06:00:29 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n 06:00:29 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jul 22 06:00:29 2015 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:29 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:00:33 <pravins> #meetingname i18n 06:00:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:01:08 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call 06:01:08 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-07-22 06:01:12 <pravins> Hi all, 06:01:12 <Satya> hi! 06:01:13 <paragan> Hi 06:01:27 <fujiwarat> hi 06:01:37 <epico> hi 06:01:48 <pravins> hi Satya paragan fujiwarat epico :) 06:02:03 <anish_> Hi! 06:02:15 <mfabian> Hi! 06:02:17 <pravins> Lets have a quickly meeting and see our progress for Fedora 23 06:02:24 <pravins> hi anish_ mfabian :) 06:02:29 <pravins> While other joins lets see upcoming schedule 06:02:35 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:02:35 <pravins> #info 2015-07-28 Alpha Freeze (*) 06:02:35 <pravins> #info 2015-07-28 Software String Freeze 06:02:35 <pravins> #info 2015-07-28 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) 06:02:35 <pravins> #info 2015-07-28 Bodhi activation point 06:02:36 <pravins> #info 2015-08-11 Alpha Release 06:02:37 <pravins> #info 2015-08-25 Software Translation Deadline 06:03:13 <pravins> Less than one week for Alpha freeze. 06:03:44 <pravins> #topic New topics 06:03:50 <pravins> #info #43: G11N FAD in 2015 (pravins) 06:03:53 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 06:04:10 <pravins> Good news. Our idea to have FAD is accepted by Fedora council. !! 06:04:17 <juhp> hi 06:04:24 <anish_> cool 06:04:28 <pravins> hi juhp :) 06:05:03 <pravins> Only issue remains is budget. We have requested $7000 budget normally FAD gets $5000. 06:05:08 <paragan> yes good news :) 06:05:25 <epico> great :) 06:05:26 <pravins> Council is checking with OSAS about budgeting, i am hoping we will get update by next week. 06:05:46 <Satya> cool! 06:05:55 <pravins> Same time also question raised regarding does Red Hat G11N team has approved budget for accommodation. 06:06:41 <pravins> We are expecting $2200 budget from RH G11N team for accommodation. 06:06:55 <pravins> If will give good impression, if this budget is already approved. 06:07:02 <juhp> pravins, I'll try to look into that 06:07:33 <pravins> juhp: gear. should i add action item for it? 06:07:43 <pravins> s/gear/great 06:07:53 <juhp> if you like 06:08:35 <pravins> #action juhp will try to get approval for accommodation budget from RH G11N. 06:09:55 <pravins> hoping will get $7000 approval from council but if it not may be we need to prioritize our spending. will discuss on that in next meeting. 06:11:39 <pravins> if there is nothing on FAD, lets move to next topic/. 06:12:05 <pravins> #info #50: Feature/Change planning for Fedora 23 (pravins) 06:12:09 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/50 06:13:17 <pravins> Hows our change proposals are going on? 06:14:09 <pravins> epico: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-libzhuyin is 100% done i think? 06:14:27 <epico> yes, fixes reported issues now. 06:14:40 <pravins> excellent. 06:15:08 <pravins> fujiwarat: thanks for blog on IBUs 1.5.11 release :) 06:15:15 <fujiwarat> yes 06:15:48 <pravins> #info Change proposal IBus Libzhuyin is 100% complete. 06:15:58 <pravins> #link https://desktopi18n.wordpress.com/2015/07/21/ibus-1-5-11-is-released/ 06:16:13 <pravins> fujiwarat: does this mean change proposal 100% complete? 06:16:33 <fujiwarat> yes, it does. 06:17:03 <pravins> #info IBus 1.5.11 change proposal is 100% complete. 06:17:13 <pravins> next one. 06:17:32 <pravins> Unicode 8.0 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unicode_8.0 06:18:17 <mfabian> This is also done. 06:18:41 <pravins> mfabian: excellent :) 06:18:49 <pravins> issues at libicu side. 06:18:51 <mfabian> Marko Myllynen has sent me another addition of characters he would like to have transliterated, so I’ll probably make another small update of the patch. 