops with multiple USB ports ready to be used for transferring the ISOs to them. 04:34:37 if we announce it as part of the release party, i think people would come with thumbdrives handy. tell them the minimum needed. 04:35:06 response will definitely vary from location to location. i..e countries, city crowd. 04:35:07 +1 harish. it should be prepared and announced to participants 04:35:31 announcing and preparing people early is useful. 04:36:01 pravins, we can do both and see. The most important is we need statistics 04:36:27 for that matter, if you can solicit within your friends and colleagues for thumbdrives of small capacities like 2G that they don't want anymore, you can have them ready with the ISO loaded in. 04:37:08 tuanta: +1 04:37:17 i know i have 3 or 4 2G drives that I have not used for a long time that I could donate. 04:37:43 tuanta: about the statistics, above number I provided is correct. 04:37:44 + harish. it is a good idea too 04:37:56 it is a question of spinning and managing the expectations. 04:38:00 it is another way for people to contribute to open source :) 04:38:27 "Bring your thumbdrives, and leave with Fedora loaded". 04:38:58 well well well. we are going further. A good slogan :) 04:39:28 just shifting the line closer to the recipient. 04:39:34 alick, you are talking about F21 media? I think it is best to put those statistics onto a wiki 04:39:45 I will set a new wiki and send reminder to all of you 04:39:56 tuanta: yeah, ok 04:40:19 tuanta: we actually use a private spreadsheet to track the distribution in china 04:40:39 tuanta: the distribution of Fedora media i mean 04:41:07 harish, any more sentence to tell people that they could help others with their rarely-used thumbdrives? 04:41:25 alick, we should use wiki for that purpose 04:41:26 * harish thinking ... 04:41:50 for more open and transparency 04:41:58 tuanta: yeah agreed 04:42:18 +1 harish. I am thinking too :) 04:42:20 i can envision a cartoon where there are these lonely thumbdrives (all 2G) and with thought bubbles that say "I wish I could be useful. I wish you could load up Fedora and make be happy" 04:42:45 harish's point is pretty solid. We should encourage more usage of thumbdrives. 04:43:02 But meantime DVDs will still be around for some time. 04:43:11 for sure, alick 04:43:20 We need some, but less and less DVDs to distribute. 04:43:24 it is to be set a lower amount 04:45:08 #idea encourage people to bring rarely-used thumbdrives to Fedora release parties to help others. Fedora will be loaded in place into those thumbdrives to give away to other needed people 04:45:39 #idea we need some cartoon, slogan, etc. to put into event poster, wiki, etc. for that 04:46:55 we could do a one-for-one exchange. "bring a lonely thumbdrive and exchange it for a happy one with Fedora loaded" 04:46:57 #action tuanta to share those ideas onto the mailing list and order design team to do something 04:47:30 harish, or we can exchange another Fedora gift 04:47:40 a cap, for example 04:47:41 sure. 04:47:45 or T-shirt 04:47:49 etc. 04:47:54 it would be more fun :) 04:48:21 we just need to explore clever ways to encourage people :-) 04:48:32 and then execute it 04:48:49 yes :) 04:48:57 harish : +1 04:49:27 ok, I marked an action to bring this onto the mailing list 04:49:33 thanks 04:49:36 we will discuss more with other regions there 04:49:57 next topic? 04:50:02 yes 04:50:09 #topic FUDCons 04:50:30 you all know that FUDCon Pune 2015 is coming 04:50:45 anyone here is attending? 04:50:49 i am 04:50:53 i am 04:51:04 i am not 04:51:09 it will be my first fudcon 04:51:16 yes, cool. see you all there. my flight ticket has been booked 04:51:34 tuanta : yes :) 04:51:48 however, do you know we are planning for FUDCon 2016? 04:51:51 * harish need to get my visa etc done. will do so soon. 04:52:14 yes, but did we get any bid yet? 04:52:19 the idea behind is: the location for FUDCon 2016 will be announced during FUDCon 2015 04:52:49 there is only one bid up to now; and the deadline is quite closed 04:53:12 that bid is from Cambdian team 04:53:17 Cambodian 04:53:48 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_PhnomPenh_2016 04:55:06 I don't know if there is another team, in preparing 04:55:36 it is discussing on fudcon-planning mailing list 04:55:36 not aware if the Singapore Fedora community is considering bidding. 04:56:20 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2015-May/006045.html 04:57:12 harish, deadline is so closed (tomorrow) and there is no sign that they are doing something 04:57:26 anyway, we will wait to the deadline :) 04:57:27 indeed 04:57:51 ok, last (but not least) topic 04:57:59 #topic Tickets 04:58:17 there is only one ticket to review this week 04:58:20 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/194 04:58:30 for Fedora 22 Release party AT Aurangabad 04:58:55 thank you Ashutosh and pravins to prepare for it 04:59:09 +1 04:59:10 :) 04:59:15 it is in budget limit ($100) so I don't see any problems with 04:59:29 +1 04:59:43 +1 from me. Just thinking more about the new idea (thumbdrives) we discussed today 04:59:55 +1 from me 04:59:56 me and pravin is also announcing about FUDCON pune 05:00:03 in this release party 05:00:08 +1 Ashutosh 05:00:42 Ashutosh, your vote? 05:00:49 +1 05:00:57 +1 05:01:17 #agreed Approved ticket #194 05:01:36 #action tuanta to modify the ticket #194 to approved 05:01:47 another issue: 05:02:12 there are a few pending for reimbursement tickets now 05:02:15 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/13 05:02:39 izhar seems too busy. He could not process them 05:02:59 ping him. 05:03:27 harish, I did it a few times during this month 05:03:44 I will retry more :) 05:03:54 i will do so as well. 05:04:01 yes, thanks 05:04:31 tuanta : thanks for this quick approval :) 05:04:36 siddhesh needs money to prepare for F22 media 05:05:01 there are some pending tickets belongs to him (for F21 media :) 05:05:12 ok, time is over, I see 05:05:21 anything else today? 05:05:32 tuanta: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/195 05:05:53 #info there are a few pending tickets now. They should be reimbursed asap 05:06:16 tuanta: this is rootconf event ticket which happened last week 05:06:16 #action tuanta and harish to ping izhar more 05:06:40 tuanta: I created event page and also attached expense here. 05:07:14 praveenkumar, that event has been happened? 05:07:24 tuanta: yes, it happened 05:07:31 you opened a ticket too late I think 05:07:56 we will see if we can do anything; but we encourage people to prepare their events/activities asap 05:08:24 tuanta: I asked you in last meeting about it and you said, it would be ok to attend event and then file ticket for it, sure have a look. 05:09:06 praveenkumar, sorry, I do not remember that; we are all too busy for day jobs 05:09:24 yeah, no problem, Just reminding. 05:09:33 so please follow the guidelines and do everything open 05:09:55 * pravins hope we did voting on f22 aurangbad release party 05:10:03 pravins: yep 05:10:05 I see both wiki page and ticket have been opened for about an hour only 05:10:20 tuanta: yes, I did it before today meeting. 05:10:42 praveenkumar, you should not do that; all should be prepared asap 05:10:58 have you read these guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Reimbursement 05:10:59 ? 05:11:20 great, thanks all :) 05:11:36 tuanta: since there was only travel expense, ticket booked early so there was no change. but will make sure next time follow the guideline 05:12:27 time is over now; this should be discussed more and decided on mailing list, trac for waiting for next meeting 05:13:07 s/for/or 05:13:34 any other topics? 05:13:47 not from my side. 05:14:13 ok, thank you all 05:14:17 thanks. 05:14:21 see you 05:14:23 thank you 05:14:26 #endmeeting