17:00:05 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2015-07-16)
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17:00:05 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig
17:00:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig'
17:00:05 <nirik> #topic init process
17:00:38 * N3LRX 
17:01:03 * DiscordianUK raises my hand
17:01:51 * striker .
17:02:04 <vwbusguy> heya
17:02:55 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive on in
17:03:03 <nirik> #topic Week in review
17:03:14 <nirik> anyone have items for week in review? common bugs/issues?
17:03:27 <striker> more incomplete fedup upgrades
17:03:49 <striker> folks following half of the process - simple things to fix, but happens often
17:04:12 <nirik> I've seen a uptick in people also installing random stuff from updates-testing (but not enabling the repo) and then running into issues updating later too.
17:05:02 <vwbusguy> striker, I experienced one of those myself last week
17:05:21 <nirik> should get better in f23+ hopefully...
17:05:29 <striker> i'm not too worried to just tell them to tar / to a backup hdd and then re-install fresh
17:05:54 <striker> if the upgrade breaks for whatever reason ^
17:05:59 <nirik> yep.
17:06:01 <striker> (3rd party pkgs, etc)
17:07:10 <vwbusguy> Seems if fedup just had a distro-sync hook at the end it would save a lot of grief ;-)
17:07:25 <nirik> well, in f23+ its going to go away in favor of a dnf plugin. ;)
17:07:35 <DiscordianUK> I've seen people with multilib problems (including me)
17:07:58 <striker> DiscordianUK: after fedup?
17:08:12 <nirik> (which will do a distro-sync)
17:08:14 <DiscordianUK> No sorry
17:08:28 <striker> oh, just in general
17:08:33 <DiscordianUK> I don't use fedup , sorry to be off topic
17:08:43 <nirik> the people recently I have seen with multlib stuff is because they installed something from testing or some other not enabled repo
17:09:02 <striker> I have noticed this ^ with one wine-user installing wine from non-Fedora repos
17:09:28 <nirik> yep.
17:09:31 <DiscordianUK> wine is the one I've seen a few times
17:09:40 <nirik> wine has a ton of subpackages...
17:10:04 <nirik> anyhow, anything else for week in review?
17:10:24 <nirik> #topic ticket #178: Track weekly issues through Collab tool
17:10:24 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/178
17:10:41 <nirik> striker: you filed this a while ago... kept forgetting to add it to meeting tho. Sorry about that
17:10:48 <striker> ^ this can be closed in favor of CommOps
17:11:01 <nirik> oh? cool... how would that work?
17:11:19 <striker> CommOps will be a way for all who participate, SIGs and other Teams to give an overview of what's happening in their areas, etc.
17:11:25 <striker> afaik
17:11:46 <nirik> ok, so in theory we could note our weekly stuff there (and also have other teams notice it too?)
17:12:05 <striker> we could
17:12:23 <nirik> anyhow, I think tracking better what kind of stuff we see would be nice...
17:12:39 <nirik> but some of it's hard to categorize.
17:12:46 <striker> yes
17:13:02 <nirik> and also hard to keep track of 24x7
17:13:12 <striker> yes, that too :)
17:13:51 <nirik> ok, so feel free to close this and we will see what happens with commops...
17:14:12 <striker> ack
17:14:21 * striker meant to close it b4 mtg
17:14:26 <nirik> no worries.
17:14:29 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
17:14:38 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? suggestions or ideas?
17:15:07 <Bob131> Uh, there's an issue I've noticed with Webkit-GTK. Is this a suitable time/the righrt place to raise it?
17:17:14 <nirik> Bob131: not really. ;) That sounds like something you should file a bug on?
17:17:34 <nirik> we can of course help you find info / right place to report it...
17:17:45 <Bob131> Oh, I have, but the bug tracker is silent
17:17:55 <Bob131> lemme see if I can find a link
17:18:58 <nirik> No worries. :)
17:19:15 <nirik> Anything else anyone would like to bring up? if not, will close out in a minute or two.
17:19:21 <striker> Bob131: this is a meeting for an overall review of support on #fedora
17:19:22 <striker> you can ask technical questions about issues you are having there ^
17:19:22 <striker> or #webkit
17:19:36 <Bob131> Yeah, okay. Sorry about that
17:20:46 <nirik> no worries at all.
17:20:51 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone!
17:20:54 <nirik> #endmeeting