06:19:38 <pravins> mfabian: i reviewed Unicode 8.0 patch yesterday. 06:20:06 <pravins> its clean. no backward compatibility issue now. Only 19 characters got changed but those are due to changes in UnicodeData.txt 06:20:17 <pravins> i will comment on libc-alpha soon. 06:21:14 <pravins> #info Glibc built with Unicode 8.0 support glibc-2.21.90-18.fc23 06:21:27 <pravins> regarding libicu 06:21:39 <pravins> ICU 56.1 release scheduled for 2015-10-07, Fedora 23 beta release 2015-09-22, final freeze 2015-10-13 06:22:09 <pravins> i talked with eike he said its bit risky to push it for Fedora 23. 06:22:20 <pravins> i think good to reduce scope of change proposal for now. 06:22:40 <pravins> rather than trying to rush till last stage, good to make it for Fedora 24. 06:23:51 <pravins> #info reducing scope of Unicode 8.0 proposal by removing libicu unicode 8.0 update for Fedora. 06:24:30 <pravins> #info Without libicu Unicode 8.0 change proposal is also 100% complete. 06:24:40 <pravins> last one 06:24:57 <pravins> Glibc locale subpackaging 06:24:59 <pravins> #link Glibc locale subpackaging 06:25:05 <pravins> #undo 06:25:05 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x34c43490> 06:25:15 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Glibc_locale_subpackaging 06:25:28 <pravins> mfabian: do you think we will able to make it for Fedora 23? 06:25:40 <mfabian> No, I’m afraid not. 06:25:50 <mfabian> I am not even sure how yet. 06:26:15 <mfabian> We need to decide first whether we really want binary packaging or generating like Debian/Ubuntu. 06:26:27 <pravins> I am not sure till what time we can wait to cancel this change proposal. 06:27:27 <pravins> Contingency deadline: Before F23 Beta release eg. Beta freeze. 06:28:05 <pravins> definitely this is not happening for Alpha. 06:29:09 <pravins> We have also drafted options for sub-packaging and there pros and cons on Wiki 06:29:11 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Locale_Subpackaging 06:29:49 <pravins> #info Glibc locale subpackaging change looks difficult to complete by Alpha Freeze. 06:31:37 <pravins> lets try to discuss on same after meeting. 06:31:50 <pravins> moving to next topic. 06:31:51 <pravins> #info #52: Fedora 23 Test day planning (pravins) 06:31:55 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/52 06:32:15 <pravins> I18n test day going to happen on 1st Sept. 06:32:42 <pravins> as we did last time, i think we should plan at least one day prior actual test day for working on test case improvement. 06:32:52 <Satya> yep 06:33:38 <pravins> Satya: do you have any idea about that? 06:33:50 <Satya> how would be next week, to seat on it? 06:35:03 <Satya> l10n first. then i18n. 06:35:06 <pravins> We have 2 test days, one for l10n and other for i18n/ 06:35:09 <Satya> yep 06:35:41 <pravins> next week looks good for l10n. I think we should drop an email to g11n list for this idea. 06:35:51 <pravins> so other l10n members can jump in for it. 06:36:25 <Satya> so, i18n can be done mid august 06:36:31 <pravins> looks good. 06:36:47 <pravins> i think lets plan date for i18n in next meeting. 06:37:18 <pravins> #info We are planning day before test day to work on improving test cases. L10n next week and i18n may be mid of Aug. 06:37:52 <pravins> With this we done with our agenda :) 06:37:59 <pravins> moving to last topic. 06:38:00 <pravins> #topic Open Floor 06:38:23 <pravins> Is there any new topics? 06:39:18 <pravins> Yesterday there was request from new member for interest to start contributing in Fedora i18n. 06:39:35 <pravins> I think we need dedicated page with open issue may be easy one, so new member can start looking into it. 06:40:10 <juhp> aha 06:40:52 <pravins> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/i18n/2015-July/001972.html 06:42:45 <pravins> We should work on this item sometime. Prepare page with easy fix and help new members to fix it. 06:42:54 <pravins> its good to get more members in G11N. 06:44:03 <pravins> if nothing more lets close meeting in next couple of minutes. 06:46:34 <pravins> thanks you all for meeting. 06:46:38 <pravins> #endmeeting